Yeah...people act like Harsin was some bum before he got to Auburn.
Allen Greene new AD
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Like you mentioned, if no new money or the donors, fans and alumn don’t step up giving, I think then this will turn to a cost cutting focus.
There was just an article on the yahoo sight from Ross Dillinger, with a quote from the Texas ad about how some schools that are already subsidizing sports in the millions are going to get another $20 m expense, and he wonders how many schools are just going to say “is this worth it?”
Pitt imo is in that boat
It’s not me who cried DEI when a non-white male is hired .
Its him . Tell it to Zelda
I’m happy to point out his bias
More impressive is that Moses’ playbook is still used today. He was heavy on the ground game and defense with all the thou shall nots. A little like Wannstedt.
Pitt, and most of these schools, have the money. They have piles of money but only the most football focused are going to throw that money at sports. And I don't blame them. They're schools, not pro sports franchises.
First off, they aren't categorized as "handling fees." They are categorized as "Application Fees" or "order charges", which are $15 per order of season tickets for football and men's basketball. "Delivery Fees" are now reduced to $0.00.
LOL, let me translate yourself for you:
"I'm been a fan for a while, so I am entitled to have fees waived that exist at every ticketing outlet in America. Also, the college branded merchandise I want costs more than I'd like and I've never looked at a price tag at another team store in America."
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Actually, the Steelers are giving STHs 20% off in-store purchases at the Acrisure Pro Shop. One-time use though.
Most schools, including Pitt, do not have piles of money sitting around. This notion is pure BS.
Because a very large entity also has large amounts of revenue, does not mean it has a bunch of unused money sitting around going unused. The institutions are very large and very complex, with many, many internal and external constituents continually lobbying for more resources for their particular discipline or cause. If you are a department chair in economics, then you are heckling your dean for more money for something undoubtedly worthwhile for your discipline. That dean in turn heckles the provost, who heckles the chancellor or board. What are you advocating for as an alumni? What are you saying, with your communications, or really, your donations, as far as what the priorities of the school should be?
Outside of fundraising, there is really only two ways new money can be freed up...by making cuts or raising tuition. And I think anyone can see where doing either is fraught with potential consequences.
And Pitt athletics gives a 15% discount on any Pitt affiliated store (Maggie and Stellas, The University Store, ShopPittPanthers.com and Team Stores at Acrisure Stadium and Petersen Events Center) used an unlimited number of times to anyone willing to give a minimum $50 donation to the Panther Club.
On the phone they called them "handling fees"
As for your translation, yeah, sure thing.
I forgot, Pitt has the most well-run athletics department in the country, and has been for over 50 years. We are impeccably run.
I was going to say, I get a discount at Pitt stores with my panther club membership.
I don’t think he or anyone is saying they are impeccably run. What he is saying, or at least what I am saying is you’re going to find warts in any athletic department in America, it’s just not a Pitt thing. And then as we are talking about how cheap Pitt fans are with giving compared to our peers in similar situations, you come in and want money given to you in order to support. Obviously you don’t donate or you would have known that your panther club membership gives you a discount at Pitt stores.
Yep. 95% of coaching hires are a crapshoot. That's something that Pitt fans who scream for coaching changes always forget.
Right you are! Four club seats for football. Six basketball seats since years at Fitzgerald back into the 1970s.
We've been Golden Panther/Panther Club members since its inception and even had Heddleston steal some of our money.
Attend all away football games, 29 consecutive Big East Tournaments but, yeah, we don't donate a thing.
I'm done with this.
Pitt is the most awesome well-run athletic department in history. Just ask them.
When Greene took over at Auburn, Bruce Pearl was already the basketball coach. I am not a big MBB guy, but even i knew / read Pearl can be rather slippery.
Perhaps a little more than just slippery?
Point being, Greene knew what type of coach he was (is), and kept him around
FWIW
Perhaps a little more than just slippery?
Point being, Greene knew what type of coach he was (is), and kept him around
FWIW
Harsin was 69-19 at Boise.
Auburn is extremely dysfunctional. Kudos to Greene for having the balls to provide actual leadership with landing the Harsin hire instead of rubber stamp everything some monied boosters want and demand. Harsin never had a chance at Auburn. They were harassing him from all angles, internally/externally, investigating etc. The guy never had a chance.
I respect Greene for at least trying to fight boosters for a respectable hire instead of rubber stamping some booster anointed 60 year-old with career head coaching record of 9-37 overall and 1-31 in the Big 12. Because Kevin Steele is exactly who they pushed Malzahn out to hire.
Hey strawman, no one said Pitt has always been well run the last 50 years or that you didn't donate or buy tickets, but I will call out your lunacy for complaining about $15 season ticket service charges and gear being not as cheap as you want as if you live in some sort of bizzaro bubble where such things are absolutely normal at every single university in America, let alone any major (or even most minor) sports team in America. Of all the things to feel you have had the anthropomorphized university "stick it to you" about, those are about the stupidest things one could focus on. How about losing 13 bowl tickets that were neither delivered nor made available for onsite pickup? Did the handling fee make that service better before electronic ticketing?
And yes, I have my Golden Panther pin as well. It entitles me to jack shit.
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All coaches that win at a high level break the hell out of the rules. Obviously they can do things now that weren't permitted a few years ago.
The NCAA stuff at Tennessee regarding Pearl was pretty much nothing until he lied to NCAA investigators. But most schools would try to protect their coach in that situation. Tennessee pretty much knifed him in the back.
It was other things that the admin didn't like about the program that was his real undoing at Tennessee. (mainly the drugs and guns)
I think it signals positive, as in the change in AD was made with an idea and plan in place and they went out and completed the search and selection without much hiccup.
Seems like a solid hire on paper. The proof will be in the pudding.
Narduzzi's thoughts, for those who didn't see the articles yet:
triblive.com
www.post-gazette.com
Pitt names veteran big-school administrator Allen Greene as its next AD
Pat Narduzzi wasn’t on the search committee, and he said he did not have input into Allen Greene becoming Pitt’s next athletic director — his next boss. But when the Pitt head coach sits down with Greene in the coming days, it will be a getting reacquainted meeting — not
triblive.com
Pat Narduzzi praises Pitt's 'slam dunk' athletic director hire, embraces ever-changing NIL landscape
Pitt head coach Pat Narduzzi rang in the unofficial start of Syracuse week at the UPMC Rooney Sports Complex on Friday, but before he could discuss his...
www.post-gazette.com
Hey, it is theoretically possible that Paciolan, the company that Pitt uses for ticketing, is run by undergrad comp sci students.
That oddly enough has been in business for 40 years. And is based in California.
But I mean it's possible, right?
Terrible decision hiring Harsin….
Talking about finances, he cost Auburn a fortune with that hire. No one at Auburn likes him. That said I’ll keep an open mind.
Does he have a sparkling resume. No he doesn’t.
Yellawood runs the show down there. Other than Pat Dye, they really haven't liked anybody.
He was essentially fired for that hire? Plus fundraising was poor. Accused him of goofing off, playing golf. Not a hard worker? Look at the numbers.
I am now, thanks to the last few years of success that focused my attention on a non-revenue sport I had paid little attention to previously, despite having a daughter that was a D1 scholarship athlete in T&F.
me too. well my daughter plays high school and i love it and of course this coincided with pitt being good and im a fan.
Harsin was a hot commodity when he was hired at Auburn. I don't recall any talk about him being a bad hire when it went down. Revisionist history is laughable at times.
The 44-year-old Harsin was 69-19 with three Mountain West titles in seven seasons at Boise State, his alma mater. Harsin was a top target for Auburn from the start of its coaching search, and more than 20 Power 5 schools have reached out to him over the years, a source told ESPN's Adam Rittenberg.
Louisiana head coach Billy Napier and Clemson defensive coordinator Brent Venables previously turned down the Auburn job, sources told ESPN's Chris Low.
Well, 100% of the wvu, psu people here are underwhelmed by the hire, so there’s that…
I want to know what Jeff Capel thinks of the hire. If Greene can keep a slimeball like Pearl around, what would he do with a good coach, a good man, like Capel? Replace him at the first sign of a hiccup with another slimeball? This is a wait and see thing to see how he supports the basketball program.
Capel was on the advisory search committee, so I'm guessing he's on board.
Why is Pearl a slimeball? Capel's program at OU got caught paying players. No judgement, as that's kinda what it took to attempt to stay competitive.
AD's generally don't get to make coaching changes in major sports unless they can drum up some monied booster support behind the scenes.
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