Toney gone...
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Toney Departs Pitt; Enters NCAA Transfer Portal - Pitt Panthers #H2P
PITTSBURGH – University of Pittsburgh head coach Jeff Capel announced the departure of junior Au'Diese Toney Thursday. Toney will enter the NCAA Transfer Portal.
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Think of the bright side. Pitt just got a lot more attractive for all of the 2021 JCs and transfers. Time to reload.
I don't like this transfer at all! Coach C better gets his arse out there on the recruiting trail.
You have to seriously wonder what kind of dysfunction is going on. This is frustrating...
Who’s on the short list for Head coach in 2022
Is it April Fools day? I seriously checked the date when I read this. What a disaster!!!
I’ll say SMF starts pining for Sean Miller or Rick Pitino within 24 hours.
I wonder why people just automatically assume it falls on the coach as the scapegoat all the time. This could very well be a case of "my way or the highway". X played out of control for 100% of his time here. He wasnt coachable.
Everybody leaving. This definitely falls on the coach.
Good points but the coach is responsible for the success of the team! I think Coach C is here for at least next yr if not the next 2 unless we completely tank.
Right about X for sure. But what about Toney? Puzzling and very disappointing.
It very well could be that, but it also isn't productive for a coach to claim, "Hey, all the players I've recruited refuse to listen to me!"
Capel was a good hire. He had experience, strong recruiter, well liked. We did well hiring him and I don't think we realistically could have done better.
Sadly, making the right decision doesn't always lead to great results. Some hands you put your money in with the best odds and still lose. It sucks, it happens.
Maybe Capel can right the ship. Maybe he can't. But I'm not going to be upset that we gave ourselves a good chance and went belly up. This isn't Stallings 2.0 even if the next few years look grim.
Sadly, making the right decision doesn't always lead to great results. Some hands you put your money in with the best odds and still lose. It sucks, it happens.
Maybe Capel can right the ship. Maybe he can't. But I'm not going to be upset that we gave ourselves a good chance and went belly up. This isn't Stallings 2.0 even if the next few years look grim.
What a mess. Transfers happen, especially now, but to lose an entire class to transfer is telling.
I realize Capel bashing is en vogue and I truly hate to pile on someone who, by all accounts, is a great guy and done some good things here but this is getting ugly. You can only play Kevin Bacon in Animal House claiming “All is Well” for so long before you have to face up to the facts.
I realize Capel bashing is en vogue and I truly hate to pile on someone who, by all accounts, is a great guy and done some good things here but this is getting ugly. You can only play Kevin Bacon in Animal House claiming “All is Well” for so long before you have to face up to the facts.
Barring a miracle, Pitt is multiple years away which will put it in decade plus removed from being relevant...
Basically self sanctioned themselves in BB now.
Basically self sanctioned themselves in BB now.
He wants to win. And he now sees no path to that.
He'll be going to a winning program.
Too many wheels fell off for him to stick around.
Asked my friend yesterday who hangs with Toney.
He said, Toney likes it here, he just wants to win.
He said, Toney likes it here, he just wants to win.
At least the ghost runners in the 2021 recruiting class will get more minutes due to this departure.
I don’t see any reason for a player who “likes it here” to leave with less than a month left in the season.
Maybe Capel can reach out to Steve Fisher on how to recruit the “fab five,” only the 2021 version!
The timing i can't answer that. Just repeating what a dude i know said who hangs with him on a regular basis.
Everybody? If youre really being honest youd have to admit the writing was on the wall for both Trey and X. A player CAN be at fault for a situation not working out
Eh. Players want to leave bad teams. Maybe they were bad teams because of them. I liked X, Trey and Toney, they were good players and fun to watch. But I don't look at them as leaders on a good team. I'm actually a little suspicious of guys coming to a winless program. Maybe too much of a big fish in a small pond attitude. I hate to be callous, but they served their purpose.
This isn't too say it's not a loss or that I think Capel will find someone better. Next year could be a disaster. But it's a chance to move on from something that wasn't working. Maybe he can assemble a cohesive team, we'll just have to wait and see. I'm not going to complain about this until we see what happens next. I have doubts, but I'm not going to pretend to be someone who knows how this is going to turn out.
This isn't too say it's not a loss or that I think Capel will find someone better. Next year could be a disaster. But it's a chance to move on from something that wasn't working. Maybe he can assemble a cohesive team, we'll just have to wait and see. I'm not going to complain about this until we see what happens next. I have doubts, but I'm not going to pretend to be someone who knows how this is going to turn out.
Toney was a good defender. Couldn’t create. Couldn’t shoot. Good rebounder for his size. Above average athletically. Sure, it’s a bad look, but we didn’t lose a top half player in the league.
At any point does this become embarrassing to Capel or HL?
I mean it is year three.
I mean it is year three.
I can say that it is embarrassing to me!
It's basically a 5 alarm fire at this point. We're going to lose our top 4 players (Justin is gone for sure now) and we haven't recruited anyone for 2021.
I guess it's probably worse than going winless under Stallings because it's now looking like back-to-back coaching failures and 7ish bottom 3 years which is going to be a problem that's exponentially harder to solve than two bad years.
I want Joe Lombardi. He recruits heavily the DMV and has great connections internationally.
Exactly. He was a very solid hire regardless of how this turns out. Not happy right now. I'm glad the players who don't want to be here are gone but it makes me wonder about bringing them here in the first place. Definitely a head scratcher to lose an entire class like this.
