Tweet re: Danny Hurley

[#99HUGHgreen]

I mostly agree, it is theoretically possible. I hope we see it someday. I am just saying for the purposes of a coach looking for a job where he says "OK here is a place I can compete for a title and go to final fours", Pitt ain't gonna be high on their list.

I don't see it quite that way...

I mean, there might be a few coaches who may trying to hold out for a program that's been to at least a handful of final 4s. Honestly, most up and coming coaches aren't sticking around at some mid major conference waiting around for Calipari to move on from Kentucky in hopes that they might somehow get the gig.

I think most up and coming coaches see Pitt as an ACC program that has had some talented players and coaches pass through over the years and that they are a team that often gets into the top 25 and into the NCAA tournament. Those facts and a bump in pay are more than enough for a up and coming coach to take a chance, believing that his abilities will be enough to give them a real chance at reaching a final 4.

 

[Thee Jackie Treehorn]

How many people believed Butler would get to back to back final fours (heck- 2 championship games) before it really happened. Are you going to tell me that most people believed Butler (at that time) was more likely than Pitt to reach a final four?

And it is easier for that coach to get great talent when they're coaching in the ACC than it is when they are in the Atlantic 10 (the conference Butler was in at the time and the one Rhode Island is in currently).

Butler was still in the Horizon League when they made their back-to-back Final Fours.

 

[ameoba defense]

Having Duke and Carolina in your league is a negative, not a positive if you're a coach looking to move up. It means it will be extremely difficult to win the ACC. A big reason I never wanted to go the the Big 10 was that Pitt will never be able to compete with O$U in a million years. Having teams with a huge structural advantage in your league is never a good thing. That's what was good about the Big East. The playing field was much more level.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Having Duke and Carolina in your league is a negative, not a positive if you're a coach looking to move up. It means it will be extremely difficult to win the ACC.

Right. It is 2-4 games where you will definitely ALWAYS have worse players. Its the only P5 league where you are up against that.

 

[ameoba defense]

Right. It is 2-4 games where you will definitely ALWAYS have worse players. Its the only P5 league where you are up against that.

Exactly. The best thing about the BE, was that despite all of the great teams in the league, there wasn't a single team where you felt that you were at a consistent disadvantage against. That's not the case with Duke and Carolina. Of course there are coaches who will take the challenge, but Hurley's in a position where he can afford to wait for an opening that knocks him off of his feet. Pitt would have to pay major money to get him to jump here.

 

[Jpripper88]

I mostly agree, it is theoretically possible. I hope we see it someday. I am just saying for the purposes of a coach looking for a job where he says "OK here is a place I can compete for a title and go to final fours", Pitt ain't gonna be high on their list.

But then who is high on that list? It is the blue bloods and everybody else. Butler and Xavier aren't higher. Syracuse isn't even higher. It all comes down to the right hire and admin commitment. That's it. You need so little in basketball to transform a program.

 

[#99HUGHgreen]

But then who is high on that list? It is the blue bloods and everybody else. Butler and Xavier aren't higher. Syracuse isn't even higher. It all comes down to the right hire and admin commitment. That's it. You need so little in basketball to transform a program.

Xavier and Butler are two legit major programs now that go deep in the tournament on a regular basis... so I get the appeal for a coach to go to one of those schools.

Pitt is a bigger school in the bigger conference, though. Pitt has more money and is willing to pay their head coach more money (at least they did so with Dixon) than those two programs are will to do- at least at this point.

To your point, I agree that I can see someone like Danny Hurley going for the Pitt Job over those two (if all happen e to be available. Again, more $ and a guarantee that you'll get to coach against greats like Coach K and Roy Williams and Tony Bennett every year - and prove you're the best.

 

[Pittsburgh Penguin]

Butler was still in the Horizon League when they made their back-to-back Final Fours.

He still thinks Pitt is in the Big East.. I’m thinking this is the Real Hugh Green and his posts are a result of CTE!!!

 

[#99HUGHgreen]

He still thinks Pitt is in the Big East.. I’m thinking this is the Real Hugh Green and his posts are a result of CTE!!!

Did you come up with those hilarious thoughts all by yourself Mario.

Don't you have anything better to do than make snide remarks every chance you get on a basketball board.

Oh my... someone actually forgot that Butler had not yet moved to the A-10 from the Horizon when they got to a final four. Time to make a snide comment.

 

[Delpanther]

Having Duke and Carolina in your league is a negative, not a positive if you're a coach looking to move up. It means it will be extremely difficult to win the ACC. A big reason I never wanted to go the the Big 10 was that Pitt will never be able to compete with O$U in a million years. Having teams with a huge structural advantage in your league is never a good thing. That's what was good about the Big East. The playing field was much more level.

Pitt was able to beat both Duke and UNC at home and give them a game at their place when we had decent teams... all this pessimism is completely unfounded

 

[PittMan 72]

Pitt was able to beat both Duke and UNC at home and give them a game at their place when we had decent teams... all this pessimism is completely unfounded

Yep. And if Pitt gets the right coach who can recruit a few high level ACC caliber players, they can get back to that point again relatively soon.

Of course there are no guarantees they'll be able to hire that type of a head coach who is able to acquire those types of players.

But unless Pitt just wants to roll over and give up, they absolutely must try.

 

[Pittsburgh Penguin]

Did you come up with those hilarious thoughts all by yourself Mario.

Don't you have anything better to do than make snide remarks every chance you get on a basketball board.

Oh my... someone actually forgot that Butler had not yet moved to the A-10 from the Horizon when they got to a final four. Time to make a snide comment.

If you can’t get the basic facts correct, Why should anyone take your posts serious?

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Pitt was able to beat both Duke and UNC at home and give them a game at their place when we had decent teams... all this pessimism is completely unfounded

We were one of the best team in the Big East when the best teams in the Big East were better than the best teams in the ACC. The notion that we can't ever compete with those two is silly.

 

[Delpanther]

We were one of the best team in the Big East when the best teams in the Big East were better than the best teams in the ACC. The notion that we can't ever compete with those two is silly.

Agreed...

 

[Black_Man_Panther]

We were one of the best team in the Big East when the best teams in the Big East were better than the best teams in the ACC. The notion that we can't ever compete with those two is silly.

As a Pitt fan when they joined the Big East in the early 80s, Georgetown, St. John's and Syracuse were every bit as a challenge to Pitt as the current ACC is. Within 5 years Pitt was going toe-to-toe with them.

 

[4Mark_Marty]

As a Pitt fan when they joined the Big East in the early 80s, Georgetown, St. John's and Syracuse were every bit as a challenge to Pitt as the current ACC is. Within 5 years Pitt was going toe-to-toe with them.

Thank you Cal