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Capel should offer Terrelle Pryor

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Not sure the rules on that. Wouldn't he have 1 year of NCAA eligibility left in a sport where he didn't play professionally? Honestly, I want to see someone do this. In all seriousness, even at 32, if Pryor got in shape, he would be able to be a role at the ACC level I believe.

Heck, on that note, how bout Jon Baldwin too? We can resurrect the old JOTS team.
 
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Pretty sure you only have X amount of years to exhaust all eligibility once the clock starts ticking (with enrollment) at the D1 level. The dudes who are playing D1 at 27 or 28 have typically been in the military out of high school or went on some type of religious mission prior to enrolling. At least that's my understanding of it.

But I believe the rules are less strict at lower levels--like D3. Maybe Slippery Rock can become the old head version of Lincoln Park.
 
Pretty sure you only have X amount of years to exhaust all eligibility once the clock starts ticking (with enrollment) at the D1 level. The dudes who are playing D1 at 27 or 28 have typically been in the military out of high school or went on some type of religious mission prior to enrolling. At least that's my understanding of it.

But I believe the rules are less strict at lower levels--like D3. Maybe Slippery Rock can become the old head version of Lincoln Park.
Maybe correct but nobody's really ever tested it in a different sport. I mean O get that JR Smith didn't go to college so he can play 4 years of golf but the "clock starts ticking once you enroll" rule seems arbitrary in comparison. Lets use a true student athlete comparison. Lets say some female swimmer turns pro after her sophomore year but after swimming as a pro for a few years, she wants to finish her degree and play on the softball team. It seems extremely ridiculous that this wouldn't be allowed but they allow college basketball free agency.
 
Maybe correct but nobody's really ever tested it in a different sport. I mean O get that JR Smith didn't go to college so he can play 4 years of golf but the "clock starts ticking once you enroll" rule seems arbitrary in comparison. Lets use a true student athlete comparison. Lets say some female swimmer turns pro after her sophomore year but after swimming as a pro for a few years, she wants to finish her degree and play on the softball team. It seems extremely ridiculous that this wouldn't be allowed but they allow college basketball free agency.

I'm quite confident that, in the 120 year history of the NCAA, somebody has tested it.
 
Not sure the rules on that. Wouldn't he have 1 year of NCAA eligibility left in a sport where he didn't play professionally? Honestly, I want to see someone do this. In all seriousness, even at 32, if Pryor got in shape, he would be able to be a role at the ACC level I believe.

Heck, on that note, how bout Jon Baldwin too? We can resurrect the old JOTS team.
Hate to be serious on a jagov post but I'm pretty sure there is an age limit like 28 years old or something. Someone can fact check me on this.
 
Hate to be serious on a jagov post but I'm pretty sure there is an age limit like 28 years old or something. Someone can fact check me on this.

Don't think so. They typical requirement is that they must enroll within one year of graduating high school and then have five years to finish four years of eligibility. But obviously there are exceptions to both of those things. Still, I'm quite confident that one of the exceptions isn't "Played in the NFL for a decade and then decided I want to assemble a novelty attraction in a different sport."
 
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Don't think so. They typical requirement is that they must enroll within one year of graduating high school and then have five years to finish four years of eligibility. But obviously there are exceptions to both of those things. Still, I'm quite confident that one of the exceptions isn't "Played in the NFL for a decade and then decided I want to assemble a novelty attraction in a different sport."
What's the difference though? If a player didn't use 4 years of eligibility and wants to return after playing professionally in a different sport, they should be allowed. I believe they'd win a court case. The courts despise the NCAA. Their rules make no sense whatsoever.

Someone get Pryor and Frank Walker Law on the horn and lets get this done.
 
There was some guy playing college football at the age of 50 or something like that. Now that was D3, but curious what all of these rules really are.
 
Hate to be serious on a jagov post but I'm pretty sure there is an age limit like 28 years old or something. Someone can fact check me on this.
I don't think so, there have been people like 50 years old that played college sports.
 
What's the difference though? If a player didn't use 4 years of eligibility and wants to return after playing professionally in a different sport, they should be allowed. I believe they'd win a court case. The courts despise the NCAA. Their rules make no sense whatsoever.

Someone get Pryor and Frank Walker Law on the horn and lets get this done.
I think eventually someone will challenge the "years of eligibility" and there will be guys getting paid to play college football or basketball for 10 years or more.
 
I think eventually someone will challenge the "years of eligibility" and there will be guys getting paid to play college football or basketball for 10 years or more.
Agreed. That's another arbitrary rule especially with NIL. If a kid wants to take college classes for 10 years and is making 6 figures, why should they be denied a chance to make a living. Think of guys like BK, Krauser, Fields, guys who cant play in the NBA but are elite college players. If those guys are making 200K playing college basketball, doesn't it seem wrong that the NCAA puts a time limit on their earnings potential?
 
don't think so, there have been people like 50 years old that played college sports.
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Poor Chas, cramping and unable to dive. Another movie where Zapka gets his ass kicked and becomes the loser again.
Totally forgot Johnny Lawrence was in that flick. I might have to watch it again, but I might have class.
 
Agreed. That's another arbitrary rule especially with NIL. If a kid wants to take college classes for 10 years and is making 6 figures, why should they be denied a chance to make a living. Think of guys like BK, Krauser, Fields, guys who cant play in the NBA but are elite college players. If those guys are making 200K playing college basketball, doesn't it seem wrong that the NCAA puts a time limit on their earnings potential?

I've wondered if schools will take that route once they inevitably break away from the NCAA. I still don't really understand exactly what the NCAA does for these schools, other than implement some funky rules and receive a huge share of revenue.
 
I've wondered if schools will take that route once they inevitably break away from the NCAA. I still don't really understand exactly what the NCAA does for these schools, other than implement some funky rules and receive a huge share of revenue.
The schools are the NCAA. They want a governing body so they decided to form the NCAA to oversee them. The NCAA doesn't get any revenue in any sense. The revenue is passed on to the schools
 
Believe you have 6 years once you play any sport. All those older guys(played baseball etc) went pro first and never started the college clock
 
Believe you have 6 years once you play any sport. All those older guys(played baseball etc) went pro first and never started the college clock
Correct.

J.R. Smith is the latest version. He went pro in basketball right out of high school, had a lengthy NBA career, and is now at North Carolina A&T where he's on the golf team while getting a degree.
 
The schools are the NCAA. They want a governing body so they decided to form the NCAA to oversee them. The NCAA doesn't get any revenue in any sense. The revenue is passed on to the schools

No. That isn't how it works. The NCAA absolutely keeps a large portion of its revenues. It's not some break-even governing body (at least as defined by common sense); it's a business. Even if they distribute everything after they paying their exorbitant salaries (which I'm not even sure that they do), there are still a group of people getting very rich. You can argue that other non-profits operate that way, but the fact remains: The NCAA really isn't needed. At all.
 
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"Pryor ... said he won't go back on his word now that he's made up his mind even though verbal commitments are non-binding." If the NCAA let's him, he can still fulfill his promise.
Pitt basketball has never landed a recruit who verballed prior to his junior year. Like 0 for 6. Weird.
 
No. That isn't how it works. The NCAA absolutely keeps a large portion of its revenues. It's not some break-even governing body (at least as defined by common sense); it's a business. Even if they distribute everything after they paying their exorbitant salaries (which I'm not even sure that they do), there are still a group of people getting very rich. You can argue that other non-profits operate that way, but the fact remains: The NCAA really isn't needed. At all.
Sure, there are some executives getting rich but the NCAA just doesn't stash billions in their bank account. They spend it and disburse it. The NCAA isnt some league that the schools joined. Its the opposite. Its the schools that created it to oversee them.
 
Sure, there are some executives getting rich but the NCAA just doesn't stash billions in their bank account. They spend it and disburse it. The NCAA isnt some league that the schools joined. Its the opposite. Its the schools that created it to oversee them.

It's not the schools, though. It's a completely separate entity, and it doesn't always act in the best interests of the biggest revenue producers. Ohio State football doesn't need to be governed by the same body that oversees its women's track team. It's just stupid to lump it all together, and the expiration date is near. Within the next five years, you will see football schools begin to cede (most likely beginning with the SEC).
 
It's not the schools, though. It's a completely separate entity, and it doesn't always act in the best interests of the biggest revenue producers. Ohio State football doesn't need to be governed by the same body that oversees its women's track team. It's just stupid to lump it all together, and the expiration date is near. Within the next five years, you will see football schools begin to cede (most likely beginning with the SEC).
It is the schools. The schools elect the leaders and by and large, set the rules. The NCAA is just oversight, that it's. If the SEC and Big Ten leave the NCAA, they will have to form some other alphabet organization to oversee them.
 
It is the schools. The schools elect the leaders and by and large, set the rules. The NCAA is just oversight, that it's. If the SEC and Big Ten leave the NCAA, they will have to form some other alphabet organization to oversee them.

Well, it looks like the NCAA keeps a little over 40% of its revenues and distributes around 60% to the schools. I'm sure the schools can do better than that. And then to take it one step further, I'm sure LSU football doesn't need to share its revenues with Dartmouth field hockey.

A board that represents only SEC football teams is obviously going to act different than a board that represents everything from SEC football to Pepperdine track and field.
 
Well, it looks like the NCAA keeps a little over 40% of its revenues and distributes around 60% to the schools. I'm sure the schools can do better than that. And then to take it one step further, I'm sure LSU football doesn't need to share its revenues with Dartmouth field hockey.

A board that represents only SEC football teams is obviously going to act different than a board that represents everything from SEC football to Pepperdine track and field.
Keep it for what? They dont keep it to go on vacation. They keep it for administrative purposes and championship tournament purposes. The NCAA answers to its schools. Listen, I hate the NCAA but there's no way they are taking advantage of Power 5 schools. They spend their money as their member schools tell them to spend it.
 
Not sure the rules on that. Wouldn't he have 1 year of NCAA eligibility left in a sport where he didn't play professionally? Honestly, I want to see someone do this. In all seriousness, even at 32, if Pryor got in shape, he would be able to be a role at the ACC level I believe.

Heck, on that note, how bout Jon Baldwin too? We can resurrect the old JOTS team.
This is terrible
 
That's awesome. Literally was cracking up when I saw that because they made it sound so ridiculous....and funny. I mean I was being sarcastic in that they should "offer" him. Actually laughing again now thinking of Capel picking up the phone and dialing up Pryor and saying "Son, we would like to offer you a basketball scholarship to the University of Pittsburgh." However, I do think that someone should and will test that rule and that before long, you will see former NFL players playing college basketball and other sports. The NCAA is so arbitrary with their rules that there's no way this would hold up in court. So, 5 years from now when you see an NFL dude playing college hoops, it'll be another W.

Also, what would you guys do without me? For a completely dead and buried basketball program, this board is fun.
 
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