The Herm is it at ASU

[RaleighPittFan]

"Herm Edwards reportedly lands Arizona State job
By Zach BarnettNov 29, 2017, 7:43 PM EST


On Tuesday it was reported that Herm Edwards — yes, that Herm Edwards — was in the running for the Arizona State job.

On Wednesday it was reported he got the job.

Two Arizona State outlets reported that Edwards will indeed be the head coach of the Sun Devils, with one outlet reporting it has been done “for days.”

BREAKING: Herm Edwards is expected to be Arizona State’s next football coach pending approval of University President Dr. Michael Crow https://t.co/tZAfzu1Rs1

— SunDevilSource.com (@SunDevilSource) November 29, 2017

Confirmed earlier reports that pending approval of ASU President Dr. Michael Crow, Herm Edwards will be hired as ASU's next football coach. Deal has been done for days. Edwards will keep current staff.

— DevilsDigest.com (@DevilsDigest) November 30, 2017

There’s no way to slice it: this is an odd move. Edwards has not coached since 2008 and has not coached in college in the lifetime of any current college player.

Edwards gave a radio interview Wednesday morning arguing he was the right man for the job. He also confirmed he would keep Todd Graham‘s staff in place, as AD Ray Anderson preferred.

Herm Edwards cites the fact he has to travel 6,000 miles a week to come to work on ESPN as why he’s up to the rigors of being a college head coach. I mean…

— Dan Wolken (@DanWolken) November 29, 2017

Herm on coming in with a ready-made staff at ASU: “I don’t know if they’re Todd Graham’s guys. They’re football guys. Coaches belong to football.”

— Dan Wolken (@DanWolken) November 29, 2017

According to the report from Sun Devil Source, the hiring will not be officially official under Edwards can earn the blessing of Dr. Michael Crow, which cannot happen until this weekend when the Arizona State president returns from a global education summit in China.

Edwards has worked at ESPN since leaving the Kansas City Chiefs after the ’08 season, and in recent years built a brand traveling the country as a motivational speaker. It was part of that work that got him the job, according to Sun Devil Source:

In consideration of Edwards’ candidacy for the job, Anderson was bolstered in part, according to a source, by the way in which Edwards impressed Alabama coach Nick Saban in annual talks he’s given to players at the school in recent years. Edwards has always participated as a coach of the Under Armour All-American Game in recent years, where he’s interacted with many of the nation’s top recruits.

Offensive coordinator Billy Napier, himself a former Nick Saban disciple, is expected to stay on and have a major hand in running the day-to-day aspects of the program, with Edwards taking more of a CEO role.

Arizona State went 7-5 this season and will play in a bowl game next month, to be determined on Sunday. The Sun Devils went 46-31 in the 6-year Graham era."



http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/11/29/herm-edwards-reportedly-lands-arizona-state-job/

 

[Ski11585]

What a terrible decision.

 

[DiehardPanther]

I will have my popcorn ready when they have a game, and he gets interviewed. We can add onto his Hermisms.

 

[HailtoPitt]

I wonder if they will play to win the game.

 

[mbe 34]

What a terrible decision.

Sort of shocking.
Guy’s never been a college head coach?
He’s in his 60s?

Will he finish his first year?

 

[BradlyPitt]

I wonder if they will play to win the game.

this is why this is a bad hire, this quote was the only memorable part of his coaching career

 

[WiseAndGlorious]

I don’t see how this could go wrong:

Herm on coming in with a ready-made staff at ASU: “I don’t know if they’re Todd Graham’s guys. They’re football guys. Coaches belong to football.“

 

[RaleighPittFan]

Back in the day....before these outrageous salaries....a former coach with his resume, making a decent living on TV as a "announcer" or "talking head of some sort", wouldn't think twice about getting back into coaching a college team. He'd be making less than he could as a coach, but not millions less.

Now, how does one turn down the kind of coin a coach like him would be able to make these days?

I wouldn't be surprised to see more guys who one would never think of coaching again, get back into it.

 

[Franb]

I don’t see how this could go wrong:

Herm on coming in with a ready-made staff at ASU: “I don’t know if they’re Todd Graham’s guys. They’re football guys. Coaches belong to football.“

Since the University president hasn't signed off yet, it is not too late for students, etc. to begin a protest to stop this hiring.

Power to the people!

 

[BradlyPitt]

Since the University president hasn't signed off yet, it is not too late for students, etc. to begin a protest to stop this hiring.

Power to the people!

that would be construed as "racism"

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

That hiring has "disaster" written all over it.

 

[Gunga_Galunga]

That hiring has "disaster" written all over it.

Yep, disastrous immediately came to mind.

 

[BFo8]

This type of thing rarely works. The one exception (sort of) that I can think of is Bob Davie at New Mexico.

Of course he did at least have some college coaching experience, can’t really think of anything else comparable.

 

[18Melba]

Pay 12 million buyout to get rid of a guy but keep the rest of the staff for a guy that has been out of coaching 10 years and college ball since the 80s. Wow. That is all I can say.

 

[Mikefln]

Guys it is stuff like this that makes me glad Pitt has Narduzzi and I hope he stays. This is the stuff Pitt would pull and say with a straight face "What we got you a big name for coach!"

I like Herm, he seems like a good man, but first he is an NFL guy, college is a different animal altogether. 2nd he hasn't had skin in the game for way to long. ASU would have been better keeping Fraud.

 

[RHS14]

I would take Larry Fitzgerald as Head Coach the moment he retires from the NFL and be Over-The-Moon.

Darrelle Revis, the moment he retires if he wants to come be Defensive Coordinator and learn on the job --- I'll be over-the-moon and so happy.

Aaron Donald too can be head coach the moment he retires from the NFL if he wants --- he along with Fitzgerald, and Revis can all 3 wear their Gold NFL Hall of Fame Jackets on the sideline for Pitt and I'll be so happy (lookin' like they won the MASTERS lol ) .

In the End ---- Football at Universities is about Competition, FUN, Excitement and Energy...... no need to try and Red-Tape Up College Football just have fun and Let 'R Rip lol.

Hail to Pitt

 

[gourdnibbler]

Kids will love him because he is on ESPN all the time. That gives him more credibility than he deserves.
ESPN will love it because they are losing money and probably can't afford to keep him.

 

[BuffetParrothead]

That hiring has "disaster" written all over it.

And we Pitt fans are advanced experts in the detection and reporting of said "disaster" football and basketball coach hires!

We wrote the book on this!

 

[H2P_61]

I can't see this turning out well. He hasn't coached since 2008/2009, though some people want Gruden to go back to coaching and he has been out of it since 2008/2009 as well.

 

[Las Panteras]

I am reminded of those ASU fans that came over here gloating when Fraud was named their HC

Having your Coach sh×tcanned....and then hiring this guy......while we take out #2 Miami

I would say we had the last laugh
.....

 

[paulbl99]

Find it intriguing actually

Apparently he’s a great motivational speaker; let’s say he sets the standard for attitude and discipline and coaches the coaches.

The rest is entirely on the Coordinators....

Kinda what I thought Wanny would do but instead he was set on doing everything”me and Jimmy” did at the U.

 

[BuffetParrothead]

Toddy has built up a small fortune since he and Penny left Tulsa.
He's a "carpet bagger " of the first order and I'm sure he'll end up somewhere making millions again!

 

[upj87]

That hiring has "disaster" written all over it.

Why? Seems like the kind of guy that could motivate kids and the kind of guy that would play well in recruit's living rooms. I hope he does well as I like the dude.

 

[Gunga_Galunga]

Why? Seems like the kind of guy that could motivate kids and the kind of guy that would play well in recruit's living rooms. I hope he does well as I like the dude.

Why? Because he's 54-74 as a head coach and hasn't been in the college game for 30 years. Final year with the Jets 4-12, final year with KC 2-14. This won't end well for that diploma factory.

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

There has to be more to it. Graham wasn't doing that bad at ASU to be canned in order to bring in this guy. Supposedly the AD was a former NFL agent who had Edwards as a client. And maybe Graham rubbed the AD the wrong way. Very strange situation but it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy

 

[upj87]

Why? Because he's 54-74 as a head coach and hasn't been in the college game for 30 years. Final year with the Jets 4-12, final year with KC 2-14. This won't end well for that diploma factory.

yeah, and mighty Chip Kelly finished his NFL stint at 2-14 and folks were beating down his door to come back to college. I seem to remember Nick Saban tearing it up in the NFL also. Past NFL performance is not a good indicator of college success.

No, the 'why' comes from no way in hell anyone knows if he can do the job or not...I'd rather send a stud linebacker son to play for Herm Edwards than Todd Graham any day of the week.. How bout you?

 

[cupkafan]

The guy is almost as old as NTOP. he belongs with the other octogenarians on the Porch paying homage to Jamie.

 

[DiehardPanther]

yeah, and mighty Chip Kelly finished his NFL stint at 2-14 and folks were beating down his door to come back to college. I seem to remember Nick Saban tearing it up in the NFL also. Past NFL performance is not a good indicator of college success.

No, the 'why' comes from no way in hell anyone knows if he can do the job or not...I'd rather send a stud linebacker son to play for Herm Edwards than Todd Graham any day of the week.. How bout you?

Chip Kelly and Nick Saban were proven winners at the college level. There is no comparison. Your argument went way off the reservation.

 

[JohnnyGossamer]

yeah, and mighty Chip Kelly finished his NFL stint at 2-14 and folks were beating down his door to come back to college. I seem to remember Nick Saban tearing it up in the NFL also. Past NFL performance is not a good indicator of college success.

No, the 'why' comes from no way in hell anyone knows if he can do the job or not...I'd rather send a stud linebacker son to play for Herm Edwards than Todd Graham any day of the week.. How bout you?

Chip Kelly and Nick Saban were elite college coaches before giving the NFL a try.

 

[upj87]

Chip Kelly and Nick Saban were proven winners at the college level. There is no comparison. Your argument went way off the reservation.

no, my argument was NFL win/loss has proven to be no indication of college success one way or another(as Gungala did) so it is not really a meaningful metric..case in point Kelly and Saban, college studs, NFL duds. As a Native American I am offended by you culturally appropriated insensitive remark at the end of your sentence and would appreciate an apology.

 

[rmf05]

Wow. This reminds me of when Montour named Dick Butkus as its coach. You could see that train wreck coming from miles away.

 

[wbrpanther]

What a terrible decision.

and you know this...HOW? Unexpected and very surprising..yes. Terrible? That remains to be seen.

 

[FIVE4PITT]

Although i'm glad todd graham is gone from ASU this hire does not make sense. He better hope the staff wants to coach with him.

 

[President Stache]

"Herm Edwards reportedly lands Arizona State job
By Zach BarnettNov 29, 2017, 7:43 PM EST


On Tuesday it was reported that Herm Edwards — yes, that Herm Edwards — was in the running for the Arizona State job.

On Wednesday it was reported he got the job.

Two Arizona State outlets reported that Edwards will indeed be the head coach of the Sun Devils, with one outlet reporting it has been done “for days.”

BREAKING: Herm Edwards is expected to be Arizona State’s next football coach pending approval of University President Dr. Michael Crow https://t.co/tZAfzu1Rs1

— SunDevilSource.com (@SunDevilSource) November 29, 2017

Confirmed earlier reports that pending approval of ASU President Dr. Michael Crow, Herm Edwards will be hired as ASU's next football coach. Deal has been done for days. Edwards will keep current staff.

— DevilsDigest.com (@DevilsDigest) November 30, 2017

There’s no way to slice it: this is an odd move. Edwards has not coached since 2008 and has not coached in college in the lifetime of any current college player.

Edwards gave a radio interview Wednesday morning arguing he was the right man for the job. He also confirmed he would keep Todd Graham‘s staff in place, as AD Ray Anderson preferred.

Herm Edwards cites the fact he has to travel 6,000 miles a week to come to work on ESPN as why he’s up to the rigors of being a college head coach. I mean…

— Dan Wolken (@DanWolken) November 29, 2017

Herm on coming in with a ready-made staff at ASU: “I don’t know if they’re Todd Graham’s guys. They’re football guys. Coaches belong to football.”

— Dan Wolken (@DanWolken) November 29, 2017

According to the report from Sun Devil Source, the hiring will not be officially official under Edwards can earn the blessing of Dr. Michael Crow, which cannot happen until this weekend when the Arizona State president returns from a global education summit in China.

Edwards has worked at ESPN since leaving the Kansas City Chiefs after the ’08 season, and in recent years built a brand traveling the country as a motivational speaker. It was part of that work that got him the job, according to Sun Devil Source:

In consideration of Edwards’ candidacy for the job, Anderson was bolstered in part, according to a source, by the way in which Edwards impressed Alabama coach Nick Saban in annual talks he’s given to players at the school in recent years. Edwards has always participated as a coach of the Under Armour All-American Game in recent years, where he’s interacted with many of the nation’s top recruits.

Offensive coordinator Billy Napier, himself a former Nick Saban disciple, is expected to stay on and have a major hand in running the day-to-day aspects of the program, with Edwards taking more of a CEO role.

Arizona State went 7-5 this season and will play in a bowl game next month, to be determined on Sunday. The Sun Devils went 46-31 in the 6-year Graham era."



http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/11/29/herm-edwards-reportedly-lands-arizona-state-job/

This is like Majors II without the prior success.

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

What a bizarre hire.

Graham was regressing there, but they could have saved like 5 million bucks if they just waited another year and hired someone else. If they really do keep the coordinators, Edwards is going to be a $12 million in the first year total investment to replace Todd Graham at press conferences. Now the man is good at press conferences, but that seems like a step price for a middling program already with debt problems from stadium renovations.

 

[Gunga_Galunga]

yeah, and mighty Chip Kelly finished his NFL stint at 2-14 and folks were beating down his door to come back to college. I seem to remember Nick Saban tearing it up in the NFL also. Past NFL performance is not a good indicator of college success.

No, the 'why' comes from no way in hell anyone knows if he can do the job or not...I'd rather send a stud linebacker son to play for Herm Edwards than Todd Graham any day of the week.. How bout you?

Chip Kelly was a highly successful college coach who had a cup of coffee in the NFL. Same goes for Nick Saban. They are in no way comparable to Herm Edwards. Actually, they couldn't be more different.

 

[Gunga_Galunga]

no, my argument was NFL win/loss has proven to be no indication of college success one way or another(as Gungala did) so it is not really a meaningful metric..case in point Kelly and Saban, college studs, NFL duds. As a Native American I am offended by you culturally appropriated insensitive remark at the end of your sentence and would appreciate an apology.

My argument was this guy sucked as a head coach and has no college experience. Not sure how you misinterpreted that, or what you're trying to turn it into.

 

[vegasgreed]

So, the former agent hired his former client. Then he's going to jam the DC & OC down Herm's throat. That AD there is a goofball. He thinks the HC did a bad job but thinks the OC and DC did a good job. Interesting.

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

Phil Bennett defensive coordinator, forever 1.000 all time as a Pitt head coach.

 

[Jpripper88]

no, my argument was NFL win/loss has proven to be no indication of college success one way or another(as Gungala did) so it is not really a meaningful metric..case in point Kelly and Saban, college studs, NFL duds. As a Native American I am offended by you culturally appropriated insensitive remark at the end of your sentence and would appreciate an apology.

Well, and Saban wasn't even necessarily an "NFL dud". He only coached 2 years with the Dolphins. He went 15-17 in two years after Dave Wannstedt went 4-12 in 2004. If they had signed Drew Brees, instead of Dante Cullpepper, like Saban and the Front Office wanted, he probably never comes back to college and is a very successful NFL coach.

But obviously it was still a ridiculous suggestion that there was any parallel. Edwards doesn't have the NCAA success (or even experience) to point to AND was not a very good NFL HC.