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I get your point but Pitt should be 10-2 with their own schedule. They could also be 6-6 with loses to GT and Clemson too. It's all in how the calls and execution play out.
 
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College football teams in general are weaker this year. Wouldn't shock me if they beat Wisconsin.

Another thing, PSU fans are all giddy because they didn't expect this winning til next year. Well what if next year doesn't go too well? I mean you'd think it should given their recruiting and they have a younger team, but the competition could get tougher as well. Who knows.
 
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runthewildcat said:
Penn state's opponents had a conference record of 12-34.
Pitt is 10-2 or 11-1 with their schedule no doubt.
They lose 4 maybe 5 with Pitts schedule.
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I could see Pitt at 10-2 with their schedule. However, I can't where PSU loses 4 or 5 games with our schedule. I think they would do no worse than 10-2 with our schedule.
 
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TD_6082 said:
I could see Pitt at 10-2 with their schedule. However, I can't where PSU loses 4 or 5 games with our schedule. I think they would do no worse than 10-2 with our schedule.
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-Well Penn State lost to Pitt, that's 1. Clemson would be favored heavily in death valley, that's 2. Road games against North Carolina, Miami, and Oklahoma State. And Virginia Tech who has beat two top 25 teams along with Georgia Tech who is 2-0 against the sec with a road win in Athens Georgia. It is 100% Fact Pitt has played 7 teams with at least 8 wins. No other team in the country is even close to saying that right now. And 4 of those were on the road. 7 games against top 35 teams in the computer rankings. I would bet my life savings Penn State, Ohio State, or Michigan would all, at minimum have at least 3 losses minimum, with Pitts.schedule.
 
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TD_6082 said:
I think they lose to Pitt and Clemson and win the rest.
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-Doubtful. The way the Big Ten has struggled this year. Ohio State beating Michigan State by 1 point. Penn State beating Temple by 7, a garbage Minnesota by 3. Michigan losing to Iowa and needing a come from behind win against Indiana.

-Oh, and lets not forget Oklahoma State, who has lost a total of 5 home games in the last 7 years.

-I already know you hate the Coastal. A division that has clowned other conferences this year. Pitt has wins over the ACC and Big Ten regular season champion, UNC over Florida State, Tech over 2 Top 25 teams, Gtech beating Georgia in Georgia and whipping Vandy. Even Syracuse and duke have a Top 25 win.
 
Why do yinz guys keep nibbling on TD's bait? He has Histrionic Personality Disorder and to gain your attention he will argue that the earth is flat.
 
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perchance said:
Why do yinz guys keep nibbling on TD's bait? He has Histrionic Personality Disorder and to gain your attention he will argue that the earth is flat.
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-I dont mind saying Penn State deserves the playoff with a Big Ten Title. I do have a problem with his ACC Coastal hate because its by far the most balanced division in college football. Every team in the entire division has at minimum 1 good win. And the entire division, unlike the Big Ten, has proven it can pick off and beat a Top 25 team, even Syracuse did it.
 
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The Coastal stinks. VaTech won the division and they aren't very good. I'm not the least bit impressed with UNC or Miami either.
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-Well thats your opinion.

-Minnesota has 1 win against a team with a winning record- Colorado State.

-The Entire Big Ten flat out sucks outside these 5 teams- Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Iowa, and Penn State. The rest suck

-Every other team in that league is a total cupcake this year, including Nebraska.

-Beat teams that have at least 8 wins and each of them has at least 1 legit victory.

-Beating Colorado State and thumping your chest about it is laughable in every word imaginable.
 
TD_6082 said:
Who do you think they would lose to?
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-Penn State would 100% be favored to lose in probably each of those road games except maybe Miami. They would 100% would be favored to lose to Oklahoma State, who lost a game this year on a phantom ref blunder. Had they not been cheated, Oklahoma State is ranked in your Top 5 Nationally right now. It has already been stated the loss would not effect their playoff chances as the game per the committee was thrown out the window.
 
What the hell was CMU even doing hanging around OKST that late in the game anyway? CMU is a 6-6 MAC team. What has OKST done this year?

I think PSU would beat OKST and beat them easily. The lost to Baylor and barely beat TxTech & Iowa State. Who have they beaten?

The truth is that OKST, more than anybody is a product of an easy schedule. It was a bad matchup for us simply because our pass defense is so gawd-awful PSU matches up much better with Okie State than we do.

And I disagree. I think PSU would be favored in each of those games.
 
TD_6082 said:
What the hell was CMU even doing hanging around OKST that late in the game anyway? CMU is a 6-6 MAC team. What has OKST done this year?

I think PSU would beat OKST and beat them easily. The lost to Baylor and barely beat TxTech & Iowa State. Who have they beaten?

The truth is that OKST, more than anybody is a product of an easy schedule. It was a bad matchup for us simply because our pass defense is so gawd-awful PSU matches up much better with Okie State than we do.

And I disagree. I think PSU would be favored in each of those games.
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-OK State has 5 wins over teams with a winning record, including 2 top 25 wins and they annihilated West Virginia. Penn State has only played 5 teams with a winning record for the entire season, and lost both of those games on The road. Thinking Penn state is some dominant road team is laughable. They have beat no one on the road.
 
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They are 10-2. Both losses on the road. One in a rivalry game against a quality opponent & one to a top 5 team.

PSU is much better than WVU and CMU isnt a road juggernaut either.

OK State was a game we should have won, and we would have with any kind of pass defense.
 
TD_6082 said:
They are 10-2. Both losses on the road. One in a rivalry game against a quality opponent & one to a top 5 team.

PSU is much better than WVU and CMU isnt a road juggernaut either.

OK State was a game we should have won, and we would have with any kind of pass defense.
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-So Penn State has beaten no one on the road, just like I said. Yet you think they are good enough to win 3 road games against teams that have at least 8 wins, 2 of which that are ranked in the top 20 in the country? All the while Penn State is 3-2 this year against teams with a winning record. But Penn State would be 6-2 according to you plus beating a team that has one of the best home fields in college football. Meanwhile Penn State is 0-2 against ranked teams on the road. And Oklahoma state beat Pitt. And Pitt beat Penn State. And Penn States best road win is against?
 
I think it is funny that many here talk about UNC, VT, and Miami as if they are some powerhouse teams. They stink. UNC lost to a terrible Georgia , nc State, and Duke. VT lost to Syracuse and was blown out by lousy Tennessee who just lost to Vandy. We blew a very good opportunity this year to win this shitty conference
 
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-So Penn State has beaten no one on the road, just like I said. Yet you think they are good enough to win 3 road games against teams that have at least 8 wins, 2 of which that are ranked in the top 20 in the country? All the while Penn State is 3-2 this year against teams with a winning record. But Penn State would be 6-2 according to you plus beating a team that has one of the best home fields in college football. Meanwhile Penn State is 0-2 against ranked teams on the road. And Oklahoma state beat Pitt. And Pitt beat Penn State. And Penn States best road win is against?
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First of all your facts are not correct. Penn state is actually 4-2 this year against teams with winning records, all of which have atleast 8 wins. Will now play a 7th in Wisconsin. Only five other teams in country will play 7 teams with 8 wins.

They also have the 14th rated SOS, Pitt 19th.

In the non-conference, they played a cupcake in Kent State, respectable 9 win temple team, and respectable 8 win pitt team. That is an above average OOC.

The big ten schedule fell well for them this year, but that isn't penn states fault. That schedule is in stone, not their fault MSU sucked this year. All they did is roll through it with one loss and win 6 of the 9 games in convincing fashion.
 
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Nittany1997 said:
PSU is a completely different team now than when they started the season.
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Don't know what some of these people are looking at but STATE is good and on its way back....

Down this recent stretch they are whacking teams some with ease.
They aren't a playoff team .....yet
But are headed in that direction.

They're playing for a major conference championship by going on a long winning streak which is not easy to do in CFB with a bunch of college kids.
Franklin, who is a bigmouth , deserves credit here. He's getting it done.
 
No doubt PSU and Pitt are better now. But, early in the season, when PSU wasn't a different team, they would've played Pitt(L) then Oklahoma State and UNC back to back to back.

Thinking they'd be 8-4 with Pitt's exact schedule. Much tougher road slate than PSU played this season. A very dangerous 8-4 though and a team on the rise... Like Pitt.
 
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I said this before but worth repeating- funny how PedSt suddenly got "better" when the B1G season started. The B1G this year is a house of cards built on a bunch of wins over the worst collection of teams among the P5.

Even Nebraska, Minnesota and Iowa are garbage this year but when you get to play teams like RU, MD, Ill, Ind, Purdue, even MSU- someone needs to win. Throw in that historically easy OOC scheduling of at least 2 bought wins- you have a house of cards that plays well in the media.

Put this into perspective. The B1G might not have an offensive skill player taken in the first 3 rounds of next year's NFL draft.

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PSU is a completely different team now than when they started the season.
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runthewildcat said:
Penn state's opponents had a conference record of 12-34.
Pitt is 10-2 or 11-1 with their schedule no doubt.
They lose 4 maybe 5 with Pitts schedule.
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And if Pitt could stop its opponents from putting up 50+ points a game, we may be a top 10 team like PSU, but we are not, so deal with it. Having a wet dream fantasizing about how PSU would have done with our schedule is speculative at best and disturbing. Are problems aren't how they would do, our problems are about how Pitt has done and will do, especially with our defense and kicking games.
 
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TD_6082 said:
The Coastal stinks. VaTech won the division and they aren't very good. I'm not the least bit impressed with UNC or Miami either.
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I'm not impressed with penn states wins over Maryland, Purdue, Indiana, Rutgers, or MSU either. Everyone is making a big deal about those wins, but every other team with a pulse has pounded them as well.
 
joeydavid said:
I said this before but worth repeating- funny how PedSt suddenly got "better" when the B1G season started. The B1G this year is a house of cards built on a bunch of wins over the worst collection of teams among the P5.

Even Nebraska, Minnesota and Iowa are garbage this year but when you get to play teams like RU, MD, Ill, Ind, Purdue, even MSU- someone needs to win. Throw in that historically easy OOC scheduling of at least 2 bought wins- you have a house of cards that plays well in the media.

Put this into perspective. The B1G might not have an offensive skill player taken in the first 3 rounds of next year's NFL draft.
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My point exactly. Well said.
 
You all realize how desperate and salty you look whining about PSU's schedule, right? They're ranked in the top 10. Pitt isn't. I'd trade places yesterday.
 
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Ski11585 said:
You all realize how desperate and salty you look whining about PSU's schedule, right? They're ranked in the top 10. Pitt isn't. I'd trade places yesterday.
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Sorry bro didn't realize that. That's for pointing that out! You've been a huge help!
 
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