I like to watch opponent games to see how we stack up and to be honest just like us they aren't as bad as their record would suggest. They have a very dangerous RPO. Offense kinda reminds me of UCF believe it or not. Their D can be run on so we have to control clock and tempo with our big boys. Like Duzz said in the presser we have to stuff their run and make them one dimensional. UCF and Duke hurt us because we couldn't stop either. They will make plays against us but if we can control both lines we should win.....but trust me this is far from a gimme.
Better take Wake serious
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That's why the Vegas line is only Pitt minus 6 after their offensive explosion against VT.
No game is a gimmie.
Just take care of business.
Looks like Pitt opened as a 6 point favorite but quickly reduced to 4.5 point favorite on the road, "It is what it is."
Need to go 1- 0 this week
Line has gone down to 4.5. Some money flowing on WF early. I would expect it to go back up, but who knows?
Wake is good. That backup QB is a player and they have a dynamic WR, Dortch.
Narduzzi has struggled mightily vs these tempo teams and Wake plays the fastest in college football.
I think Wake scores 30+. We need to keep scoring
I don't follow Vegas lines too much and I agree we just need to go 1 and 0. But I noticed some people on this site (none who have commented here on this thread) already talking about our chances to beat Clemson and my thing is whoaaaaa!!! Every game has its own narrative this season so let's pump the breaks on the bottle popping and support this team as much as we can this week.
Even Sagarin's computer, which cannot and doesn't account for style of play matchups being favorable or unfavorable to particular teams, predicts Pitt by between about 3 (based on our entire season's work) and by about (7.3) based on recent games performance.
So, yes, this appears to be far from an easy game by any measure and the Vegas 4.5 line seems pretty reasonable.
So, yes, this appears to be far from an easy game by any measure and the Vegas 4.5 line seems pretty reasonable.
Anyone paying attention knew the last 4 starting with Va were toss ups.
I have been saying this all season. We have so much on the line. “Just win Baby”
Of course there is no Gimme or sore thing when it comes to any Pitt sport anyone whose been following Pitt sports and Pitt FB for any length of time knows this.
What I find interesting is how so many fans hype up how good the competition is and then when Pitt beats them they down play the win
We didn’t just beat VT we curb stomped them. The week before BC was in a tight game with them.
For the program to shake the past perception and get where we all want it to be they have to win against teams like wake
Our offense should be able to run at will. The passing game is coming around which I think will continue to make enough plays to keep defenses semi honest
Other than the duke game the D has played well
Pitt should win this game easily. I really like the vibe coming from the team. HTP. See you in Winston salem
What I find interesting is how so many fans hype up how good the competition is and then when Pitt beats them they down play the win
We didn’t just beat VT we curb stomped them. The week before BC was in a tight game with them.
For the program to shake the past perception and get where we all want it to be they have to win against teams like wake
Our offense should be able to run at will. The passing game is coming around which I think will continue to make enough plays to keep defenses semi honest
Other than the duke game the D has played well
Pitt should win this game easily. I really like the vibe coming from the team. HTP. See you in Winston salem
I’m 100% confident how seriously fans take an opponent doesn’t matter.
happen to have Saragin's computer numbers from the VT game handy? The yardstick by which true AI is considered finally achieved is when a computer can predict the outcome of a Pitt football game...
The key will be our offenses’ ability to stay on the field. 3 and outs will put too much pressure on our defense.
Well that you are going to Winston Salem.
But, regarding your sentiments as expressed in your saying "For the program to shake the past perception and get where we all want it to be they have to win against teams like wake."
You mean, as in Wake which just beat a nationally ranked NC State team in Raleigh?!
Or the Wake team which beat Texas A&M in their bowl game last season?
Or the team fielded by Wake which voted to invite Pitt to the ACC, which net net is the most fortunate thing to happen for Pitt Athletics in its history in the modern era, other than winning a NC in Football in 1976? Not only is the competition much better overall including that fielded by Wake, but the revenue is way ahead of what would have been available if still a member of the AAC / Big East.
Though UCF gave Pitt all they wanted, at this point in the season, UCF imo is no more than 50-50 likely to beat any team in the ACC south of Clemson and north of FSU and Louisville. Yes, I think UNC which beat Pitt before the season turned around would beat UCF. Ga Tech lost to USF but would not lose if they played again.
Wake just beat NC State on their field. So as much as Pitt has improved, so it seems Wake has improved.
I think it likely Pitt wins at Wake or against Miami. Win both, and what a turnaround when earlier in the season the lament was what would be Narduzzi's buyout if let go.
One game at a time against a good Wake program.
I always find this amusing. People play up the opponent before Pitt plays then and then if Pitt wins they weee mediocre and if Pitt loses its not because they lost to a good team hit that Pitt stinks.
I'm a Pitt fan. I take everything seriously because we so rarely get nice things.
Wake TB Matt Colburn's status for this game will be important. He was in tears last Thursday when the camera panned in on him on the WF bench when he injured his ankle at NCSU. Can he play? Will he be at full strength if he does?
Regardless, Pitt will need to have total focus and make maximum effort in all phases. Road games are always difficult. This one has a lot riding on it, for sure.
http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/cfb/139629/matt-colburn
Scares the hell out of me also. I don't see Pitt being able to get any substitutes into the game on any 3rd and long situations. I'd be playing with Jackson, Pinnock and Mathis being out there on D most of the game. We are going to need them to cover the Wake spread offense.
Relax The players now exactly what is on the line. Not saying it is a guaranteed win and Pitt could lose . It has nothing to do with how the prepare this week. The boys are working hard love this senior class
From the sounds of it, Wake's offense is very balanced, and their QB - albeit inexperienced - ran their 2-minute offense as though he'd been running it his whole life.
So Pitt is gonna be challenged again. But we should be used to this by now; other than Albany, which game hasn't been a challenge?
So Pitt is gonna be challenged again. But we should be used to this by now; other than Albany, which game hasn't been a challenge?
So you've noticed that, too?
Pitt certainly needs to take care of business Saturday. They definitely have the ability to do so. Now they've got to go out on the field and get it done. That's what good teams do.
If we weren't so relentlessly one dimensional on offense I'd be more confident. I just don't see how it should be so difficult to contain our running game. I would like to attribute it totally to our great coaches and our players all coming of age at the same time, but they just don't have the pedigrees to suggest that is what happened.
I just think week in and out opposing defenses refused to believe what they were seeing on film, or couldn't believe that we wouldn't be opening it up, finally, against THEM.
But SURELY, after the spectacle of last week, the next DC we're facing CERTAINLY will really, truly, sell out to stop our measley couple running plays that have been making so much hay! Nobody wants to feel like Bud Foster must feel, right? This is big leagues after all. And that this,THIS, will be the week it gets bottled up.
Plus of course the still prevalent notion that this defense is always capable of being scorched by any type of dynamic offense. Again, that may just be inability to believe what we've seen the last couple weeks!
Call that 40 years of pessimism if you like. I couldn't disagree in my case.
But i think the spread and money is showing others more objective are thinking similarly.
I just think week in and out opposing defenses refused to believe what they were seeing on film, or couldn't believe that we wouldn't be opening it up, finally, against THEM.
But SURELY, after the spectacle of last week, the next DC we're facing CERTAINLY will really, truly, sell out to stop our measley couple running plays that have been making so much hay! Nobody wants to feel like Bud Foster must feel, right? This is big leagues after all. And that this,THIS, will be the week it gets bottled up.
Plus of course the still prevalent notion that this defense is always capable of being scorched by any type of dynamic offense. Again, that may just be inability to believe what we've seen the last couple weeks!
Call that 40 years of pessimism if you like. I couldn't disagree in my case.
But i think the spread and money is showing others more objective are thinking similarly.
Ffrench caught a 78 yard bomb for a TD vs VT. Had another long one just go off his finger tips.
Mack caught a long pass down to the 1/2 yard line vs VT.
Ffrench also caught 50 and 25 yard TD passes vs Duke. In the rain.
Having Mack & Ffrench both healthy and available is a big deal, IMO.
I don't think Pitt needs to be 1 dimensional at all. I think they are doing what they are doing most of the time because they CAN. Because opponents are having a lot of difficulty handling Pitt's run game most of the time. But like with every other game, we'll just have to wait and see.
yes, fear the team Pitt needs to beat to face the team that beat them 63-3...geez, folks, man up. Let's go Pitt, just kick their ass!
Most defenses are scorched against the spread and tempo teams.
The key is for Pitt to keep the rushing attack going, and have ball possession to keep WF off the field.
Just like I've been saying since the ND game, all of these games are 50/50.
We are Pitt.... no game is a "gimmie" for us.
Wake is a good team
Wake is a good team
I'm a Pitt fan. I take everything seriously because we so rarely get nice things.
Lol. This is a classic. Well done
rarely? geez, I was at the game on Saturday and got three nice things in one day...an easy enjoyable Pitt win and two Bill Hillgrove Bobble-heads (one to display and one to keep in the box such that a grandchild someday might find it worth 200 grand on Antiques Roadshow season 75 in 2065)I'm a Pitt fan. I take everything seriously because we so rarely get nice things.
This is true. So - accordingly - Pitt should get HUGE props if they are able to beat them.
I think there’s a good bit of truth to this. Pitt is mostly running the ball because no one has stopped them and they are getting splash plays in the run game
This is where Watson deserves credit. Many OCs want to prove how smart and innovative they are and go away from what’s working just for the sake of balance or being tricky. Until they are stopped there’s no reason to shift towards more passing Pass just enough to keep the D honest which is what they’ve done
The way things work in team sports is, if you're a good team and PITT is, and everyone does their job, executes the successful plan drawn up by the coaching staff for that game the team should win.
Even though football is a team sport it's important for each player on the team to win the individual battles on the field which when summed up will result in a team win.
This is exactly why PITT football has been in a winning mode lately.
The team is starting to " feel " it, they're liking eachother, they're winners, which helps them be successful as individuals on the field.
PITT closes things out at Wake Forest!
"it's five o'clock somewhere"
Signed: Mr Buffett
Go PITT & CSU Rams!
Even though football is a team sport it's important for each player on the team to win the individual battles on the field which when summed up will result in a team win.
This is exactly why PITT football has been in a winning mode lately.
The team is starting to " feel " it, they're liking eachother, they're winners, which helps them be successful as individuals on the field.
PITT closes things out at Wake Forest!
"it's five o'clock somewhere"
Signed: Mr Buffett
Go PITT & CSU Rams!
That's how I've seen it. Especially for the last several games after the finish of the OOC schedule. Think that's what the staff and team have really focused on offensively: what they can do best and most effectively to try to win the ACC Coastal. That was their stated objective from the beginning this year. To try to establish a difficult but reasonable goal and take a step up in terms of building a successful program.
It's within their sights. Now they have to close the deal.
I get the doubt based on Pitts history trust me I do after watching 30 years of stealing defeat from the jaws of victory
But come on. Pedigree has nothing to do with this. Give credit to the players and the staff for developing a dominant ground game. Foster had 9 men in the box early on and Pitt still ran in them. They mixed in enough splash plays in the pass game to make them respect that as well.
If wake chooses to play 9 in the box our passing game will burn them. I have no doubt Pitt will impose their will on wake on offense. Just have to hope what we’ve seen on D continues
I really like the vibe around the team.
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