When we land even 1 top 10 talent, I will gladly join you at the altar dedicated to Capel worship. Right now we have the same association with name players as 25-30 other schools do.
Carr is leaving per Evan Daniels
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So we’re gonan have a team of 7-9 players (counting who is staying so far)?
How many are commited to staying currently? 4?
Im not too surprised at all that Carr is gone and, while clearly we could've used him next year, I'm not all that upset he's leaving. If not next season then certainly by the season after that capel should bring in better talent than Carr, so it's not too big of a loss.
I haven't really been paying attention, are there any juco/grad transfer pgs out there that Pitt has a shot at? Would be huge to get one for next season. Also need Ellison to stay to hopefully be a decent team next year, but it really wouldn't make sense for him to leave imo. H2P!
I haven't really been paying attention, are there any juco/grad transfer pgs out there that Pitt has a shot at? Would be huge to get one for next season. Also need Ellison to stay to hopefully be a decent team next year, but it really wouldn't make sense for him to leave imo. H2P!
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Lol just saw the thread on the mcgowens kid to answer my own question. That would be an absolutely awesome start to the capel era.
Frame - Stevenson - Davis - Brown - Ilegomah - George (that is 6)
Maybe Ellison and Chukwuka (that could go to 8)
5 open scholarships - need a PG, a backup PG and a C/PF type (that could be 11)
Fill the other 2 if convenient. If you fill all 13, at least 2 (hopefully 3) need to be grad transfers.
Oh ok good post.
I didn’t see when Peace & George recommited.
Getting Ellison to stay would be nice & if he’s struggling to get other big men, u can keep Chuck-Wuka too.
A minimum of 10-11 scholly players would be good.
None of them were going to be “recruited over” in 2018. They were next year’s starters and nucleus regardless of what last second scraps Capel can bring in for 2018, and I wouldn’t expect him to deliver anyone more impactful than the guys who are leaving in this class.
-Capel warship? Because he is going to land ranked players that Dixon and Stallings couldnt land in the last 5+ years of this program? And I literally couldnt give a rats ass about any player on Stallings roster since they got blown out constantly last year.
-The goal isnt to fill up the roster quickly with more garbage recruits. The goal is good players. Good players take time to recruit and effort. If little Arizona State, Vanderbilt, and Oregon can rake in 4 and 5 star recruits and Elite level classes, it can be done here too if Capel is anywhere near as good as a recruiter as the others.
-We can start with Trey Mcgowens, a 4 star guard. The problem with this fanbase is that the recruiting has sucked for so freegin long people around here dont know what good players look like because we are used to the 1 star and 0 star players from Idaho no one has heard of. Thats going to change.
Nobody is talking about 2018 (except maybe Steel). What happens in 2018 is mostly meaningless.
Carr will absolutely be recruited over at some point before he (potentially) graduated.
Carr was never really happy here and was whining last season about more fans not attending and how the team would "prove us wrong"... I did predict they'd win one game, so I guess he proved me wrong.
Capel has been doing a lot more than sitting in gyms or just seeing recruits play. Offers have been made to top 25 and top 100 guys. He's actually recruiting, where the previous coach never did anything close to this, thus his lack of recruiting anyone that could help. A lot more than most of us know is happening right now. Like I said before, if he can land even 2 or 3 of the guys he is aggressively recruiting and since these guys are top tier guys, it's going to help in a big way. It will snowball.
Put me somewhere in the middle in all this.
I don't think this years recruiting will be a disaster because "all that is left is 2018 scraps" and that no grad transfer will come here as they all want a shot at the tournament.
I also don't think that he will "easily" be able to bring in (for this year) players that will surpass what Carr, Stewart and Luther would have provided for us.
Fair enough. I do see your points. Just remember....Capel is working on getting some of these top guys to reclassify to 2018, if he can. It's possible that will happen. Not probable, but possible. You never know. I'm very optimistic that what Capel is able to bring in for this year will be more than adequate to replace what we lost.
I think Carr is crazy to leave. He has three years left why waste one transferring to a school like Marquette that is really not much better than Pitt will be in two years. If he stays at Pitt he could graduate in 2 years and then take 2 years as a graduate transfer and play right away if it doesn’t work out at Pitt.
Well, his team made the NCAA tournament many moons ago but his coach decided it was best that he sit on the bench during the actual game. So...does that count?
McGowans has a solid offer sheet. However, it' not like the blue bloods are knocking at his door. Let's not act like Jamie or Stallings never recruited a 4 star Top 50-100 guard before.
Why are the child rape lovers and morons suddenly crawling out from under their rocks?
So was Damon Wilson. Star ratings mean little. Class and position rankings mean more. Capel is pursuing top 25 and top 50 guys now. Carr would have been recruited over. And he couldn't play defense, was an inconsistent contributor and turned the ball over too many times. On the court results are what matter.
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First coach, head or assistant, front and center for Cole Anthony vs. Janes Wiseman?
Pittsburgh Head Coach Jeff Capel.
A full 30 mins prior to the tip.
That’s a big reason why Duke had all of those No. 1 classes.#NikeEYBL
-Cole Anthony. #1 point Guard, 5 Star recruit, All American from New York.
-In 3 seconds the Stallings bashers will say he isnt signed at Pitt yet. Dam it feels good to recruiting talent again
Carr was a freshman, Wilson wasn't. Carr will end up at a school not named Georgia Southern. The program would be better off with him than without him no matter how you try to spin it.
Yeah. That's fairly normal for a freshman that isn't surrounded by a lot of talent or veteran leadership.
He will move on to a program that will be in a better position to win.
Glad Capel is pursuing top talent. He needs to get some signatures.
-Its not. Its most people didnt think we had a chance with any 4 star players because Dixon and Stallings recruiting was a complete joke the last 5 years. Sleepy Stallings was too busy napping in high school gyms instead of recruiting
And they are Duke. I'm going to go out on a limb and predict Duke will still take in top talent.
-Im going out on a limb and saying Coack K is an old ass man and is done very very soon in college basketball.
-Btw, That's the third time within a week Capel has been in contact / watched the best point guard in the entire country. He was also the lead recruiter for Anthony at Duke
Are you answering someone else's post because I don't understand you reply. What does Stallings sleep patterns have to do with this upcoming season?
-Because Stallings didnt even try. He came here for a paycheck and Fraud Barnes bought into the bullshit with his buddy Todd Turner, who was a complete failure in D1. It wont take long before fraud Barnes wrecks Oregon State's powerhouse baseball team.
-All the idiots are out, for now.
That's some fuzzy math. Carr can't easily graduate in 2 years. That's damn near impossible to do. Or if you mean 2 years from now (assuming he didn't redshirt) that's still only 1 year as a graduate transfer as he would have played 3 years at Pitt.
He hasn't redshirted yet so he has 4 years remaining to play 3. If he is on track and graduates in 4 years, he can still be a graduate transfer for 1 year.
He hasn't redshirted yet so he has 4 years remaining to play 3. If he is on track and graduates in 4 years, he can still be a graduate transfer for 1 year.
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Starting 1 freshman is the ACC is a completely different situation as starting 4 or 5. A James Robinson type is just fine as Fr because he wasn't asked to do too much.
Yeah, I was going to comment on that too. Graduate in two years while playing D1 college basketball? That is basically unheard of. You'd have to be taking a ridiculous in season course load to make that even close to possible. And people simply do not do that. Not Marcus Carr, not anyone.
Take a step back look at Luther's track record of making decisions in the past. If you are not a fan of Pitt, you would have questioned his decision making and intelligence for staying at Pitt last year.
Maybe he's just not good at critical thinking.
Maybe he's just not good at critical thinking.
I'm talking about the 2 of them as incoming freshmen. Wilson was just as highly rated as Carr, maybe a little higher in some circles. Neither of them showed they are top talent, especially Carr since his defense was so poor and he was so inconsistent when he was on offense. Wilson was never given much of a chance.
Having another body that has some experience in the ACC would be fine, if Carr wasn't so intent on leaving Pitt in the first place. But again, Capel is recruiting guys that would have taken most of Carr's minutes and Carr would have eventually been on the bench with spot minutes at best. Maybe he kinda knew that, knowing who Capel was aggressively recruiting.
It doesn't matter when the head guy is a top recruiter. For example- Cal made Orlando Antigua look like he could recruit.
Because this team is going to be a loser whether he retained the entire roster or nobody. He needs to make a couple good pickups but mostly focus on signing a monster fall class.
Aside from a non-zero ACC win total, i don’t really think there’s demonstrable difference between finishing 1-17 or 5-13. Both are entirely non-competitive. What matters is how we’re positioned for a major improvement in 2019-20.
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