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[Zeldas Open Roof]

Well if there is one thing above all that gives golf a bad name it’s the crotchety old men.

My biggest issue is slow play and as crazy as it sounds, it’s not usually the old men (or women) as much as the younger and middle aged novices that DONT have common courtesy. Let me explain.

older men and women know they aren't long hitters so they aren't waiting for the green to clear when they are 230 out, thinking they can hit a 3 wood and stick the green because they did it once 5 years ago. it's the younger (by younger, i mean everyone under 60). that's what holds up play.

Also, older men for the most part play "Ready golf." i call it ready golf. they all go to their individual balls and hit when they are ready. they all don't wait for each other, admire each other's shots, THEN go to their balls and hits. You see this on the green with clowns. they all stand on the fringe in a huddle and the person furthest away, goes, lines up, then putts. THEN and only then, the next person goes and repeats. This process is painstakingly slow and makes what should be a 3 hour round of golf, a 5 hour round of golf. everyone should go to their own ball, practice swing and as soon as the person furthest hits, the next person should be ready 30 seconds later.

IMO, the old guys seem to have some common sense here and it's us (you guys, not me) that screws up the pace of play. That is what ruins golf on a public course, not old men drinking a draft beer in the clubhouse after, complaining about the good ol days. i can avoid that, i cant avoid the clown with a 400 dollar driver, waiting for the green to clear before he hits because he thinks he can drive the green on a par 4, 320 yard hole.

 

[thebadby2]

You really think taking their means of gainful employment away is helping them more? Yes, let’s take away everyone’s job for months and months and give them 1200 bucks as a thank you.

im sure they prefer that over a job.

It’s not about what they prefer. It’s about abating the worst public health crisis in our lifetimes. Everyone is feeling the pinch, some far worse than others, and nobody is OK with that. But the alternative is a lot more sickness and death.

there’s a reason that every single public health official, epidemiologist and disease specialist in the world agree that these stay at home orders are necessary to protect the population from this. Even our science-hating, reality-denying, profit above all else president is pushing stay at home.

But hey, you’re right-screw these fun-haters. it’s far more important for golfers to get their April loops in.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

It’s not about what they prefer. It’s about abating the worst public health crisis in our lifetimes. Everyone is feeling the pinch, some far worse than others, and nobody is OK with that. But the alternative is a lot more sickness and death.

there’s a reason that every single public health official, epidemiologist and disease specialist in the world agree that these stay at home orders are necessary to protect the population from this. Even our science-hating, reality-denying, profit above all else president is pushing stay at home.

But hey, you’re right-screw these fun-haters. it’s far more important for golfers to get their April loops in.

Ok ok, we are having a civil conversation here. I am not saying that we should force people from their homes and risk their safety so I can golf. I’m saying that it’s very possible to allow courses to open and have public safety as a priority. That’s all.

It is a suggestion, no one is crying about our rights being infringed upon. It’s golf, nothing more.

 

[DT_PITT]

I enjoy golf , even though I’m not very good .
But the whining and hand wringing over this is silly

It would seem that at this moment in time, there are much greater crusades or bigger hills to die on.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

It would seem that at this moment in time, there are much greater crusades or bigger hills to die on.

I mean - for plenty - I’m sure it’s a mission of mercy to give their families a 6 hour reprieve of their company .

 

[DT_PITT]

I mean - for plenty - I’m sure it’s a mission of mercy to give their families a 6 hour reprieve of their company .

If anything ... PLEASE open hair salons and barbershops!! I'm three weeks past a much needed haircut and one look at me now is life-threatening!

 

[pittdan77]

Be aware that you can get Lyme disease without ever seeing the bullseye tick bite.

Yeah, I did a FaceTime call with my UPMC app that night and got a prescription for doxycycline.

 

[Las Panteras]

The confluence of spring weather coupled with stay at home orders suggest that going golfing as soon as the order is lifted will be a 5 1/2 hour marathon from hell.

I like to play, but if it's more than 4 hours I'm washing the car.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

I mean - for plenty - I’m sure it’s a mission of mercy to give their families a 6 hour reprieve of their company .

Lol. That’s good.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

My brother is a 7 handicap. He and his friends pin hunt. As they say you'll never be a single digit handicap unless you can hit pins. But the rest of their games is also real good.

I'm a 14-15 handicap. My brother and his friends say one way to stay in that range consistently is to hit your approach shots to the middle or solidly on the green since the pin will be close, work on the putting and easy chip shots since those shots are easier to improve than tricky uphill/downhill shots out of rough around the green.

They watch 14's for example go for a pin on the edge of an elevated green, the ball bounces off the green into rough or maybe sand, they are now laying two shooting three out of high rough or sand uphill to a downhill pin location and will probably get a six.

Had they hit the ball somewhere on the green for their second two easy putts for a par -worst case five or maybe an easy chip shot and a putt.

Smart golf!

Hey Pittfamily2, ironically just read this article and it included aiming at the pin. Mark Lehman says if you want to break 80, always aim for middle of the green and never at the pin. Interestingly.

quite frankly, I know I am never breaking 80, aiming at pin or not but thought it was quite relevant to our discussion.

https://www.golf.com/instruction/dr...uzNhehC-1CHRhW_dDz9TSwR750Hrf8oFgQedq9g6f4tK4

 

[Las Panteras]

Well if there is one thing above all that gives golf a bad name it’s the crotchety old men.

My biggest complaint about golf at our level is the loud obnoxious A holes that start the minute they arrive in the parking lot and can be heard anywhere on the course.

It's nice weather, your'e outside, away from rush hour traffic,

Why ruin it by being so effin loud?

 

[FireballZ]

Generation Z, and no they probably won't be a golfing generation. I on the
other hand am a golfer as are many of my friends. It's a dying game though.
It takes time and it's not for the instant gratification younger set.

I think for golf to begin to resonate more with the younger generation, it'll need to become faster, with more tech incorporated. For example, imagine if they setup devices behind the tee boxes that record your shots and add the shot-tracker line to your ball that you can watch from the cart screen or share with your friends via an app. Stuff like that.

 

[FireballZ]

You bite your tongue.


I am curious though about younger people. Not the millennials but the next one, whatever we call them. People in that 15-20 age group. I’m curious if they golf as much as we did at that age.

I'd advise not letting a person that spends 95% of their waking hours on the internet advise you on cool or trendy.

In NC, I see tons of youths on the driving range and taking group lessons, but it's a bit of a different culture down here.