The football schedule says to me that
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My oversimplified view is that Pitt will beat Delaware and Ohio, and split the other 10, leading to a 7-5 record
FWIW, going 3-1 Ooc and repeating the 6-2 conference mark would produce a 9-3 record
FWIW, going 3-1 Ooc and repeating the 6-2 conference mark would produce a 9-3 record
What are you babbling about??
Anyone with two eyes can see he has all the tools... dont @ me again with your garbage.
All the tools for what?
Can he look off of a primary wr?
Can he throw a 15 yard out or slant?
Can he stand in the pocket and make reads?
He's tough and isn't scared to take a hit while running. Other than that, i've seen him perform against wake. Other than that, his play is well below the line and doesn't show me any tools.
Wake up and see reality. Just because it says Pitt on his jersey and he talks a good game doesn't mean he can do jack shit between the lines.
I think people are being overly harsh on Pickett. Clearly he wasn't a QB savior, but I don't think he's a stiff either. I think most would agree that Watson didn't help, so I at least have some hope that he's likely to improve with Whipple and the experience he's gained so far.
He just finished his sophomore year. Give the kid a chance.
He just finished his sophomore year. Give the kid a chance.
Pocket collapses on pickett, rather than step up and throw it he tries to run for a first down and we end up punting
Pocket collapses, Pickett is flushed out, WRs cant get open. Rather than throw it to the waterboy he tries to force it or worse.....starts running and again we end up punting.
One would have to be a fool to think Watson did not spend an entire season screaming at Pickett to step up and throw it or throw it away.
But KP is programmed to panic and that isn't changing.
It's very similar to a golfer taking lessons......understanding that you have to come from the inside to hit it straight.....
And then on the first tee comes over the top as always....
And bananas one into the woods on the right.
I would also add that last year was Pickett and no one else. We weren't burning patti and george was not the answer.
A new OC will teach Pickett the same stuff Watson did with the same result. His panic under pressure cant be fixed.
Those of you that want to be his agent better brace yourselves.
Pickett will not be our QB come November.
Pocket collapses, Pickett is flushed out, WRs cant get open. Rather than throw it to the waterboy he tries to force it or worse.....starts running and again we end up punting.
One would have to be a fool to think Watson did not spend an entire season screaming at Pickett to step up and throw it or throw it away.
But KP is programmed to panic and that isn't changing.
It's very similar to a golfer taking lessons......understanding that you have to come from the inside to hit it straight.....
And then on the first tee comes over the top as always....
And bananas one into the woods on the right.
I would also add that last year was Pickett and no one else. We weren't burning patti and george was not the answer.
A new OC will teach Pickett the same stuff Watson did with the same result. His panic under pressure cant be fixed.
Those of you that want to be his agent better brace yourselves.
Pickett will not be our QB come November.
Amusing observation, thinking about it a little further
I would lean towards Pitt beating Virginia and Georgia Tech, while would lean towards them losing to Ucf and Psu.
History suggests that Pitt will beat Duke, but lose to Unc
So it looks like the difference between 5-7 and 9-3 will be based on how Pitt fares against Miami, Virginia Tech, Syracuse, and Boston College
I.e. the old Big East schools
I would lean towards Pitt beating Virginia and Georgia Tech, while would lean towards them losing to Ucf and Psu.
History suggests that Pitt will beat Duke, but lose to Unc
So it looks like the difference between 5-7 and 9-3 will be based on how Pitt fares against Miami, Virginia Tech, Syracuse, and Boston College
I.e. the old Big East schools
I see a kid that understood the basics...in that...against teams that did what they were supposed to do, he did well. Example, Wake played the run...leaving a lot out there for the passing game. Most of the time, Pickett could go with first read. Ditto in the Bowl Game when they ran the read-option. Read one guy, hold the ball or hand it off. Looked good. But once the defense adjusted, that's when it fell apart. Either he couldn't adapt as well on the field or Watson didn't do a good job of explaining it.
When the season was on the line, so to speak, they went with the power run game and took the ball out of Pickett's hands. Second halves of Syracuse and UVa relied heavily on the run (tho, if it wasn't broke, don't fix it). And we just demolished VT. Late in the Bowl Game, they turned it over to him with the usual results.
Yes, he can still 'get it' and it should help a lot that the OC is a QB teacher. But I doubt that Duzz/Whipple give him the whole year like this past year. A QB needs poise in the Whipple O...gotta wait and hit those crossing routes. There are going to be a lot of plays where Carter and Shockey get a short throw in space and those are going to have to be delivered on time and on target.
So you're telling me that anyone who thinks Kenny will be a successful QB here at Pitt is a just shameless homer??
Lol Sure thing "BigBird80"... i already know i won't be seeing this account on the message board at all this fall.
Yes Bigbird... and everyone else who has faith in Kenny is just a "shameless homer"... lol gtfo
Lol another message board troll account that will mysteriously go silent this fall...
Mark THAT down dude.
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Everyone hates 8 yards passing, and I hated Watson as much as anyone...
If the coaching staff (Narduzzi) didn't have faith in Kenny they would be looking to bring in a transfer... they aren't, and they wont.
I guess the coaches are blatant Pitt homers too since they seem to think Kenny will get the job done?
I've been called the most negative poster on the board by @Zeldas Open Roof and now a blatant Pitt homer by this BigBird clown... lmaoooo. Too funny.
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did I say that? Sorry man, I think you are a good poster dude, you entertain me. I say that in all sincerity..
I like the optimism towards Pickett from you. I don't share it but trust me, I PRAY you are right.. hoping a new OC is the difference..
Posters on this board who say things like "It was 100% the OC" and are ready to walk into the 2019 season with 0 concern about the qb position, when 13/15 performances have been below the line are shameless homers.
Yup. Again if you watch his HS film he displays the same tendency to bail out of the pocket at even the slightest sign of pressure. Against Wake, he had very good protection and as someone else pointed out was able to find his first option every time. Its just not realistic to expect every play to be well protected and be able to allow the QB to throw to the primary receiver.
Now can a QB over time improve on pocket composure....sure..........but over the course of the season we so ZERO....improvement in that area from KP. He stares down receivers and often times for whatever reason bails to his left........
The other thing that was disappointing about KP was that he was very inconsistent in the area of accuracy. Far too many times his passes were way off. I thought that was his strength and we didnt see that.
Also as you noted, Patti didnt arrive until the fall. NO way was Duz and company going to let a true frosh who had not yet grasped the play book compete for time.
I do think there will be an open competition this spring. If KP wins it, I'll be concerned that the offense wont be much better. I just dont think KP has what it takes to win at this level unless the OL is dominant in pass blocking...........which is unlikely
Look, Narduzzi has a huge stake in this so he can't afford to get this wrong. He canned the OC and the WR coach. The passing, and the overall offense better improve. If it doesn't, I'd have to guess another 7 win season is a guarantee and that can't be good news for Narduzzi's career so he'd be wise to open up the QB competition and make sure the best guy is under center against UVA.
Watson sucks... it was a bad hire from the start.
I have 100% confidence Pickett will figure things out under whipple, who is a much better OC.
And no, im not a shameless homer, i have been very critical of Pitt when its warranted, you can ask anyone on this board.
Then that's fine and it means they developed someone better. But Pickett's going to be the starter come late August. He's nowhere near bad enough that a greenhorn is going to beat him out.
Ill rephrase...
If Pickett wins the job i have no doubts he will perform well... if another QB beats him out, i expect he will perform well. I expect the QB position to be efficient and effective when needed.
I have faith in Mark Whipple putting together an effective offense that scores 30+ ppg.
That being said i fully expect Pickett to win the job because he is the best we have by a ton...
If Pickett wins the job i have no doubts he will perform well... if another QB beats him out, i expect he will perform well. I expect the QB position to be efficient and effective when needed.
I have faith in Mark Whipple putting together an effective offense that scores 30+ ppg.
That being said i fully expect Pickett to win the job because he is the best we have by a ton...
Pitt has "run the table" exactly twice in the last 100 years. 1917 and 1976 (not counting ties).
So yeah, this schedule SCREAMS running the table, coming off a 7-7 year.
This prediction SCREAMS, "Pass the crack pipe!"
So yeah, this schedule SCREAMS running the table, coming off a 7-7 year.
This prediction SCREAMS, "Pass the crack pipe!"
I guess we watched different games because PIcket was NOT good at all.........not even close. I guess we'll see what transpires over the course of the spring and summer. Beville I think is enrolled and will be part of the competition as well. If he can grasp the offense I think he has the biggest upside of the three kids who were recruited.......IMO George has no shot.....
Quite honestly, I dont see the "talent" that people claim PIcket has.....hes not that accurate, he has zero pocket presence, doesnt look off receivers, cannot see the field and find second and third options........hes a plus athlete at QB but not a significant factor in having to defend his ability to run.....He does seem to have a strong enough arm but IMO the things he doesnt possess are pretty darn important. As I said go back and look at his HS highlights, Patti's and Bevilles and you'll see a huge difference in the three QBs in those areas. IMO Picket has always played a "frenetic" style of QB where he flushes easily......the other two are much more composed in the pocket. Patti has a very quick compact release....Beville is the tallest and sees the field well as a result.........Of course the transition from HS is huge so who knows if the other two can do it at this level.
Cognitive dissonance. Pitt fans were so desperate for a QB after the DiNucci debacle that they went all in on Pickett after Miami 2017. I read comparisons to Palko and even Marino here. Nobody likes to admit that they were wrong, especially after they forked over the money for a #8 throwback jersey in anticipation of Pickett's pending glory.
Stull was the opposite, having followed fan favorite Palko, he always had to prove himself against that standard.
Perfect
Except one thing....it’s not a pipe it’s the bottle.
Fell Off the wagon, bet dat.
But thought he had croaked, so that’s a good thing.
I hope you are right...I would love him to have a new OC year like Tino w/ Paul Chryst
Just because i like to ask questions like this.
Tino has a bad year....Graham screwed him
Tino has a good year....Chryst saved him
Pickett has a bad year....Watson stinks
Pickett has a good year (fingers crossed)....Whipple ran magic on him.
If it's all coaching, does it matter who you recruit at QB? Blame/praise needs shared imo.
I'm not disagreeing with anything you are saying just saying it was good QB play and if we get that next year I think we can be tough
My bad. I didn't want it to sound like I was disagreeing with you or anything, just looking at things from a different angle.
Football is the ultimate team game. It will truly take adjustments and improvements by all 11 + coaches to have great results on offense. Next year, like all years, will be fun.
