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Talking about previous 4 *recruits. Whatever happen to

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The 4 star that amazed me was Christian Cullen.
We wiffed on him when he went to Michigan.
Posters on the Lair were jumping out 1st floor ( no big risk takers here) windows as a result of the miss.
We get him back 2 yrs later and he hardly got on the field??
Amazing!
 
Well, stars matter and all... but sometimes sites like this rate stars based on who is rating, what team that guy likes, and what teams a prospect likes. I mean a 3 star guy could easily be 4 stars and such, there isnt any mathematics behind it.
 
Well, stars matter and all... but sometimes sites like this rate stars based on who is rating, what team that guy likes, and what teams a prospect likes. I mean a 3 star guy could easily be 4 stars and such, there isnt any mathematics behind it.
There has to be some way to rate players but what confuses me is how anyone can compare a kid from lets say a school in NJ and a kid from TX or FL.
A few years ago I followed a NJ 4 star kid from a medium sized HS who was huge and crushed everyone in a bad to medicore football conference. He didn't fair well at the college level. I followed him since we had relative kids who played in another better NJ conference and mentioned he was over rated and he was! There were probably plenty FL or TX 2 or 3 stars better than that NJ kid.
I guess it takes a lot of work from U coaches to work through the details.
 
The 4 star that amazed me was Christian Cullen.
We wiffed on him when he went to Michigan.
Posters on the Lair were jumping out 1st floor ( no big risk takers here) windows as a result of the miss.
We get him back 2 yrs later and he hardly got on the field??
Amazing!

Like I say, stars matter....until the kids actually get to school. Then after that....the slate is clear. What I mean here, is just because a Christian or Shayne Hale were 4 star talents out of HS, doesn't make them 4 star talents 3 years later in college. They just were overrated. Misses. It happens and it is not the kids fault in most cases. Some guys (Hale for instance) peak at 16 years old. He was a beast, a monster. Just everyone caught up to him and then passed.
 
The 4 star that amazed me was Christian Cullen.
We wiffed on him when he went to Michigan.
Posters on the Lair were jumping out 1st floor ( no big risk takers here) windows as a result of the miss.
We get him back 2 yrs later and he hardly got on the field??
Amazing!

I thought Cullen was a three star recruit. Wasn't there another kid on his hs team that was pretty highly rated?
 
Sometimes highly rated players go to top programs and after the first practice come to the reality that every player at their position is highly rated and every player coming after them is highly rated. Why does a 4 star player go somewhere where there are 3- 4 stars ahead of them and they came in with another 4 star and the program has commitments from 2 more the following year.
 
It's. A. Racket.

I don't know about a racket. But pro teams miss on draft picks. And there is a helluva lot more science, research and effort goes into in slotting and ranking draft eligible players who are much closer to the actual formed product.

And they miss a lot. What cannot be denied is the top teams tend to be the top ranked recruiting teams. But this is mostly cumulative, year after year. Because you can go 1 for 4 in hitting on a 4-5 star kid being truly a great player because you have 3-5 of them at every position.
 
It's. A. Racket.

It's a huge racket.

If you want stars, you have to show up at the service's camps. Kids are encouraged to go, even after committing, to keep their ratings up since fan bases love to brag about recruiting and coaches seem to get a lot of mileage out of it. In truth, the stars mean nothing. A three star from the middle of nowhere, small school playing against zero competition, can't be compared to the three star from the big city that plays against all kinds of college level talent. Things like size, fit, work ethic, attitude, probably matter just as much as anything else.

A previous poster hit the nail on the head; once they get to school, the slate is wiped clean.
 
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