Well that is one way to looking at it. Another is, these kids high ranking and regards are obviously justified.
Alabama in Pittsburgh yesterday, offered Ford, Wade and met with
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Well that is one way to looking at it. Another is, these kids high ranking and regards are obviously justified.
Georgia, LSU, and USC each had six Pro Bowlers in 2016 alone. So there goes that theory I guess.
-Thats not even true. There you go. I had to check twice because I cant believe Andy Lee didnt make it.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...most-represented-on-2015-nfl-pro-bowl-rosters
Unless you're the second coming of Wilt Chamberlain, how many do you need?
If you're a stud football player, any major university's campus can provide what you want.
Georgia - Gurley, AJ Green, Geno Atkins, Thomas Davis, Justin Houston, Reshad Jones
LSU - OBJ, Jarvis Landry, Mathieu, Patrick Peterson, Trai Turner, Andrew Whitworth
USC - Jurrel Casey, Carson Palmer, Everson Griffen, Ryan Kahlil, Tyron Smith, Clay Matthews.
Count to six.
Now it makes sense, replacement players for scratches. Heh.
On January 14, Griffen was picked to take the place of Houston's defensive end J. J. Watt in the 2016 NFL Pro Bowl, marking his first career invitation to the annual showcase game in Hawaii.
After reading only page one - a simple thought...
...When Captain Sidney is passing the torch to you, you're doing it wrong.
Glad to be of help.
...When Captain Sidney is passing the torch to you, you're doing it wrong.
Glad to be of help.
did they de-emphasize it prior to 1976 as well, because from 1940-1976 we were not very good either.
Pitt's record From
1940 to 1975 145-198-11
1976 to 1982 71-12-1
1983-Current 196-190-6
So in the past 76 years, Pitt was 71-12-1 for 6 of the years and 341-388-17 in the other 70 years. I'm not saying we can't be great again, but the 6 year stretch of greatness was the exception not the norm.
I just think arguing with an Alabama fan regarding football is just insane at this point. There is not one of us that would not trade spots with them right now. We can talk about our 9 national championships all we want, but how many of us have actually seen Pitt win one? 8 occurred prior to 1937. They are living and breathing the success right now.
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Although recruits talk about winning championships their main interest is playing in the NFL and making bank!
PITT offers that route without having to beat out multiple high school All Americans at your position for playing time.
PITT offers that route without having to beat out multiple high school All Americans at your position for playing time.
And what good does that validation do Pitt if they end up going to Bama?
That would not be a winning argument for Pitt or this staff (yet) against almost any school. Go ahead and do the average professional earnings of any year of Pitt's 85 man roster (or recruiting class) and see where it ranks vs the schools which are being mentioned.
Recent article ranked Pitt 13th out of 14 in the ACC for producing NFL talent
http://collegefootballnews.com/2016/ranking-acc-football-programs-as-nfl-draft-factories
13. Pitt
Last Four Years: 4
Last Ten Years: 23
It’s been a bit light lately for a program used to cranking out high-level NFL talents like Aaron Donald, LeSean McCoy, Darrelle Revis and Larry Fitzgerald.
As bad as things have been recently, there’s still a tremendous recent tradition of sending wide receivers and tight ends to the next level, and the defensive backs and linemen have been okay, too. It’s a far cry from the old days when the Panthers had 24 players taken from 1981 to 1983, but head coach Pat Narduzzi should change that soon.
-There is a difference between getting drafted then getting cut, as opposed to dominating the league in Pro Bowls. Articles like these suck. But if the point is to show pitt has put the least amount of players in based off 7th round draft picks, so be it.
And the question is ..... what do Nick Saben and George Costanza have in common?
Those aren't their results and many, many programs have better recent results of their own. You are quoting a handful of players from previous regimes. What are the earnings per roster or recruiting scholarship? It is the Virginia College approach: "We have these 10 people who have done really, really well!!!" (Please disregard the other 99,990 who pissed away money).
Actually a great example is a couple of schools/colleges who caught caught fudging their "starting salary" info for graduates. Alabama's marketing program got caught doing this when Shaun Alexander was drafted. Their average starting salary jumped up like $80k from the previous year because they counted Alexander's first round money as a marketing program graduate the same as some girl who is getting bagels at a PR firm.
i thought SMF was clearly the stupidest member of PL, but Steel has taken be crown.
Protip, dude. Nobody cares about great Pitt players who wore the blue and gold decades before the current recruiting class was even born. Bama is superior in every conceivable way for the people who actually matter: the recruits.
Sit down and shut up.
Protip, dude. Nobody cares about great Pitt players who wore the blue and gold decades before the current recruiting class was even born. Bama is superior in every conceivable way for the people who actually matter: the recruits.
Sit down and shut up.
-They can have him. Feels good to have new blood in here. Lets go Narduzzi and Stallings
-They can have him. Feels good to have new blood in here. Lets go Narduzzi and Stallings
This has nothing to do with my post. What a pathetic attempt at deflecting. Nice try. Just admit you are making a terrible argument.
I think Mr Foster would be much more content preparing for the upcoming NFL draft instead of going into "do or die time" as Bama's no2 WR....(at best)
Why do u spend so much time on Pitt sports message boards when u degrade and minimize Pitt athletics?
-Within about 6 years, maybe 7, Pitt will be #1 in the NFL hall of fame. And will have double the amount of players in the NFL hall of fame over Alabama.
Who cares? NFL production is irrelevant. How many top 25 finishes has that meant for Pitt.
Answer truthfully: over the last decade would you rather be Pitt or Bama?
-Well, you are an idiot. Because Pitt is tied for 4th right in the NFL hall players. And like I said, will be a runaway #1 in another 6-7 years.
-Do you want to win or do you want to be a punching bag in college football for Duke, Akron, and Marshall? Answer truthfully. Stand up like a man for the program you represent already. At all costs.
I want to win. You know, like Alabama. Now answer my question. And don't keep trotting out a bunch of good players from the 70s. They are meaningless.
-I want to compete for a National Title. That's what I want to do. And I think Narduzzi, if he keeps recruiting well enough, we will challenge for one.
-If I wanted to continue to talk about the past Id talk about the last 6 coaches at Pitt that sucked. The Todd Graham's of the world.
-We had a coach last year that beat everyones preseason expectations across the board. EVERYONES. For the first time in forever, a Pitt Coach beat expectations.
-Yet some of you cant rally behind him. Congrats to Alabama for the last 10 years of dominance. Im looking forward to this season and what the next 10 years and what lies ahead.
Exactly. Selling "the pros" to players is about what the current staff can do, not what players from other eras under other staffs did in the NFL. Also, let's not misunderstand the argument even with that known. This is about ROI for the players and this staff cannot even begin to compete with places like LSU, Alabama, etc. in that regard. Hopefully they will one day, but it is a long way off.
-Obviously you are a Jamie Dixon salesmen in this world. The argument won Paris Ford over, Championship or Bust.
Seriously, you are off the rails.
Absolutely no difference between people like you and the Joebots. Same exact mold. Only difference is the colors.
-Off the rails about what? You see the talent Pitt brought in last year with Narduzzi? I dont care about star rankings, I care about offer lists in college football, this isnt college basketball. We constantly beat out Powerhouse schools for big time recruits last year. The results will be proven on the field. You want to see what some of Penn State's flash star ranking players look like? Have a look. And then they wonder why all their Top 25 recruiting classes couldnt stop Temple from blowing them out.
there is no question that there is something to be said for being the big fish in a little pond. Who knows what foster would have done here but I would think he would have at least started by now and would either be preparing for the draft or his senior season. If he was a first round talent its likely he would be starting at Bama by now. Its the guys who are a little off that level 5th round types that can get stuck behind studs at places like Bama and never get a chance where at Pitt,wvu,PSU etc they would have been 3 year starters. Problem is most 4 star or better recruits think they are future first rounders and will start anywhere they go.
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