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** There’s only one reason I’m really upset with today’s loss. That reason is that we lost to Wake Forest on Saturday.

** This wasn’t a bad effort against the Tar Heels tonight. It wasn’t our best by any means, and is perhaps most appropriately described as inconsistent.

** I have no problem conceding that UNC is far superior to our Panthers in the paint. We simply had no answer to the question of how to stop the post up and score.

** But we did plenty of good things too, and didn’t let the Heels run and hide.

** So in many ways, this loss would barely bother me at all if our record before the game had been 5-1 instead of 4-2. It shouldn’t be seen as unreasonable loss. But after the L at Wake, it’s big missed opportunity for a team with the need to stack wins on their way to March.

** And therefore, we are stuck trying to figure out what went wrong with this one.

** There was nothing wrong with Justin, at least not on the offensive end anyway. With his 4-5 shots from three point land, he’s now bombing away at 41% from deep, not to mention 55% from the floor.

** The only problem I can offer about Justin’s offense is that the Panthers only found a way to get him 9 shots. Of course, much of that has to do with the UNC defense, but a little too much of it has to do with the wrong guy, taking the wrong shot, too early.

** Ithiel was guilty of forcing a few too many shots perhaps, but overall I like how he was hunting his offense. The Panthers need him to score for them to be their best.

** Xaiver had his share of the forced drives we come to hate as much as anything we see with Pitt Hoops these days. Otherwise, I do think he effectively created offense at times, even if he’s just not the shooter we’d like him to be.

** But while we are lamenting Xavier (some of it deserved of course), we simply can’t forget that he leads the ACC in assists by a large margin, while he’s among the leaders in assist to turnovers. I’m not using this information to defend X’s errors per se, but instead to remind us that it’s not as if everyone else is so much better at the point than our guy. They make mistakes too, and don't always do as many good things as X.

** While I’ll never blame the guy for a loss, this was certainly a game where a few more points from Au’Diese would have gone a long way. Instead, this was a game where he was simply unable to get into his offense in an important way. Or in other words, he didn’t hit a jump shot.

** AKC is trying to assert himself on offense a little more, which at times is helping the team, and at others leaves himself in a place of trying to do a little more than he capable of. But I will forgive AKC, because he’s all the Panthers have at the five.

** But hey, we shot 77% from the line and outscored them at the stripe 13-7 (and UNC shot 50%) so one would figure we would have won this one, yes?

** All of this offensive talk probably misses the point though. The Panthers lost this one because of the two things which allowed them to pull off two impressive wins against the Orange and another against the Blue Devils – defense and rebounding.

** Rebounding efforts like we watched tonight had become pretty commonplace over the past few seasons, but the Panthers inability to clear the defensive glass stuck out this season like a very sore thumb. And plain and simply for my money, it’s the biggest reason we lost.

** The first three offensive rebounds gathered by UNC looked like bounces to the wrong spot. The last 11 looked like really bad effort. I could pick out a few of the worst offenders, but let’s just put this on the whole team.

** And of course, we were powerless to stop UNC in the paint. I will give AKC a pass, because he was able to battle his man well before shots went up. But he was often left powerless on second chances.

** While I don’t think numbers tell every story, I wasn’t surprised that Au’Diese and Justin were -13 and -14 respectively. It may not have been an effort problem leading to Toney only getting 2 boards, but our success depends on many more rebounds from him.

** One small positive note was watching Femi on the same court as RJ Davis. There’s no doubt Femi was a definite plan B after the hard recruiting loss that was Davis. But the difference between the two may not be nearly what their recruiting numbers might suggest it would be.

** A game against the Irish gives our Panthers a much needed opportunity to put these two losses behind them and get back on the track of where we would like them to be.

** One of the things I really miss about the Big East are the Saturday night games. Many more ACC games start at noon on Sat, or even take place the next day.

** So I’m looking forward to watching this one against a former Big East foe at 8pm, enjoying a couple of craft malt beverages. Seems like old times even. Hopefully the result will remind us of many of the those Big East Saturday nights of the past as well.

** Of course, I wouldn’t be upset about that at all!
 
** There’s only one reason I’m really upset with today’s loss. That reason is that we lost to Wake Forest on Saturday.

** This wasn’t a bad effort against the Tar Heels tonight. It wasn’t our best by any means, and is perhaps most appropriately described as inconsistent.

** I have no problem conceding that UNC is far superior to our Panthers in the paint. We simply had no answer to the question of how to stop the post up and score.

** But we did plenty of good things too, and didn’t let the Heels run and hide.

** So in many ways, this loss would barely bother me at all if our record before the game had been 5-1 instead of 4-2. It shouldn’t be seen as unreasonable loss. But after the L at Wake, it’s big missed opportunity for a team with the need to stack wins on their way to March.

** And therefore, we are stuck trying to figure out what went wrong with this one.

** There was nothing wrong with Justin, at least not on the offensive end anyway. With his 4-5 shots from three point land, he’s now bombing away at 41% from deep, not to mention 55% from the floor.

** The only problem I can offer about Justin’s offense is that the Panthers only found a way to get him 9 shots. Of course, much of that has to do with the UNC defense, but a little too much of it has to do with the wrong guy, taking the wrong shot, too early.

** Ithiel was guilty of forcing a few too many shots perhaps, but overall I like how he was hunting his offense. The Panthers need him to score for them to be their best.

** Xaiver had his share of the forced drives we come to hate as much as anything we see with Pitt Hoops these days. Otherwise, I do think he effectively created offense at times, even if he’s just not the shooter we’d like him to be.

** But while we are lamenting Xavier (some of it deserved of course), we simply can’t forget that he leads the ACC in assists by a large margin, while he’s among the leaders in assist to turnovers. I’m not using this information to defend X’s errors per se, but instead to remind us that it’s not as if everyone else is so much better at the point than our guy. They make mistakes too, and don't always do as many good things as X.

** While I’ll never blame the guy for a loss, this was certainly a game where a few more points from Au’Diese would have gone a long way. Instead, this was a game where he was simply unable to get into his offense in an important way. Or in other words, he didn’t hit a jump shot.

** AKC is trying to assert himself on offense a little more, which at times is helping the team, and at others leaves himself in a place of trying to do a little more than he capable of. But I will forgive AKC, because he’s all the Panthers have at the five.

** But hey, we shot 77% from the line and outscored them at the stripe 13-7 (and UNC shot 50%) so one would figure we would have won this one, yes?

** All of this offensive talk probably misses the point though. The Panthers lost this one because of the two things which allowed them to pull off two impressive wins against the Orange and another against the Blue Devils – defense and rebounding.

** Rebounding efforts like we watched tonight had become pretty commonplace over the past few seasons, but the Panthers inability to clear the defensive glass stuck out this season like a very sore thumb. And plain and simply for my money, it’s the biggest reason we lost.

** The first three offensive rebounds gathered by UNC looked like bounces to the wrong spot. The last 11 looked like really bad effort. I could pick out a few of the worst offenders, but let’s just put this on the whole team.

** And of course, we were powerless to stop UNC in the paint. I will give AKC a pass, because he was able to battle his man well before shots went up. But he was often left powerless on second chances.

** While I don’t think numbers tell every story, I wasn’t surprised that Au’Diese and Justin were -13 and -14 respectively. It may not have been an effort problem leading to Toney only getting 2 boards, but our success depends on many more rebounds from him.

** One small positive note was watching Femi on the same court as RJ Davis. There’s no doubt Femi was a definite plan B after the hard recruiting loss that was Davis. But the difference between the two may not be nearly what their recruiting numbers might suggest it would be.

** A game against the Irish gives our Panthers a much needed opportunity to put these two losses behind them and get back on the track of where we would like them to be.

** One of the things I really miss about the Big East are the Saturday night games. Many more ACC games start at noon on Sat, or even take place the next day.

** So I’m looking forward to watching this one against a former Big East foe at 8pm, enjoying a couple of craft malt beverages. Seems like old times even. Hopefully the result will remind us of many of the those Big East Saturday nights of the past as well.

** Of course, I wouldn’t be upset about that at all!
I can't believe you didn't mention how awful Terrell Brown was. Would have liked you to opine on what to do about him moving forward. More Max? I mean it wasn't a coincidence that North Carolina was much more dominant when he wad on the court. I've seen enough of Terrell Brown.
 
I can't believe you didn't mention how awful Terrell Brown was. Would have liked you to opine on what to do about him moving forward. More Max? I mean it wasn't a coincidence that North Carolina was much more dominant when he wad on the court. I've seen enough of Terrell Brown.
It sucks because there is nothing we can do.
 
** There’s only one reason I’m really upset with today’s loss. That reason is that we lost to Wake Forest on Saturday.

** This wasn’t a bad effort against the Tar Heels tonight. It wasn’t our best by any means, and is perhaps most appropriately described as inconsistent.

** I have no problem conceding that UNC is far superior to our Panthers in the paint. We simply had no answer to the question of how to stop the post up and score.

** But we did plenty of good things too, and didn’t let the Heels run and hide.

** So in many ways, this loss would barely bother me at all if our record before the game had been 5-1 instead of 4-2. It shouldn’t be seen as unreasonable loss. But after the L at Wake, it’s big missed opportunity for a team with the need to stack wins on their way to March.

** And therefore, we are stuck trying to figure out what went wrong with this one.

** There was nothing wrong with Justin, at least not on the offensive end anyway. With his 4-5 shots from three point land, he’s now bombing away at 41% from deep, not to mention 55% from the floor.

** The only problem I can offer about Justin’s offense is that the Panthers only found a way to get him 9 shots. Of course, much of that has to do with the UNC defense, but a little too much of it has to do with the wrong guy, taking the wrong shot, too early.

** Ithiel was guilty of forcing a few too many shots perhaps, but overall I like how he was hunting his offense. The Panthers need him to score for them to be their best.

** Xaiver had his share of the forced drives we come to hate as much as anything we see with Pitt Hoops these days. Otherwise, I do think he effectively created offense at times, even if he’s just not the shooter we’d like him to be.

** But while we are lamenting Xavier (some of it deserved of course), we simply can’t forget that he leads the ACC in assists by a large margin, while he’s among the leaders in assist to turnovers. I’m not using this information to defend X’s errors per se, but instead to remind us that it’s not as if everyone else is so much better at the point than our guy. They make mistakes too, and don't always do as many good things as X.

** While I’ll never blame the guy for a loss, this was certainly a game where a few more points from Au’Diese would have gone a long way. Instead, this was a game where he was simply unable to get into his offense in an important way. Or in other words, he didn’t hit a jump shot.

** AKC is trying to assert himself on offense a little more, which at times is helping the team, and at others leaves himself in a place of trying to do a little more than he capable of. But I will forgive AKC, because he’s all the Panthers have at the five.

** But hey, we shot 77% from the line and outscored them at the stripe 13-7 (and UNC shot 50%) so one would figure we would have won this one, yes?

** All of this offensive talk probably misses the point though. The Panthers lost this one because of the two things which allowed them to pull off two impressive wins against the Orange and another against the Blue Devils – defense and rebounding.

** Rebounding efforts like we watched tonight had become pretty commonplace over the past few seasons, but the Panthers inability to clear the defensive glass stuck out this season like a very sore thumb. And plain and simply for my money, it’s the biggest reason we lost.

** The first three offensive rebounds gathered by UNC looked like bounces to the wrong spot. The last 11 looked like really bad effort. I could pick out a few of the worst offenders, but let’s just put this on the whole team.

** And of course, we were powerless to stop UNC in the paint. I will give AKC a pass, because he was able to battle his man well before shots went up. But he was often left powerless on second chances.

** While I don’t think numbers tell every story, I wasn’t surprised that Au’Diese and Justin were -13 and -14 respectively. It may not have been an effort problem leading to Toney only getting 2 boards, but our success depends on many more rebounds from him.

** One small positive note was watching Femi on the same court as RJ Davis. There’s no doubt Femi was a definite plan B after the hard recruiting loss that was Davis. But the difference between the two may not be nearly what their recruiting numbers might suggest it would be.

** A game against the Irish gives our Panthers a much needed opportunity to put these two losses behind them and get back on the track of where we would like them to be.

** One of the things I really miss about the Big East are the Saturday night games. Many more ACC games start at noon on Sat, or even take place the next day.

** So I’m looking forward to watching this one against a former Big East foe at 8pm, enjoying a couple of craft malt beverages. Seems like old times even. Hopefully the result will remind us of many of the those Big East Saturday nights of the past as well.

** Of course, I wouldn’t be upset about that at all!
Regardless of the score, I never thought we had a chance tonight.

I thought we looked listless at times. Effort to rebound pretty non existent.

X has done a good bit of reverting. Toney has been an MIA for a game and a have.

We have lost a lot of our depth. It is hurting us.

I said we were back even without Hugley. I was wrong.

I would like to see what Nike can do if Capel would encourage him to be more assertive. If he can give Horton points, I think he adds. Defense and rebounding.

Like it or not, Max needs to see the court. Brown is killing us.
 
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I can't believe you didn't mention how awful Terrell Brown was. Would have liked you to opine on what to do about him moving forward. More Max? I mean it wasn't a coincidence that North Carolina was much more dominant when he wad on the court. I've seen enough of Terrell Brown.

"But I will forgive AKC, because he’s all the Panthers have at the five."

Beyond that, I don't see the value of tearing down the players in the way you describe.

I don't know what choices we have at the five. I suspect the best bet is keeping Terrell to the 11 minutes or so that he received tonight and hope he'll be more productive. He really struggled tonight, as bad as we've every seen. But he's had a few good splashes in his days here too.

I don't think Max is ready at all, and it doesn't appear that Jeff think Collier should play minutes there.

Unless there is a completely unexpected return of Hugley, let's hope for Terrell to be at his best.
 
Regardless of the score, I never thought we had a chance tonight.

I thought we looked listless at times. Effort to rebound pretty non existent.

X has done a good bit of reverting. Toney has been an MIA for a game and a have.

We have lost a lot of our depth. It is hurting us.

I said we were back even without Hugley. I was wrong.

I would like to see what Nike can do if Capel would encourage him to be more assertive. If he can give Horton points, I think he adds. Defense and rebounding.

Like it or not, Max needs to see the court. Brown is killing us.

Maybe Noah, but not Max. He's just not anywhere close at this point.
 
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This was just a terrible matchup. Their strongest players are post players and our weakest players are post players. They had two top 30 overall 2020 players in the post there and a top 30 2019 player. Garrison Brooks is a senior and a grown ass man. Black is 6' 8" too. That's a lot of size and talent and we're just not going to match up with that. If they had some lights out forward that we could throw Toney on, hey, we've got a shot. But against that size it's just too steep a hill.

Brown is who he's always been. I thought he'd take a step forward this year, but he's really the same guy as last year or even two years ago. That's not a disaster, he still blocks shots well, but he's just not a guy who's going to start for a top half ACC team and that's where we wanna be.

I assume Max is a confirmed project and we won't see him this year or necessarily next year. Maybe he's next Gary Mcghee? I'd take that.
 
Regardless of the score, I never thought we had a chance tonight.

I thought we looked listless at times. Effort to rebound pretty non existent.

X has done a good bit of reverting. Toney has been an MIA for a game and a have.

We have lost a lot of our depth. It is hurting us.

I said we were back even without Hugley. I was wrong.

I would like to see what Nike can do if Capel would encourage him to be more assertive. If he can give Horton points, I think he adds. Defense and rebounding.

Like it or not, Max needs to see the court. Brown is killing us.

Also, I agree about effort to rebound. The first half didn't look listless to me, but somehow out of sort, and certainly not comfortable. Second half offense was better, but they were manhandled in the paint in the second frame.

Obviously, I expected Hughly to be taking a regular role, and that would help AKC because I don't know if he's built for 29 minutes. But there was no other choice.

I was hoping William would be playing about 10 too.
 
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This was just a terrible matchup. Their strongest players are post players and our weakest players are post players. They had two top 30 overall 2020 players in the post there and a top 30 2019 player. Garrison Brooks is a senior and a grown ass man. Black is 6' 8" too. That's a lot of size and talent and we're just not going to match up with that. If they had some lights out forward that we could throw Toney on, hey, we've got a shot. But against that size it's just too steep a hill.

Brown is who he's always been. I thought he'd take a step forward this year, but he's really the same guy as last year or even two years ago. That's not a disaster, he still blocks shots well, but he's just not a guy who's going to start for a top half ACC team and that's where we wanna be.

I assume Max is a confirmed project and we won't see him this year or necessarily next year. Maybe he's next Gary Mcghee? I'd take that.

Gary actually played some important Big East minutes during his freshman year. I suspect Max has much further to go than Gary did.
 
This was just a terrible matchup. Their strongest players are post players and our weakest players are post players. They had two top 30 overall 2020 players in the post there and a top 30 2019 player. Garrison Brooks is a senior and a grown ass man. Black is 6' 8" too. That's a lot of size and talent and we're just not going to match up with that. If they had some lights out forward that we could throw Toney on, hey, we've got a shot. But against that size it's just too steep a hill.

Brown is who he's always been. I thought he'd take a step forward this year, but he's really the same guy as last year or even two years ago. That's not a disaster, he still blocks shots well, but he's just not a guy who's going to start for a top half ACC team and that's where we wanna be.

I assume Max is a confirmed project and we won't see him this year or necessarily next year. Maybe he's next Gary Mcghee? I'd take that.
I just looked at Brown’s year to year stats, and he has been essentially the same player that he was as a freshman. There is no noticeable improvement in his game.
 
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Gary actually played some important Big East minutes during his freshman year. I suspect Max has much further to go than Gary did.
Gary got 3 fouls in less than a minute. I'll never forget that game. I don't remember him being very productive as a freshman with us.
 
Also, I agree about effort to rebound. The first half didn't look listless to me, but somehow out of sort, and certainly not comfortable. Second half offense was better, but they were manhandled in the paint in the second frame.

Obviously, I expected Hughley to be taking a regular role, and that would help AKC because I don't know if he's built for 29 minutes. But there was no other choice.

I was hoping William would be playing about 10 too.
Also fyi it's Hugley not Hughley.
 
Gary got 3 fouls in less than a minute. I'll never forget that game. I don't remember him being very productive as a freshman with us.

Your memory is failing you. The 3 fouls were in his sophomore year.

Also, I didn't say Gary was productive. I said he played some important minutes as a freshman. In all, he played in 21 games including 16 Big East games. He played 12 minutes on the road at South Florida against All-Big East center Kentrell Gransberry. He played 10 minutes in a win against Providence, and 7 minutes in the Ron Ramon buzzer beater game against WVU. There were others.
 
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Your memory is failing you. The 3 fouls were in his sophomore year.

Also, I didn't say Gary was productive. I said he played some important minutes as a freshman. In all, he played in 21 games including 16 Big East games. He played 12 minutes on the road at South Florida against All-Big East center Kentrell Gransberry. He played 10 minutes in a win against Providence, and 7 minutes in the Ron Ramon buzzer beater game against WVU. There were others.
My bad. Thx for the correction.
 
** There’s only one reason I’m really upset with today’s loss. That reason is that we lost to Wake Forest on Saturday.

** This wasn’t a bad effort against the Tar Heels tonight. It wasn’t our best by any means, and is perhaps most appropriately described as inconsistent.

** I have no problem conceding that UNC is far superior to our Panthers in the paint. We simply had no answer to the question of how to stop the post up and score.

** But we did plenty of good things too, and didn’t let the Heels run and hide.

** So in many ways, this loss would barely bother me at all if our record before the game had been 5-1 instead of 4-2. It shouldn’t be seen as unreasonable loss. But after the L at Wake, it’s big missed opportunity for a team with the need to stack wins on their way to March.

** And therefore, we are stuck trying to figure out what went wrong with this one.

** There was nothing wrong with Justin, at least not on the offensive end anyway. With his 4-5 shots from three point land, he’s now bombing away at 41% from deep, not to mention 55% from the floor.

** The only problem I can offer about Justin’s offense is that the Panthers only found a way to get him 9 shots. Of course, much of that has to do with the UNC defense, but a little too much of it has to do with the wrong guy, taking the wrong shot, too early.

** Ithiel was guilty of forcing a few too many shots perhaps, but overall I like how he was hunting his offense. The Panthers need him to score for them to be their best.

** Xaiver had his share of the forced drives we come to hate as much as anything we see with Pitt Hoops these days. Otherwise, I do think he effectively created offense at times, even if he’s just not the shooter we’d like him to be.

** But while we are lamenting Xavier (some of it deserved of course), we simply can’t forget that he leads the ACC in assists by a large margin, while he’s among the leaders in assist to turnovers. I’m not using this information to defend X’s errors per se, but instead to remind us that it’s not as if everyone else is so much better at the point than our guy. They make mistakes too, and don't always do as many good things as X.

** While I’ll never blame the guy for a loss, this was certainly a game where a few more points from Au’Diese would have gone a long way. Instead, this was a game where he was simply unable to get into his offense in an important way. Or in other words, he didn’t hit a jump shot.

** AKC is trying to assert himself on offense a little more, which at times is helping the team, and at others leaves himself in a place of trying to do a little more than he capable of. But I will forgive AKC, because he’s all the Panthers have at the five.

** But hey, we shot 77% from the line and outscored them at the stripe 13-7 (and UNC shot 50%) so one would figure we would have won this one, yes?

** All of this offensive talk probably misses the point though. The Panthers lost this one because of the two things which allowed them to pull off two impressive wins against the Orange and another against the Blue Devils – defense and rebounding.

** Rebounding efforts like we watched tonight had become pretty commonplace over the past few seasons, but the Panthers inability to clear the defensive glass stuck out this season like a very sore thumb. And plain and simply for my money, it’s the biggest reason we lost.

** The first three offensive rebounds gathered by UNC looked like bounces to the wrong spot. The last 11 looked like really bad effort. I could pick out a few of the worst offenders, but let’s just put this on the whole team.

** And of course, we were powerless to stop UNC in the paint. I will give AKC a pass, because he was able to battle his man well before shots went up. But he was often left powerless on second chances.

** While I don’t think numbers tell every story, I wasn’t surprised that Au’Diese and Justin were -13 and -14 respectively. It may not have been an effort problem leading to Toney only getting 2 boards, but our success depends on many more rebounds from him.

** One small positive note was watching Femi on the same court as RJ Davis. There’s no doubt Femi was a definite plan B after the hard recruiting loss that was Davis. But the difference between the two may not be nearly what their recruiting numbers might suggest it would be.

** A game against the Irish gives our Panthers a much needed opportunity to put these two losses behind them and get back on the track of where we would like them to be.

** One of the things I really miss about the Big East are the Saturday night games. Many more ACC games start at noon on Sat, or even take place the next day.

** So I’m looking forward to watching this one against a former Big East foe at 8pm, enjoying a couple of craft malt beverages. Seems like old times even. Hopefully the result will remind us of many of the those Big East Saturday nights of the past as well.

** Of course, I wouldn’t be upset about that at all!
This game and the Wake game too:

"but a little too much of it has to do with the wrong guy, taking the wrong shot, too early. "
 
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I just looked at Brown’s year to year stats, and he has been essentially the same player that he was as a freshman. There is no noticeable improvement in his game.

I remember his 19 point game as a freshman in a 24 point loss to Clemson. Many thought it meant good things for the future. But they never really did much to defend him.

I thought Terrell played really well during Pitt win against L-ville during his soph year. It was in the middle of a six game stretch when he was nearly averaging 10PPG. He averaged over 4 blocks per game during that stretch. I thought he was making progress.

But his last two years have been steps in the wrong direction.
 
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I remember his 19 point game as a freshman in a 24 point loss to Clemson. Many thought it meant good things for the future. But they never really did much to defend him.

I thought Terrell played really well during Pitt win against L-ville during his soph year. It was in the middle of a six stretch when he was nearly averaging 10PPG. He averaged over 4 blocks per game during that stretch. I thought he was making progress.

But his last two years have been steps in the wrong direction.
He had 2 passes to him tonight that the most pedestrian player easily converts.

He had two fumbles and a block against.
 
Weird thing to correct but ok.

Correct spelling of names are important to many people I've learned, and it's something I strive to get right.

But I believe you have seen my actual last name and therefore would understand why I am not at all sensitive to people spelling my name correctly. I'm shocked if they do actually. LOL!
 
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He had 2 passes to him tonight that the most pedestrian player easily converts.

He had two fumbles and a block against.

What I disliked most was the 18 foot jump shot early in the shot clock. There may have been a time in his Pitt career when that wasn't all that much worse than many of our other options. But that is no longer the case, and mental mistakes are harder for me to take that physical ones.
 
What I disliked most was the 18 foot jump shot early in the shot clock. There may have been a time in his Pitt career when that wasn't all that much worse than many of our other options. But that is no longer the case, and mental mistakes are harder for me to take that physical ones.
Agree
 
** There’s only one reason I’m really upset with today’s loss. That reason is that we lost to Wake Forest on Saturday.

** This wasn’t a bad effort against the Tar Heels tonight. It wasn’t our best by any means, and is perhaps most appropriately described as inconsistent.

** I have no problem conceding that UNC is far superior to our Panthers in the paint. We simply had no answer to the question of how to stop the post up and score.

** But we did plenty of good things too, and didn’t let the Heels run and hide.

** So in many ways, this loss would barely bother me at all if our record before the game had been 5-1 instead of 4-2. It shouldn’t be seen as unreasonable loss. But after the L at Wake, it’s big missed opportunity for a team with the need to stack wins on their way to March.

** And therefore, we are stuck trying to figure out what went wrong with this one.

** There was nothing wrong with Justin, at least not on the offensive end anyway. With his 4-5 shots from three point land, he’s now bombing away at 41% from deep, not to mention 55% from the floor.

** The only problem I can offer about Justin’s offense is that the Panthers only found a way to get him 9 shots. Of course, much of that has to do with the UNC defense, but a little too much of it has to do with the wrong guy, taking the wrong shot, too early.

** Ithiel was guilty of forcing a few too many shots perhaps, but overall I like how he was hunting his offense. The Panthers need him to score for them to be their best.

** Xaiver had his share of the forced drives we come to hate as much as anything we see with Pitt Hoops these days. Otherwise, I do think he effectively created offense at times, even if he’s just not the shooter we’d like him to be.

** But while we are lamenting Xavier (some of it deserved of course), we simply can’t forget that he leads the ACC in assists by a large margin, while he’s among the leaders in assist to turnovers. I’m not using this information to defend X’s errors per se, but instead to remind us that it’s not as if everyone else is so much better at the point than our guy. They make mistakes too, and don't always do as many good things as X.

** While I’ll never blame the guy for a loss, this was certainly a game where a few more points from Au’Diese would have gone a long way. Instead, this was a game where he was simply unable to get into his offense in an important way. Or in other words, he didn’t hit a jump shot.

** AKC is trying to assert himself on offense a little more, which at times is helping the team, and at others leaves himself in a place of trying to do a little more than he capable of. But I will forgive AKC, because he’s all the Panthers have at the five.

** But hey, we shot 77% from the line and outscored them at the stripe 13-7 (and UNC shot 50%) so one would figure we would have won this one, yes?

** All of this offensive talk probably misses the point though. The Panthers lost this one because of the two things which allowed them to pull off two impressive wins against the Orange and another against the Blue Devils – defense and rebounding.

** Rebounding efforts like we watched tonight had become pretty commonplace over the past few seasons, but the Panthers inability to clear the defensive glass stuck out this season like a very sore thumb. And plain and simply for my money, it’s the biggest reason we lost.

** The first three offensive rebounds gathered by UNC looked like bounces to the wrong spot. The last 11 looked like really bad effort. I could pick out a few of the worst offenders, but let’s just put this on the whole team.

** And of course, we were powerless to stop UNC in the paint. I will give AKC a pass, because he was able to battle his man well before shots went up. But he was often left powerless on second chances.

** While I don’t think numbers tell every story, I wasn’t surprised that Au’Diese and Justin were -13 and -14 respectively. It may not have been an effort problem leading to Toney only getting 2 boards, but our success depends on many more rebounds from him.

** One small positive note was watching Femi on the same court as RJ Davis. There’s no doubt Femi was a definite plan B after the hard recruiting loss that was Davis. But the difference between the two may not be nearly what their recruiting numbers might suggest it would be.

** A game against the Irish gives our Panthers a much needed opportunity to put these two losses behind them and get back on the track of where we would like them to be.

** One of the things I really miss about the Big East are the Saturday night games. Many more ACC games start at noon on Sat, or even take place the next day.

** So I’m looking forward to watching this one against a former Big East foe at 8pm, enjoying a couple of craft malt beverages. Seems like old times even. Hopefully the result will remind us of many of the those Big East Saturday nights of the past as well.

** Of course, I wouldn’t be upset about that at all!

Ithiel Horton's ACC only stats through 7 Games

ORTG Offensive Power Rating: 106.3
11 PPG
3 rebounds per game
2 assists per game
41% FG Percentage
37.5% 3 point percentage
83% free throw percentage

This is starting to look quite good for a sophomore.


Femi Odukale (ACC only stats)

ORTG: 86.1
7.1 points per game
3 rebounds per game
2.3 assists per game
46.5% FG percentage
25% 3 point shooting
31% Free Throw

Besides the shooting percentage from 3 and the line, Femi has Levance Fields beat in points, boards, and assists as a freshmen to freshmen comparison. His defense is far better than Levance at the same stage. Femi's Shooting % will go up big time after the broken arm has a full year to recover, starting next year. Im quite pleased with his ACC play all things considered and I must ask myself "what if" he didn't collide with the car before the season started screwing up his arm.


I only have 2 other things to add here.

-Pitt has lost the last 2 games and Xavier Johnson has taken the "most" shots combined the last 2 games. With the way Champ is shooting (Horton too) that is almost silly that Johnson leads the team with the most shot attempts.

-AKC was a net positive in this game in the box score efficiency metrics along with Champ and Horton. It was Brown that crushed this team for the 2nd game in a row with the biggest net negative. AKC's overall play is still very undervalued.


The importance of both Efton Reid and a potential Mady Troare reclass cant be understated. We massively need both.
 
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** There’s only one reason I’m really upset with today’s loss. That reason is that we lost to Wake Forest on Saturday.

** This wasn’t a bad effort against the Tar Heels tonight. It wasn’t our best by any means, and is perhaps most appropriately described as inconsistent.

** I have no problem conceding that UNC is far superior to our Panthers in the paint. We simply had no answer to the question of how to stop the post up and score.

** But we did plenty of good things too, and didn’t let the Heels run and hide.

** So in many ways, this loss would barely bother me at all if our record before the game had been 5-1 instead of 4-2. It shouldn’t be seen as unreasonable loss. But after the L at Wake, it’s big missed opportunity for a team with the need to stack wins on their way to March.

** And therefore, we are stuck trying to figure out what went wrong with this one.

** There was nothing wrong with Justin, at least not on the offensive end anyway. With his 4-5 shots from three point land, he’s now bombing away at 41% from deep, not to mention 55% from the floor.

** The only problem I can offer about Justin’s offense is that the Panthers only found a way to get him 9 shots. Of course, much of that has to do with the UNC defense, but a little too much of it has to do with the wrong guy, taking the wrong shot, too early.

** Ithiel was guilty of forcing a few too many shots perhaps, but overall I like how he was hunting his offense. The Panthers need him to score for them to be their best.

** Xaiver had his share of the forced drives we come to hate as much as anything we see with Pitt Hoops these days. Otherwise, I do think he effectively created offense at times, even if he’s just not the shooter we’d like him to be.

** But while we are lamenting Xavier (some of it deserved of course), we simply can’t forget that he leads the ACC in assists by a large margin, while he’s among the leaders in assist to turnovers. I’m not using this information to defend X’s errors per se, but instead to remind us that it’s not as if everyone else is so much better at the point than our guy. They make mistakes too, and don't always do as many good things as X.

** While I’ll never blame the guy for a loss, this was certainly a game where a few more points from Au’Diese would have gone a long way. Instead, this was a game where he was simply unable to get into his offense in an important way. Or in other words, he didn’t hit a jump shot.

** AKC is trying to assert himself on offense a little more, which at times is helping the team, and at others leaves himself in a place of trying to do a little more than he capable of. But I will forgive AKC, because he’s all the Panthers have at the five.

** But hey, we shot 77% from the line and outscored them at the stripe 13-7 (and UNC shot 50%) so one would figure we would have won this one, yes?

** All of this offensive talk probably misses the point though. The Panthers lost this one because of the two things which allowed them to pull off two impressive wins against the Orange and another against the Blue Devils – defense and rebounding.

** Rebounding efforts like we watched tonight had become pretty commonplace over the past few seasons, but the Panthers inability to clear the defensive glass stuck out this season like a very sore thumb. And plain and simply for my money, it’s the biggest reason we lost.

** The first three offensive rebounds gathered by UNC looked like bounces to the wrong spot. The last 11 looked like really bad effort. I could pick out a few of the worst offenders, but let’s just put this on the whole team.

** And of course, we were powerless to stop UNC in the paint. I will give AKC a pass, because he was able to battle his man well before shots went up. But he was often left powerless on second chances.

** While I don’t think numbers tell every story, I wasn’t surprised that Au’Diese and Justin were -13 and -14 respectively. It may not have been an effort problem leading to Toney only getting 2 boards, but our success depends on many more rebounds from him.

** One small positive note was watching Femi on the same court as RJ Davis. There’s no doubt Femi was a definite plan B after the hard recruiting loss that was Davis. But the difference between the two may not be nearly what their recruiting numbers might suggest it would be.

** A game against the Irish gives our Panthers a much needed opportunity to put these two losses behind them and get back on the track of where we would like them to be.

** One of the things I really miss about the Big East are the Saturday night games. Many more ACC games start at noon on Sat, or even take place the next day.

** So I’m looking forward to watching this one against a former Big East foe at 8pm, enjoying a couple of craft malt beverages. Seems like old times even. Hopefully the result will remind us of many of the those Big East Saturday nights of the past as well.

** Of course, I wouldn’t be upset about that at all!
It's clear why we've taken a recent downturn. After the Duke win, you were effusive in your praise for the Panthers. Obviously, you jinxed us.
 
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Ithiel Horton's ACC only stats through 7 Games

ORTG Offensive Power Rating: 106.3
11 PPG
3 rebounds per game
2 assists per game
41% FG Percentage
37.5% 3 point percentage
83% free throw percentage

This is starting to look quite good for a sophomore.


Femi Odukale

ORTG: 86.1
7.1 points per game
3 rebounds per game
2.3 assists per game
46.5% FG percentage
25% 3 point shooting
31% Free Throw

Besides the shooting percentage from 3 and the line, Femi has Levance Fields beat in points, boards, and assists as a freshmen to freshmen comparison. His defense is far better than Levance at the same stage. Femi's Shooting % will go up big time after the broken arm has a full year to recover, starting next year. Im quite pleased with his ACC play all things considered and I must ask myself "what if" he didn't collide with the car before the season started screwing up his arm.


I only have 2 other things to add here.

-Pitt has lost the last 2 games and Xavier Johnson has taken the "most" shots combined the last 2 games. With the way Champ is shooting (Horton too) that is almost silly that Johnson leads the team with the most shot attempts.

-AKC was a net positive in this game in the box score efficiency metrics along with Champ and Horton. It was Brown that crushed this team for the 2nd game in a row with the biggest net negative. AKC's overall play is still very undervalued.


The importance of both Efton Reid and a potential Mady Troare reclass cant be understated. We massively need both.
Interesting “what if” for sure.
 
It's clear why we've taken a recent downturn. After the Duke win, you were effusive in your praise for the Panthers. Obviously, you jinxed us.
Indeed ... sorry about that.
 
Ithiel Horton's ACC only stats through 7 Games

ORTG Offensive Power Rating: 106.3
11 PPG
3 rebounds per game
2 assists per game
41% FG Percentage
37.5% 3 point percentage
83% free throw percentage

This is starting to look quite good for a sophomore.


Femi Odukale

ORTG: 86.1
7.1 points per game
3 rebounds per game
2.3 assists per game
46.5% FG percentage
25% 3 point shooting
31% Free Throw

Besides the shooting percentage from 3 and the line, Femi has Levance Fields beat in points, boards, and assists as a freshmen to freshmen comparison. His defense is far better than Levance at the same stage. Femi's Shooting % will go up big time after the broken arm has a full year to recover, starting next year. Im quite pleased with his ACC play all things considered and I must ask myself "what if" he didn't collide with the car before the season started screwing up his arm.


I only have 2 other things to add here.

-Pitt has lost the last 2 games and Xavier Johnson has taken the "most" shots combined the last 2 games. With the way Champ is shooting (Horton too) that is almost silly that Johnson leads the team with the most shot attempts.

-AKC was a net positive in this game in the box score efficiency metrics along with Champ and Horton. It was Brown that crushed this team for the 2nd game in a row with the biggest net negative. AKC's overall play is still very undervalued.


The importance of both Efton Reid and a potential Mady Troare reclass cant be understated. We massively need both.
I would keep X and Horton starting. I would sub Femi and Nike for both together,

If Horton is off I would sub Nike for him. I think Femi has been getting most of those minutes.

Femi needs to go in for X as soon as X starts dominating the ball.
 
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I would keep X and Horton starting. I would sub Femi and Nike for both together,

If Horton is off I would sub Nike for him. I think Femi has been getting most of those minutes.

Femi needs to go in for X as soon as X starts dominating the ball.
And X needs to stop taking all those shots. He's not a good shooter.
 
** There’s only one reason I’m really upset with today’s loss. That reason is that we lost to Wake Forest on Saturday.

** This wasn’t a bad effort against the Tar Heels tonight. It wasn’t our best by any means, and is perhaps most appropriately described as inconsistent.

** I have no problem conceding that UNC is far superior to our Panthers in the paint. We simply had no answer to the question of how to stop the post up and score.

** But we did plenty of good things too, and didn’t let the Heels run and hide.

** So in many ways, this loss would barely bother me at all if our record before the game had been 5-1 instead of 4-2. It shouldn’t be seen as unreasonable loss. But after the L at Wake, it’s big missed opportunity for a team with the need to stack wins on their way to March.

** And therefore, we are stuck trying to figure out what went wrong with this one.

** There was nothing wrong with Justin, at least not on the offensive end anyway. With his 4-5 shots from three point land, he’s now bombing away at 41% from deep, not to mention 55% from the floor.

** The only problem I can offer about Justin’s offense is that the Panthers only found a way to get him 9 shots. Of course, much of that has to do with the UNC defense, but a little too much of it has to do with the wrong guy, taking the wrong shot, too early.

** Ithiel was guilty of forcing a few too many shots perhaps, but overall I like how he was hunting his offense. The Panthers need him to score for them to be their best.

** Xaiver had his share of the forced drives we come to hate as much as anything we see with Pitt Hoops these days. Otherwise, I do think he effectively created offense at times, even if he’s just not the shooter we’d like him to be.

** But while we are lamenting Xavier (some of it deserved of course), we simply can’t forget that he leads the ACC in assists by a large margin, while he’s among the leaders in assist to turnovers. I’m not using this information to defend X’s errors per se, but instead to remind us that it’s not as if everyone else is so much better at the point than our guy. They make mistakes too, and don't always do as many good things as X.

** While I’ll never blame the guy for a loss, this was certainly a game where a few more points from Au’Diese would have gone a long way. Instead, this was a game where he was simply unable to get into his offense in an important way. Or in other words, he didn’t hit a jump shot.

** AKC is trying to assert himself on offense a little more, which at times is helping the team, and at others leaves himself in a place of trying to do a little more than he capable of. But I will forgive AKC, because he’s all the Panthers have at the five.

** But hey, we shot 77% from the line and outscored them at the stripe 13-7 (and UNC shot 50%) so one would figure we would have won this one, yes?

** All of this offensive talk probably misses the point though. The Panthers lost this one because of the two things which allowed them to pull off two impressive wins against the Orange and another against the Blue Devils – defense and rebounding.

** Rebounding efforts like we watched tonight had become pretty commonplace over the past few seasons, but the Panthers inability to clear the defensive glass stuck out this season like a very sore thumb. And plain and simply for my money, it’s the biggest reason we lost.

** The first three offensive rebounds gathered by UNC looked like bounces to the wrong spot. The last 11 looked like really bad effort. I could pick out a few of the worst offenders, but let’s just put this on the whole team.

** And of course, we were powerless to stop UNC in the paint. I will give AKC a pass, because he was able to battle his man well before shots went up. But he was often left powerless on second chances.

** While I don’t think numbers tell every story, I wasn’t surprised that Au’Diese and Justin were -13 and -14 respectively. It may not have been an effort problem leading to Toney only getting 2 boards, but our success depends on many more rebounds from him.

** One small positive note was watching Femi on the same court as RJ Davis. There’s no doubt Femi was a definite plan B after the hard recruiting loss that was Davis. But the difference between the two may not be nearly what their recruiting numbers might suggest it would be.

** A game against the Irish gives our Panthers a much needed opportunity to put these two losses behind them and get back on the track of where we would like them to be.

** One of the things I really miss about the Big East are the Saturday night games. Many more ACC games start at noon on Sat, or even take place the next day.

** So I’m looking forward to watching this one against a former Big East foe at 8pm, enjoying a couple of craft malt beverages. Seems like old times even. Hopefully the result will remind us of many of the those Big East Saturday nights of the past as well.

** Of course, I wouldn’t be upset about that at all!

I cant remember the last time a team scored that many points in the paint against us. Perhaps during the 0-19 year but I blacked that out so Im not sure. I mean teams dont play like UNC does and we've generally been good on D for like 2 decades now so I wouldn't be surprised if we had to go back to pre-Howland....if anyone even keeps that official stat.
 
Anybody else see X dribbling into that elbow jumper against UNC and know with 100% certainty that he would make it--only because he just missed the same shot at the end of the WF game? Of course you did!

The basketball gods will not be mocked, but that doesn't mean they're without a sense of humor.
 
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I can't believe you didn't mention how awful Terrell Brown was. Would have liked you to opine on what to do about him moving forward. More Max? I mean it wasn't a coincidence that North Carolina was much more dominant when he wad on the court. I've seen enough of Terrell Brown.
Yes, Brown was basically nonexistent, which I thought was really the first time not having Hugley really played out.
 
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North Carolina bigs just kept backing the Pitt players down into the paint. They were to strong for the defense. Pitt should have fronted the big guys more. The baby hook shot was a killer one drop step and it was two . Pitt doesn't bang to much underneath need to get stronger centers. The trap that Johnson tried a couple ties was to slow and nobody rotated leaving a wide open three.
 
One thing I did like about Horton, he is no longer just cruising beyond the 3 point line. He is at least driving for pull up jumpers, which shows he is getting more confidence and adjusting to the ACC speed.

One other thing, and this is just a bit whiny I guess, but last night, so many of our shots, mostly layups and short jumpers would go like this.....clank, clank, clank, fall out of the cylinder into the UNC player's hand for a rebound. While UNC had so many shots go, clank, clank, clank and then in. Our shots would bounce around the rim for 2 or 3 times and go out, their's would do the same and go in.

I know this isn't brilliant analytics nor basketball lexicon but it is what happened alot.
 
One thing I did like about Horton, he is no longer just cruising beyond the 3 point line. He is at least driving for pull up jumpers, which shows he is getting more confidence and adjusting to the ACC speed.

One other thing, and this is just a bit whiny I guess, but last night, so many of our shots, mostly layups and short jumpers would go like this.....clank, clank, clank, fall out of the cylinder into the UNC player's hand for a rebound. While UNC had so many shots go, clank, clank, clank and then in. Our shots would bounce around the rim for 2 or 3 times and go out, their's would do the same and go in.

I know this isn't brilliant analytics nor basketball lexicon but it is what happened alot.

It did seem to happen a lot, or at least I thought so too.
 
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One thing I did like about Horton, he is no longer just cruising beyond the 3 point line. He is at least driving for pull up jumpers, which shows he is getting more confidence and adjusting to the ACC speed.

One other thing, and this is just a bit whiny I guess, but last night, so many of our shots, mostly layups and short jumpers would go like this.....clank, clank, clank, fall out of the cylinder into the UNC player's hand for a rebound. While UNC had so many shots go, clank, clank, clank and then in. Our shots would bounce around the rim for 2 or 3 times and go out, their's would do the same and go in.

I know this isn't brilliant analytics nor basketball lexicon but it is what happened alot.
Difference between touch and just throwing it up there for fear of getting blocked. Confidence vs. rushing. Probably some talent thrown in there too!
 
The futility of the night on the glass was summed up in the 2H when UNC missed all 4 FT attempts on 2 separate shooting fouls but got offensive rebounds off the 2nd miss on both occasions and scored FG’s. So they got the 4 points back anyways. Plays like that are absolute killers.

I knew that for Pitt to have a chance vs the size, talent and depth of the Heels front court that Pitt would likely have to shoot lights out. Something on the order of what WF did to Pitt. And Pitt did shoot 40% from 3 (6-15). But of course WF made 15-33 vs Pitt. Pitt looked to miss several interior chances due to have attempts altered and effected by UNC’s size inside.

The way Pitt is structured right now they really need to consistently get the big 3 to hit their scoring averages. Last night AT and X combined for only 15 points. Adding Champs 23 the 3 of them combined for 38. At WF the big 3 combined for 42, still beneath their combined averages. That’s a lot of pressure on those 3. But unless/until others show the ability to consistently pick up the slack, it’s necessary.

So if that happens, the ancillary scoring really has to pick up to make up for the additional points. AKC helped at WF. IH helped last night. But it just wasn’t enough.
 
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** There’s only one reason I’m really upset with today’s loss. That reason is that we lost to Wake Forest on Saturday.

** This wasn’t a bad effort against the Tar Heels tonight. It wasn’t our best by any means, and is perhaps most appropriately described as inconsistent.

** I have no problem conceding that UNC is far superior to our Panthers in the paint. We simply had no answer to the question of how to stop the post up and score.

** But we did plenty of good things too, and didn’t let the Heels run and hide.

** So in many ways, this loss would barely bother me at all if our record before the game had been 5-1 instead of 4-2. It shouldn’t be seen as unreasonable loss. But after the L at Wake, it’s big missed opportunity for a team with the need to stack wins on their way to March.

** And therefore, we are stuck trying to figure out what went wrong with this one.

** There was nothing wrong with Justin, at least not on the offensive end anyway. With his 4-5 shots from three point land, he’s now bombing away at 41% from deep, not to mention 55% from the floor.

** The only problem I can offer about Justin’s offense is that the Panthers only found a way to get him 9 shots. Of course, much of that has to do with the UNC defense, but a little too much of it has to do with the wrong guy, taking the wrong shot, too early.

** Ithiel was guilty of forcing a few too many shots perhaps, but overall I like how he was hunting his offense. The Panthers need him to score for them to be their best.

** Xaiver had his share of the forced drives we come to hate as much as anything we see with Pitt Hoops these days. Otherwise, I do think he effectively created offense at times, even if he’s just not the shooter we’d like him to be.

** But while we are lamenting Xavier (some of it deserved of course), we simply can’t forget that he leads the ACC in assists by a large margin, while he’s among the leaders in assist to turnovers. I’m not using this information to defend X’s errors per se, but instead to remind us that it’s not as if everyone else is so much better at the point than our guy. They make mistakes too, and don't always do as many good things as X.

** While I’ll never blame the guy for a loss, this was certainly a game where a few more points from Au’Diese would have gone a long way. Instead, this was a game where he was simply unable to get into his offense in an important way. Or in other words, he didn’t hit a jump shot.

** AKC is trying to assert himself on offense a little more, which at times is helping the team, and at others leaves himself in a place of trying to do a little more than he capable of. But I will forgive AKC, because he’s all the Panthers have at the five.

** But hey, we shot 77% from the line and outscored them at the stripe 13-7 (and UNC shot 50%) so one would figure we would have won this one, yes?

** All of this offensive talk probably misses the point though. The Panthers lost this one because of the two things which allowed them to pull off two impressive wins against the Orange and another against the Blue Devils – defense and rebounding.

** Rebounding efforts like we watched tonight had become pretty commonplace over the past few seasons, but the Panthers inability to clear the defensive glass stuck out this season like a very sore thumb. And plain and simply for my money, it’s the biggest reason we lost.

** The first three offensive rebounds gathered by UNC looked like bounces to the wrong spot. The last 11 looked like really bad effort. I could pick out a few of the worst offenders, but let’s just put this on the whole team.

** And of course, we were powerless to stop UNC in the paint. I will give AKC a pass, because he was able to battle his man well before shots went up. But he was often left powerless on second chances.

** While I don’t think numbers tell every story, I wasn’t surprised that Au’Diese and Justin were -13 and -14 respectively. It may not have been an effort problem leading to Toney only getting 2 boards, but our success depends on many more rebounds from him.

** One small positive note was watching Femi on the same court as RJ Davis. There’s no doubt Femi was a definite plan B after the hard recruiting loss that was Davis. But the difference between the two may not be nearly what their recruiting numbers might suggest it would be.

** A game against the Irish gives our Panthers a much needed opportunity to put these two losses behind them and get back on the track of where we would like them to be.

** One of the things I really miss about the Big East are the Saturday night games. Many more ACC games start at noon on Sat, or even take place the next day.

** So I’m looking forward to watching this one against a former Big East foe at 8pm, enjoying a couple of craft malt beverages. Seems like old times even. Hopefully the result will remind us of many of the those Big East Saturday nights of the past as well.

** Of course, I wouldn’t be upset about that at all!
I totally agree that this loss hurts most because of the wake game. There is no shame in losing to unc who is a matchup nightmare for us and a talented team that is hitting its stride.
 
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Pitt has lost the last 2 games and Xavier Johnson has taken the "most" shots combined the last 2 games. With the way Champ is shooting (Horton too) that is almost silly that Johnson leads the team with the most shot attempts.


In those two games Horton is 5-16 from the field and 2-7 on threes. Yeah, Johnson is shooting the ball too much, but perhaps part of the reason for that is that Horton has been so hit or miss shooting the ball.
 
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