Hopefully Pitt gets linked to some solid grad transfer types soon.
Vader Recruiting- Capel strikes Gold with 2020 recruiting class
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I would say playing in the gray area. Cheating means breaking rules and policies and there just aren't enough and they are explicit enough to cover all the loopholes and gray areas especially in AAU and Circuits that handlers can navigate on behalf of the coaching staffs. It's impossible to regulate everything including texts and how money is given directly to families and players by coaches and boosters through intermediaries.
No, I do believe there are some honest coaches. I think that’s part of what made Belein leave the college game. But it’s naive to think he’s the first head coach in ncaa history who actually DIDNT know what his assistants are doing. And if he is, he shouldn’t be in a HC position.
No one has their head in the clouds here. It would be insanely stupid not to recognize things go on in college sports. Love to see your evidence that he was the Bagman as you say. Surely, everyone who lost out on Zion and Bagley etc. has clear motive to plant that kind of story.
So Zion was offered 100k to go to Kansas but went to Duke for free? Cmon.
Interesting. I’ve never heard that about Beilein’s assistants. Maybe he was thinking beat the posse before NCAA comes after him!
Duke has been getting elite recruits for the last 35+ years under Coach K. Before, during, and after Capel was a coach there. What about the Duke kid from NJ that got busted with the jewelry? That happened awhile ago.
I think it was gary2 who posted his name a few weeks ago as someone Pitt should go after.
At a glance, he seems like he has better shooting numbers than Murphy but has also demonstrated some more ability to play the point. I’d be into it as a grad transfer.
At a glance, he seems like he has better shooting numbers than Murphy but has also demonstrated some more ability to play the point. I’d be into it as a grad transfer.
It took Valentine a couple of years to become an impact player. Of course he played on a pretty loaded team so he didn't have much opportunity to contribute early--he was a classic Izzo 4-year developmental player who went from 1.5 ppg as a freshman to 1st team All-American as a senior.
He's 2 years away from taking the floor at the Pete. I think the focus of the thread is on the guys who will be playing for Pitt next year.
So you're keeping youre expectaiotns low for him.
McGowens has the talent to blow up in the right program. He has an impressive list of interested suitors already.
Barry, a 6-2 guard, had a 45.2% 3 point shooting accuracy heading into senior year. He didn't play as a senior due to a season-ending hip injury suffered last September.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4066823/brendan-barry
Three very nice shooting years.
Just things I heard. Not saying they were cheating. But to say they didn't operate at all in the grey isn't accurate.
Fair question. The whole post is about the 2020 class and then he throws an 9th grader's name in at the end. I didn't even notice that until you pointed it out. You got me.
And you seem to think yours does too. Let's factor in what he was recruiting to when he took over. This wasn't a top 20 program. It was closer to a bottom 20 program.
Plays in the largest division in Ohio. Cleveland league that is solid. Made a nice play-off run losing by a point to a very good team. He played good competition.
Lol. They weren’t close to a bottom 20 program. Last years class was subpar full of misses and busts outside of Champagnie. And hopefully Drumgoole but he looked too stiff for the ACc in his limited time imo. Coulaliby could give some minutes off the bench. But Murphy and Hamilton were busts and his biggest coup so far is transferring.
You guys can say I’m wrong or I hate capel or whatever else but it doesn’t change reality
Lol seriously. Setting expectations low for Horton at 15-17 ppg. I chuckled
Their 0-19 AAC record may have not been bottom 20 but it wasn't far from it. Capel is just now getting out from under that perception. In fact this thread is so long I really don't know what you are saying. If you are saying we won't know what we have until we start playing then I am in full agreement.
Hugley stats vs Top teams
Loraine- 24 points, 18 rebounds, 4 assists
St. Edwards-19 points, 15 rebounds, 3 assists
Cleveland Heights-32 points, 13 rebounds, 3 assists
First Love-16 points, 11 rebounds
St. Mary-St. Vincent- 21 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists
Cleveland Heights (Playoffs) -16 points, 15 rebounds, 4 assists
Mentor (Finals) -35 points, 15 rebounds, 3 assists
Bulk of the stats are from Chet Mason(high school basketball coach), and reporters from Cleveland.com, Nates Barnes, Matt Goul and the News-Herald and a few other resources. A lot of the bad teams the game was over before halftime or earlier. The 2 toughest teams on the schedule were St. Edwards and St. Mary-St. Vincent followed by Mentor in the playoffs.
His best game was against Mentor for the Title with his 35 points 15 board herculean effort. His team lost by 2 in the Finals. Bob Krizancic, Mentor’s Coach, said Hugley was the 2nd toughest player he faced in his career after that game. Lebron James was #1. Bob has coached for 38 years and has over 600 wins.
For the person asking me about Gallagher and why I mentioned him. Rodney is a 5 Star Guard and a Pitt lean at this time. He is the highest rated player on our board regardless of class at this time. Generally speaking I don’t like taking about recruits multiple years out because so much can change and players develop at different rates.
Rodney Gallagher is an exception because he is a very rare Elite basketball talent that is likely playing at Pitt. From what I understand Jeff Capel has offered a total of 3 freshmen basketball players total in his entire career. Gallagher is the 3rd and Im surprised the offer didn’t “officially” come earlier. He is a massive talent.
You’ve suggested in other posts that Drumgoole is much better than you’re letting on here but it fits your argument to trash him so you did the opposite in this post.
I had high hopes for him. He could still be a designated shooter. I think he needs to lose some weight and or loosen his hips more to be a solid player.
If he can turn into a 3 and D guy he’ll be a solid contributor. If his hips can’t let him guard his position at a decent rate he’ll stay and play.
There are levels between they suck and they’re great. Being critical of someone is in that area.
I reread what I wrote. Hopefully, and he may be too stiff. Holy cats! What a terrible analysis to jump all over me about!
That doesn't seem consistent with what has been posted in this thread. There was some higher level competition but there were a lot of bad teams in which he didn't play the 4th quarter. And against the 2 best teams he didnt do enough to keep it close.
It can be both. For a public school, their strength of schedule sounds pretty good - probably better than any team in the WPIAL and probably better than Jeffress’. It just doesn’t compare to the private or prep school schedules that Collier, Amadasun, or Odukale played against.
Doesn’t mean ass’ts were involved. Cheating is common, and I agree that Zion prob didn’t go to Duke for free, but the cheating could be ‘networked’ in other ways. I don’t think Heather in her infancy of this job, would chance hiring a ‘bagman’. And, I’m sure he was thoroughly vetted.
He failed to get to 20 pts in 3 of the 7 games and had 21 and 24 in the other games. I have no idea how many shots he had to take to score those points. Hugley will be good but those points at his size as well as his AAU stats don't tell me he in a top 40 immediate impact player coming in.
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