pittdan77
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That is my memory of it. And all three of those teams had opportunities to succeed with those guys. Results definitely varied.
Remember when Ryan Leaf was a sure thing? Very few certainties.
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Remember when Ryan Leaf was a sure thing? Very few certainties.
OK, I didnt want to say that because it can become an all-time bad take but I certainly wouldn't have thought there was much difference between Jurkovec and Levis. And the one is a Top 5 QB and the other was told he wouldn't be drafted
Way better, actually. Josh Allen checks almost none of the boxes (only the physical stuff and single season rushing from the production side). I thought he was a huge joke as a top 10 selection and so did pretty much everyone else. It's totally unprecedented to come as far as he has. Even Lamar Jackson - who people said should play RB - was significantly further along as a prospect.
pittdan77
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There is so much of this going on now. I don't give Tomlin credit for much anymore but they played the Willis thing very well. Had a lot of people fooled.
The Levis and Allen college comparisons aren’t entirely fair.
As I noted above, Kentucky has had one season under Stoops where their offense even graded out as a top 50 offense.
That was in 2021 under Liam Coen. Levis graded out with a 90 ranking that year according to PFF. Which is elite QB play.
Coen leaves after 2021, Kentucky’s offense reverts back to where it always has been under Mark “The Destroyer of Offenses”Stoops, and Levi’s’ play suffers as well.
You aren’t really banking on pure physical tools with Levis, as you did with Josh Allen.
What you’re really banking on is he is the elite college player he was in ‘21 under competent offensive direction. Which isn’t as much of a gamble as, “this guy has never shown to be an elite player. But man does he look good in shorts.”
As I noted above, Kentucky has had one season under Stoops where their offense even graded out as a top 50 offense.
That was in 2021 under Liam Coen. Levis graded out with a 90 ranking that year according to PFF. Which is elite QB play.
Coen leaves after 2021, Kentucky’s offense reverts back to where it always has been under Mark “The Destroyer of Offenses”Stoops, and Levi’s’ play suffers as well.
You aren’t really banking on pure physical tools with Levis, as you did with Josh Allen.
What you’re really banking on is he is the elite college player he was in ‘21 under competent offensive direction. Which isn’t as much of a gamble as, “this guy has never shown to be an elite player. But man does he look good in shorts.”
Maybe he can be like the guy at New Orleans - Hill - for one year they kind of did that at pen state
Agree the counter point would be Levis has all the physical tools required to be a elite QB. He wasn't very good in college but Allen wasn't really either. Someone is going to see the raw tools and try to make a QB out of him
I would bet Levis will much higher than Willis. He is bigger version of Willis. I also think he is a slightly better QB right now.
I see it that way, too. It's not the way that I would draft a QB - just think it's such a difficult position to evaluate already - but I get that's what is going to happen. I'm totally fine taking a hyper athlete and trying to teach them an easier position like RB (Antonio Gibson) or DL, but QB it's just such a hard position and there's a big jump between college and NFL competition.
Of course, that doesn't mean Levis is off my draft board. He isn't by any stretch. I just wouldn't take him in the top 5 given his tools-only profile.
