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Any Dixon defenders left?

Grow up and move on. There's a new administration in place now. Stop looking for reasons why not.

We have capable people in place now. If you can't see that, then you are a Pederson/Nordy loyalist.

Dixon got complacent as did pederson and nordy. They'd mailed it in for years.
This is BS. I just don't think Archie is the "easy choice."

And the Pederson / Nordy reference is ridiculous in this context.
 
Oklahoma recruits Texas. Some terrific talent. Iowa St. gets transfers. Iowa recruits their state. They have some decent players who happen to stay four years. Don't underestimate Srs in college basketball. It's the same formula WI used to get to consecutive final fours. Have one terrific player in Kaminsky and another very good player in Dekker. Then fill in with Jrs. and Sophomores. FR make too many mistakes and are inconsistent.

And that's why LSU with the first overall pick in the NBA and a mid to late first rounder, who both happen to be freshmen, will not make the tournament this year.
 
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This is BS. I just don't think Archie is the "easy choice."

And the Pederson / Nordy reference is ridiculous in this context.
Your right. I was trying to kill two birds with one stone. ;). We do have to move on from the miller grudge though.
 
Your right. I was trying to kill two birds with one stone. ;). We do have to move on from the miller grudge though.
Sure, but I don't have a Miler grudge.
Just not sold on Archie.
 
Apples to oranges. First off, pitt has about ten programs in the northeast it will contend with locally for those players. There is a huge concentrations r good basketball schools in that area, and decent a10 level schools as well.

Wisconsin, iowa, iowa stae, Oklahoma have almost no local competition, and can extend out across the entire Midwest. Hell, it is exactly why a program like Wichita can be so good. It is why the Missouri valley for so long had so many high quality teams. The talent base there is being fought over by far fewer schools, and if there is a hidden gem playing somewhere in the middle of nowhere Nebraska he isn't going to be found and recruited by 10 schools that are within 2 hours of him like a kid in philly.
There are no BB players in their respective states so they compete directly with big time programs in seeking players. Again your analysis is completely bogus.
 
This constant harping on Nordenberg and Smiley is beyond ridiculous. Dixon is and has been a very good coach, and has proven it. I understand the frustrations recently as I have those same frustrations with Dixon and his coaching. But seriously, unless we're willing to lay out the cash for a Bennett, Calipari, or someone who could make an immediate impact with this program, we're pissing in the wind. Forget Sean Miller ever coming to Pitt. By his choice, he'd never do it for any amount of money. And Archie Miller has done nothing to prove he'd be even a lateral move from Dixon let alone an improvement.

Change in the head coach in the context of what many on here are talking would mean paying a new coach in excess of $5MM/year. It's not going to happen. If it would, it would demonstrate that Pitt has their priorities all screwed up.
 
Grow up and move on. There's a new administration in place now. Stop looking for reasons why not.

We have capable people in place now. If you can't see that, then you are a Pederson/Nordy loyalist.

Dixon got complacent as did pederson and nordy. They'd mailed it in for years.

What leads you to believe they would hire a top flight coach? The football hire? If you didn't notice, this is Narduzzi's first gig. He is off to a good start for sure, but not proven 100% yet by any means.

Pitt would likely either hire an assistant from a top program, but more than likely is going to hire a coach from a lower level school if the job ever opens. A coach from a mid major, and I do not consider Dayton and Archie Miller a Mid Major.
 
Meanwhile down in M morgantown Bob Huggins has no recruiting base and he finds players from all over the country. He's killing it right now.

Huggins also missed any tournament in 2012 and lost 1st round NIT in 2014. Down periods happen unless you are one of the big boys. Dixon is going to be given a couple years to right the ship no matter how much some want b*tch and moan. I an't stand tis site on days like this.
 
What leads you to believe they would hire a top flight coach? The football hire? If you didn't notice, this is Narduzzi's first gig. He is off to a good start for sure, but not proven 100% yet by any means.

Pitt would likely either hire an assistant from a top program, but more than likely is going to hire a coach from a lower level school if the job ever opens. A coach from a mid major, and I do not consider Dayton and Archie Miller a Mid Major.

Then be prepared for a few sub-0.500 seasons as we break in a new coach who isn't the equal of Dixon. Whine about it all you want. That is reality.

And the reference to Narduzzi is silly. Basketball isn't football, and Narduzzi has proven little so far. Next year will be critical. But seriously, if we get past 6 wins next year, it would be a miraculous season for Narduzzi. For us to say that Narduzzi is off to a good start, he'd have to get to 9 wins next year. Does anyone really think that is going to happen with that schedule?
 
Huggins also missed any tournament in 2012 and lost 1st round NIT in 2014. Down periods happen unless you are one of the big boys. Dixon is going to be given a couple years to right the ship no matter how much some want b*tch and moan. I an't stand tis site on days like this.
Exactly . Just as he should be given that chance.
 
Either am I but you alluded to the bad blood as a potential deal killer in your one post.
Actually, DT didn't do that.

He alluded to the difficulty of recruiting kids to Pitt given that Miller decommitted from Pitt himself.
 
Meanwhile down in M morgantown Bob Huggins has no recruiting base and he finds players from all over the country. He's killing it right now.
He really killed it 2 years ago when he went 14-18 and also was beat down by an unranked FLA team. Losing Nix was a major loss to this team. People who think we can do better than Dixon are smoking massive amounts.
 
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Huggins' team was really awesome scoring 39 pts last year in the tourney.....next

Huggins is a superior coach to Jamie Dixon. Not close. And WVU is so much tougher than our team. In fact, they would press us into oblivion and during a press they would come over and piss on you and there is nothing you could do about it because you are not strong. Not like Huggins WVU teams. They would laugh at you.
 
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Please don't throw me under your "old guys" stereotypical blanket" when you beef is clearly with Harve.

I have no issues with the Millers and would easily support Sean Miller as a coaching choice.

But I am not nearly as sold on Archie Miller and think my recruiting point still stands.

There are many I think we should call long before Archie. But I believe Archie has started to become that "lazy" favorite for those who don't think Sean would ever come here.

You are what you are Dave. The fact that you even brought that up.
 
He really killed it 2 years ago when he went 14-18 and also was beat down by an unranked FLA team. Losing Nix was a major loss to this team. People who think we can do better than Dixon are smoking massive amounts.
I do not believe that anymore with our current admin.
Huggins' team was really awesome scoring 39 pts last year in the tourney.....next
I do not like WV, but they have clearly been on the uptick. They are in a more difficult position recruiting wise being located where they are and playing teams 700 miles away.
 
Huggins is a superior coach to Jamie Dixon. Not close. And WVU is so much tougher than our team. In fact, they would press us into oblivion and during a press they would come over and piss on you and there is nothing you could do about it because you are not strong. Not like Huggins WVU teams. They would laugh at you.

Well... there is that little fact that Dixon is 6-3 in his career head-to-head against Huggins.

Huggins' current WVU team is tough. Dixon's current Pitt team is soft.

But Dixon has owned Huggins head to head.
 
Oklahoma recruits Texas. Some terrific talent. Iowa St. gets transfers. Iowa recruits their state. They have some decent players who happen to stay four years. Don't underestimate Srs in college basketball. It's the same formula WI used to get to consecutive final fours. Have one terrific player in Kaminsky and another very good player in Dekker. Then fill in with Jrs. and Sophomores. FR make too many mistakes and are inconsistent.

And that's why LSU with the first overall pick in the NBA and a mid to late first rounder, who both happen to be freshmen, will not make the tournament this year.
And that's why LSU with the first overall pick in the NBA and a mid to late first rounder, who both happen to be freshmen, will not make the tournament this year.

You forgot that one small part about how Oklhoma, Iowa, and especially Wisky (until Ryan retired) are all extremely well coached amd LSU is coached by some joker with a career .500 record.
 
The nordy and e harping is from th
No it is not silly. Who made you the arbitrar of silliness? You just push pills as the guy said.

The answers to fixing this isn't by replacing Barton only.
Hence silly.
Hint, see who is doing the coaching and who isn't convincing the players to follow along...
It's not Barton.
The pill guy has more common sense, apparently.

I like fixing Root causes, but focusing on silliness.
Hope that helps.

Quick, name the guards who've developed under knight?
Show me recruits he's closed on.
Who is coaching the guys on the bench and giantl giving input to scheme??

Barton is the new pat sandle. He does scut work.
Brian Regan is involved in timeouts more than barton.

Firing him won't fix anything.. But go ahead, and fire him.
Enjoy the mental masturbation.
 
I do not believe that anymore with our current admin.

I do not like WV, but they have clearly been on the uptick. They are in a more difficult position recruiting wise being located where they are and playing teams 700 miles away.
So you are saying teams go up, and down, then up again. That teams can go through cycles?
 
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The nordy and e harping is from th


Quick, name the guards who've developed under knight?
Show me recruits he's closed on.
Who is coaching the guys on the bench and giantl giving input to scheme??

Barton is the new pat sandle. He does scut work.
Brian Regan is involved in timeouts more than barton.

Firing him won't fix anything.. But go ahead, and fire him.
Enjoy the mental masturbation.

The sad news is that Cam Wright is head and shoulders better than Smith and Jones. What do we have at the 2G after these two? Cam Johnson and possibly Milligan. Talk about lack of talent.
 
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That's BS
Further, I don't care that he decommited. It happens all the time.
I think it could undermine him, even if in some small way.
If the time comes for another coach, there are many out there.
I don't see Archie as a clear choice as you do.
 
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It is widely recognized in the coaching profession that Dixon is not a good mentor and difficult to deal with. That is why we can not retain/recruit better assistants.
 
The nordy and e harping is from th


The answers to fixing this isn't by replacing Barton only.
Hence silly.
Hint, see who is doing the coaching and who isn't convincing the players to follow along...
It's not Barton.
The pill guy has more common sense, apparently.

I like fixing Root causes, but focusing on silliness.
Hope that helps.

Quick, name the guards who've developed under knight?
Show me recruits he's closed on.
Who is coaching the guys on the bench and giantl giving input to scheme??

Barton is the new pat sandle. He does scut work.
Brian Regan is involved in timeouts more than barton.

Firing him won't fix anything.. But go ahead, and fire him.
Enjoy the mental masturbation.

Great. But I never have said this was the answer. Especially lately. In fact, I supported your thoughts on Brandin. So again, just thinking you are trying to be a contrarian to a contrarian.
 
Its widely recognized. Ask around.

You obviously got your understanding from people on the staff who have no choice but to be complementary.
 
I said it 2 years ago, I said it last year, everyone blames Jamie and he definitely deserves a lot of the blame, but his assistant coaches suck.

Who the **** hires the assistants? The women's basketball coach?!? He hires idiots like Brandon Knight and that brother from Detroit - when Pitt hasn't had a recruit from detroit since d gore.
 
Dixon is a good man who has been an excellent coach for Pitt but there are clearly serious problems with this program that likely can not be corrected. A lot of the issues are related to Dixon's staff and his management of it.
 
This constant harping on Nordenberg and Smiley is beyond ridiculous. Dixon is and has been a very good coach, and has proven it. I understand the frustrations recently as I have those same frustrations with Dixon and his coaching. But seriously, unless we're willing to lay out the cash for a Bennett, Calipari, or someone who could make an immediate impact with this program, we're pissing in the wind. Forget Sean Miller ever coming to Pitt. By his choice, he'd never do it for any amount of money. And Archie Miller has done nothing to prove he'd be even a lateral move from Dixon let alone an improvement.


Archie Miller has been to an Elite 8 and won 4 NCAA tournament games the past two season out of the A-10. He's 18-3 this year. He's been a head coach for 4 seasons.

If that doesn't impress you, I have to ask what Dixon has done that is so impressive given that Archie has already matched our NCAAT pinnacle in only a third of the time?
 
What makes you sure he would come to pitt?
Hmmm ... let's see.

We want the coach who made a verbal commitment to play at Pitt then went back on his commitment to be the guy who is working on getting players to trust him enough to make commitments to come to Pitt.


Yep. Nick saban is a snake, pitino probably one of the worst people in the world,
The nordy and e harping is from th


The answers to fixing this isn't by replacing Barton only.
Hence silly.
Hint, see who is doing the coaching and who isn't convincing the players to follow along...
It's not Barton.
The pill guy has more common sense, apparently.

I like fixing Root causes, but focusing on silliness.
Hope that helps.

Quick, name the guards who've developed under knight?
Show me recruits he's closed on.
Who is coaching the guys on the bench and giantl giving input to scheme??

Barton is the new pat sandle. He does scut work.
Brian Regan is involved in timeouts more than barton.

Firing him won't fix anything.. But go ahead, and fire him.
Enjoy the mental masturbation.


I get where you're coming from but sandle scouted and worked with the big guys. Maybe we miss him?

Knight got Damon Wilson, Woodall, Gibbs, etc
 
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