Brown played 18 minutes and had 0 points and 0 rebounds
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I have no disagreement with you. However, the guys you mention are exceptions not the norm in college hoops. We could name others. They all played bigger than their height because they had other physical attributes that compensated for their relative lack of height for the position they played. Big Fella, for example, in addition to great strength had extra long arms that gave him the wingspan and reach of a 6-10 player. Length, girth and strength can be as important as height. But, since we don’t have anything like this type of player on our current roster and Brown being what he is and Hamilton leaving and Coulibaly needing a lot of development we badly need guys who play big either because they are tall or play as if they are taller. We have them coming. In this case they are tall and Hugley also adds strength so he may be able to play bigger even than his 6-9. Also, Coulibaly could potentially eventually learn to play bigger than his 6-8 due to his long arms.
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Maybe gamewatches can be in our future again. Keep the banner handy.
My point is that there is no particular magic threshold at 6-8. Let's just get better players. A good 6-6 is better than a not as good 6-8. Bigger does not mean better. Better means better.
Cant argue. Was shocked to see that probably his career best game was as a frosh with 19-8-2. I thought his stat line against Cuse last year was better than it actually was. So maybe 10-8-2 should be the better aspiration.
Sure, I agree. But you still need a few good players who are bigger or play bigger than 6-6. I am optimistic that our three incoming guys will prove to not only be tall but also prove to be good. But maybe I have been drinking too much of Vader’s kool aid?
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From a personal perspective, I don't disparage Terrell Brown. He is, no doubt, trying his best. Last season and this season we would be worse off without his contribution.
That being said, from a purely analytical point of view looking forward to future seasons, for Pitt to put and NCAA tourney level team on the court, it will need to have better talent and results at Brown and Hamilton's current shared post position.
That being said, from a purely analytical point of view looking forward to future seasons, for Pitt to put and NCAA tourney level team on the court, it will need to have better talent and results at Brown and Hamilton's current shared post position.
It is not that black and white. Hamilton is a great kid, but a temporary patch, and not exactly Oscar T.
I took some heat last year for the honest assessment of Brown (that many shared), and we are seeing that he is the limited guy he appeared to be last year.
He is who he is, but they will win more games this year if he finds a way to tune in and use his size as it can be used in a few games.
The options, especially this year are so limited, we have to hope that he CAN have some games where he has a pulse because that might be the difference in them being able to win a few more games.
TB seems to be a good guy and wants to do well and for some reason just doesn't get the results I am sure he wants or the team needs. I have wondered since before the season if he looks for a lower level of competition elsewhere as a Grad Transfer or if he finishes up his career here at Pitt. I think we are a better team with him next year even just from a leadership and experience he brings to the table heading into his 4th year in the ACC and 3rd year under Capel. Looking forward to the 3 new bigs we have coming in next year to get some production from the 5.
I noticed that too. He's done similar with Coulibaly on occasion, too, even when he doesn't pop in the stat sheet.
I did notice that last night we didn't really see the "missed layup and sluggish return down the court on defense" thing that we've seen from TB on occasion. He was setting some screens and generally looked like he was moving with energy - seems like Capel was more calling that out than his obviously nonexistent rebounding and scoring.
A big butt and /or brute strength helps . Pitts best inside players through the yrs have been around 6’6”
Sam Clancy
Jerome Lane
Brian Shorter
O Lett
Chevy
Blair
ps ..having a natural feel for where the balls going is what makes you special , no one on this team really has that . Toney almost .
Last night my wife asked "is he wearing a yarmulke on the court or just bald?"
Ryan is a good sport about his look, though. All he cares about is the game. I love his mentality.
We could have asked any five year old kid who would be better, the new player or the player who is not very good, and they would have given the same opinion.
Nah, not everyone. Probably not even half. Some people just didn't want to disparage Brown too much, or be overly optimistic about Hamilton.
Clearly a capable big is our biggest weakness. I would be glad if we had a Torrie Morris on the team at this point. And that is not an insult to Torrie. He would be a starter on this team, but it just shows how good we were then. Also, if you followed anything about Torrie's life it is sad where he is at now or at least a few years ago.
Why does anyone acknowledge SMF? Amazes me the amount of garbage that guy puts out and how many people actually engage with him.
lol went to WF game and my wife noticed Murphy and asked who the 30 yr old with the monk-like hairstyle was. Easy to see when you are looking down from 204 ..
Funny, Capel was just on the radio saying Brown was one of the big keys to the win, esp in the 2nd half
Even after a big win, a douche laden thread emerges
He did some decent things to help the team. There is defense and playing off the ball ya know. Maybe this is why kids make plays like X made against WF...have to cater to people that judge them
Again - great win
He did some decent things to help the team. There is defense and playing off the ball ya know. Maybe this is why kids make plays like X made against WF...have to cater to people that judge them
Again - great win
I think everyone probably agrees that you need to get back on your medication.
His defense was not very good, either .
I’m a big fan of the little things -
He altered a couple shots. Capel seemed to think he was more productive than I observed - and his opinion actually counts
Don't mean to be rude, but I don't know how anyone can still "hope" Brown gets better. Probably a nice kid, but he is not a basketball player, and I've been saying it since his freshman year. I've coached ball for 20 years, and you can't teach someone how to catch a ball, to anticipate when they have no spacial awareness, to overcome slow foot speed in short space, to turn on their motor. Kids that don't do these things well but have ability to do them well can be taught, and you can see great improvement, but sadly, Brown's ability in all of these areas is very low.
The one plus he has of course, is shot blocking. In addition to have great length, he is good at reading the timing of a shot attempt and jumping at the right time, especially when he is the off ball defender. There, I ended on a positive, so I feel better.
That doesn't mean you know hoops.
As the saying goes " Stevie wonder could see that ".
Been agreeing with you too much lately. I think he should transfer to RMU. He'd be a 7 foot center going up against teams who's biggest players are 6'8". Still wouldn't get rebounds but could get a lot of blocks and some easy baskets.
Well he did get 9 rebounds when he played against the the current NEC leaders earlier this year.
Capel is a straight shooter. At the same time he was critical of Browns first half. Then he talked about ways that he impacted the game in the 2nd half. And make no mistake, Brown had a positive impact on how we outscored UNC by 17 in the 2nd half. What Capel is trying to do is get complete games out of TB. Just as Capel isn’t shallow when looking at the state line, I refuse to do the same.
Sometimes this board can be a cesspool.
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