-Again, which camp was it recorded at? Because without telling me a camp name, its worthless.
Thomas Macvittie, QB
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-Again, which camp was it recorded at? Because without telling me a camp name, its worthless.
-Whitehead's shuttle time is so Elite and NFL caliber that is what sets him apart. The same with Damar Hamlin, who has a 4.11 and 4.09 shuttle standing at 6'1. The shuttle is valued heavily for DB's.
Disagree. If he truly runs a 4.5 our offense woulld be unstoppable. We literally would have Mariota with a great OL, awesome blocking back in Aston, and great stable of running backs.
If Mac runs a 4.75 we have a QB that will scramble for some yards, and maybe have a few designed runs, but he will need to be a much better passer and it will be critical to upgrade our WR.
It's a huge difference.
If Mac runs a 4.75 we have a QB that will scramble for some yards, and maybe have a few designed runs, but he will need to be a much better passer and it will be critical to upgrade our WR.
It's a huge difference.
Two points, yes we all love macvettie's potential but we should let this play out. We need more depth at qb.
Second, I also like George hill at slot, I think he could be special there. He looks like a legit spread wr/rb that can motion and get the ball in many areas. We need receivers not backs right now.
Second, I also like George hill at slot, I think he could be special there. He looks like a legit spread wr/rb that can motion and get the ball in many areas. We need receivers not backs right now.
-I posted this in another thread. Look at the shuttle time differences of Whitehead and Hamlin in comparison to Wade. Its not even close, and Wade is friggin 5'9.
Whitehead
5'11
175lb
4.57 40 time
4.06 Shuttle-Flat out Dominant
31 inch vertical
33 Power Throw
Hamlin
6'1
185lb
4.5 40 time
4.11 Shuttle-Flat out Dominant
30 inch vertical
39 Power Throw
-Dominant, both of them, across the board. Its no surprise multiple sources are stating Hamlin will have one of the biggest freshmen impacts in the ACC. A 4.11 Shuttle at 6'1 is ridiculous good.
Here is Lamont Wade. Solid, but not anywhere near the level of the 2 above. Lacks in size and the Shuttle time for a 5'9 DB is average at best. Wade is clearly the 4th best player between Whitehead, Hamlin, and Paris Ford.
Lamont Wade
5'9
4.57 40 time
4.56 Shuttle
30 inch vertical
33 Power Throw
Whitehead
5'11
175lb
4.57 40 time
4.06 Shuttle-Flat out Dominant
31 inch vertical
33 Power Throw
Hamlin
6'1
185lb
4.5 40 time
4.11 Shuttle-Flat out Dominant
30 inch vertical
39 Power Throw
-Dominant, both of them, across the board. Its no surprise multiple sources are stating Hamlin will have one of the biggest freshmen impacts in the ACC. A 4.11 Shuttle at 6'1 is ridiculous good.
Here is Lamont Wade. Solid, but not anywhere near the level of the 2 above. Lacks in size and the Shuttle time for a 5'9 DB is average at best. Wade is clearly the 4th best player between Whitehead, Hamlin, and Paris Ford.
Lamont Wade
5'9
4.57 40 time
4.56 Shuttle
30 inch vertical
33 Power Throw
-The Ohio scout said the same exact thing in the link I posted in this thread. Get him reps at slot because of the speed and running ability and home run ability.
Back to TMAC, I love this guy. He has more athletic ability than anyone we have had play the position in a long time. As for the 40 time, I agree with Badby, who gives a damn, suffice it to say that his speed and quickness will be a huge plus to his overall effectiveness.
The best thing is that he is coming to us quite raw after playing only one season in high school. This means that his upside is massive. When he learns to play at this level and gets the experience he could really be something. At QB, it is all about quick decision making, that is where experience is a great teacher.
I have watched his highlights and I really was impressed. I would love to see him redshirted and be the starter in 2017.
Can't wait to hear reports from camp about his progress. If Peterman does falter or get hurt, he might be our best bet. Just put him in and let him learn on the job, after all we should have a very solid run game.
Redshirt or not, this guy is Pitt's future and I can't wait to see if he can elevate our program. With what Narduzzi is building on the defensive side, TMAC may be the answer to this program's long standing questions at QB.
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With my blue and gold glasses... TMAC pushes Peterman and Peterman has an outstanding senior season..
HAIL TO PITT !
SO you are comparing this 18 year old kid to the world record holder in the 100m dash? Thomas Macvittie, sir, is no Usain Bolt...lol...and besides, Mcvittie throws a hell of a lot better ball than Usain.
Vince Young ran a 4.58 in his NFL workouts at 6'5. Pretty sure TMAC does not have VY's speed or talent as a ballcarrier.
-Vince Young was 240lb. Its not a valid comparison. Steve Young ran a 4.53 40 and went to BYU. John Elway was a 6'4 220lb QB that ran a 4.59. This almost sounds like a white vs black comparison, but it shouldnt be. Young had a 41% completion percentage in high school. The funny thing is, BYU almost switched him to DB because of his athleticism and 40 time.
You do make stuff up out of thin air constantly, though.
What is wrong with being excited about a player? TMac does have a nice profile so there is a foundation to start a conversation about what he may be at PITT. We are fans for pete's sake.
He went to Grand Valley State in Michigan, the program that Brian Kelly built into a D2 dynasty years ago.
Huh? Somebody mentions a black QB, and it suddenly becomes a white vs. black comparison? You muist have overlooked the mention of Cam Newton earlier in the thread.
Hey genius, why don't you let MacVittie get on campus before you negatively critique him. What a douche.
Oh and look up the meaning of literally...
What position did Ben Rothlisberger play his Jr year? Whatever happened to the starting QB?
I wasn't negative towards Macvittie. I am excited about him. Did you really use the word douche? Ha.
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Agree that the fact that he didn't start until his senior year means very little as far as what kind of talent MacVittie is. Moeller had a very good QB and MacVittie's athletic talents were utilized elsewhere. He could become a good one eventually. However, anyone who thinks he will be ready to step in and run an ACC offense as a true freshman is delusional. This kid is screaming for a redshirt. Rushing him into action early would be a big mistake that could mess up his whole career, and our coaches know that-which is why he is a guaranteed redshirt.
Good point. Not starting until your senior year at Moeller isn't exactly like not starting until your senior year at, say, Leechburg.
With our current QB situation, I am not sure that you could gaurantee anyone a redshirt. While I admit this would be the best route for TMAC, he could be our best back-up as a freshman. Since back-ups are one play away from being the starter, we may have to break him in this season if he becomes our best option to back up Peterman. It would still leave him 3 years to lead the program, and he could get early experience.
Like I said before, I really am excited to hear reports of his progress once camp commences.
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40 times for QB's is a very overrated stat. If your QB has to use his legs, you're not going to win many games in a pro-style offense.
I'm way more interested in strength and accuracy in a HS QB. Release and footwork can be taught.
Also going to add that the game speed between HS and the ACC is very noticeable. He needs a year to RS and learn. Rushing him would be a mistake unless Peterman goes down and he's the only good option in the stable.
I'm way more interested in strength and accuracy in a HS QB. Release and footwork can be taught.
Also going to add that the game speed between HS and the ACC is very noticeable. He needs a year to RS and learn. Rushing him would be a mistake unless Peterman goes down and he's the only good option in the stable.
Thomas MacVittie will win three Heismans while at Pitt, unless of course Ben DiNucci pulls the ultimate BOSS move and holds off MacVittie and he wins three Heismans himself
Yeah, right. Some of you are so short sighted and anti-Pitt. There is absolutely NO WAY MacVittie only wins 3 Heismans. No chance he would leave Pitt after only starting 3 seasons. Absolute madness. Go cheer for PSUck.
I think that mite have been sarcasm. I am not sure that he is to positive on TMAC. I on the other hand, think he is a fine recruit and will turn into a fine QB. Futhermore, and I do understand the negativity because we have been essentially dormant in college football for 30 years, I would like to add that I think last years recruiting class will be one of our very best in a long time. These kids and coach Duzz are going to be very instrumental in our resurgence. Take that all you negative Nelly's!
In the immortal words of Lee Corso,"Not so fast."
Sure, Peterman may play very well all season (which would be ideal) and yeah, MacVittie may indeed have some trouble grasping the offense at first.
But let's examine a not so far-fetched scenario:
What if Peterman really struggles with his passing game this coming season? What if his inability to throw the ball effectively downfield appears to be the one thing holding this team back from a 10 plus win season and a legit shot at the BE championship? What if all of the other backups (not named MacVittie) are not looking any better?
What if MacVittie does pick up the offense quickly and everything is clicking for him by the end of this summer? What if he looks better than Peterman in practice? What if Peterman ends up throwing for less than 200 yards and only 1 touchdown and 4 INTs in his first two games? In such a scenario, do you really think it would be smart to redshirt him just because he's a freshman? Hell no!
You play the person who gives you the best opportunity to win. Period!
Plus, let's not forget this is a year where Pitt is expecting to have the best OL in the conference, the best stable of RBs ( should Conner feel ready to go), the best DL in years, and freak DBs Hamlin and Whitehead together on the field at the same time.
Pitt will likely be losing some of its best players (Conner and Price and Whitehead) next year. The time to shine is now. If Narduzzi realizes he needs more out of his QB than what he's seeing in order to win the BE title and they have a guy who looks like he can do it, he would be wise to take a chance on him–even if he's a freshman.
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