College Football in the not so distant future

[Saboteur II]

I spent an afternoon last week golfing with a former NFL veteran and CFB Dback. Here is what he told me the future of college football holds.
Some athletic departments are stand alone legal entities. Ohio State for example. That gives entry to this model.
Private equity firms are looking to “buy” athletic departments and they will manage the finances, select coaches and pay players. In turn, they will take in TV and other revenue and pay the university on some calculated basis.
It is too expensive he says, to buy an NFL franchise, so this semi professional option is attractive with existing brands, fans, etc.
He said there will be 3, maybe 4 “leagues”. The Big Ten and SEC are the only certain 2.
Collective bargaining and revenue sharing are a must.
This guy is smart and is a financial professional.
Take it for what it is worth, but it makes sense.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I spent an afternoon last week golfing with a former NFL veteran and CFB Dback. Here is what he told me the future of college football holds.
Some athletic departments are stand alone legal entities. Ohio State for example. That gives entry to this model.
Private equity firms are looking to “buy” athletic departments and they will manage the finances, select coaches and pay players. In turn, they will take in TV and other revenue and pay the university on some calculated basis.
It is too expensive he says, to buy an NFL franchise, so this semi professional option is attractive with existing brands, fans, etc.
He said there will be 3, maybe 4 “leagues”. The Big Ten and SEC are the only certain 2.
Collective bargaining and revenue sharing are a must.
This guy is smart and is a financial professional.
Take it for what it is worth, but it makes sense.

Private equity. Or just one single owner. Let's say David Teel decides to buy the Pitt football team and run it as he sees fit. You will see some of that at different places.

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

I spent an afternoon last week golfing with a former NFL veteran and CFB Dback. Here is what he told me the future of college football holds.
Some athletic departments are stand alone legal entities. Ohio State for example. That gives entry to this model.
Private equity firms are looking to “buy” athletic departments and they will manage the finances, select coaches and pay players. In turn, they will take in TV and other revenue and pay the university on some calculated basis.
It is too expensive he says, to buy an NFL franchise, so this semi professional option is attractive with existing brands, fans, etc.
He said there will be 3, maybe 4 “leagues”. The Big Ten and SEC are the only certain 2.
Collective bargaining and revenue sharing are a must.
This guy is smart and is a financial professional.
Take it for what it is worth, but it makes sense.

do you think they would be able to get a good return on their investment? Something has to give, not sure what yet.

 

[Upg bobcat]

do you think they would be able to get a good return on their investment? Something has to give, not sure what yet.

If there's a salary cap, then yes. Pro sports seem to be doing pretty well right now, and college football would probably be what, the 3rd most popular pro sport? Or even 2nd?

 

[ChiefJusticeMarshall]

Private equity. Or just one single owner. Let's say David Teel decides to buy the Pitt football team and run it as he sees fit. You will see some of that at different places.

Who the hell is David Teel?

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Who the hell is David Teel?

I meant David Tepper

 

[pittdan77]

Gross

 

[Saboteur II]

do you think they would be able to get a good return on their investment? Something has to give, not sure what yet.

That’s a good question and the answer will probably decide which schools step forward into the new era.
If I’m an equity guy, I stay away from the big ticket schools because in a field of the top ten, I suspect my ceiling is close to what the schools will want in return.
How much bigger can Ohio State’s brand become? A monopoly/anti trust suit would be fair game now because of VC and equity.
A lot of lawyers and financiers will feed at that table.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

That’s a good question and the answer will probably decide which schools step forward into the new era.
If I’m an equity guy, I stay away from the big ticket schools because in a field of the top ten, I suspect my ceiling is close to what the schools will want in return.
How much bigger can Ohio State’s brand become? A monopoly/anti trust suit would be fair game now because of VC and equity.
A lot of lawyers and financiers will feed at that table.

Big Ten and SEC (combined, that's about the same # of teams as what is in the NFL) TV revenue are about $1B each. NFL is about $10B, so they're at 20%. I think they can probably close that gap just a bit with more appealing TV matchups.

1) Tell Northwestern, Illinois, Rutgers, Maryland, Indiana, and Vanderbilt to go kick bricks

2) Add Clemson, FSU, Miami, and Notre Dame (they won't have a choice if the super league breaks off into its own thing)

3) Only play games amongst your own super league

Gotta tap into the WWF playbook, when they got rid of the jobbers on the weekly programs.

If they can increase total revenue from $2B to even $3B, well, it's a job well done.

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

Big Ten and SEC (combined, that's about the same # of teams as what is in the NFL) TV revenue are about $1B each. NFL is about $10B, so they're at 20%. I think they can probably close that gap just a bit with more appealing TV matchups.

1) Tell Northwestern, Illinois, Rutgers, Maryland, Indiana, and Vanderbilt to go kick bricks

2) Add Clemson, FSU, Miami, and Notre Dame (they won't have a choice if the super league breaks off into its own thing)

3) Only play games amongst your own super league

Gotta tap into the WWF playbook, when they got rid of the jobbers on the weekly programs.

If they can increase total revenue from $2B to even $3B, well, it's a job well done.

big difference is the WWE fans wanted to see matchups of Randy Orton versus Kofi Kingston on TV and didn't care if Randy's "record" for the year was 15 wins 15 losses.

The thrill will wear off for O$U fans playing a schedule of Georgia, Oklahoma, PSU, etc. and no more Ohio U. They won't enjoy finishing a season 8-4 and winning the Big10, like the NFL experiences with its conference champs.

I remember the Urban legend originally saying why he didn't want to go to the NFL, he thought he should be undefeated every year and that just isn't realistic there.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

big difference is the WWE fans wanted to see matchups of Randy Orton versus Kofi Kingston on TV and didn't care if Randy's "record" for the year was 15 wins 15 losses.

The thrill will wear off for O$U fans playing a schedule of Georgia, Oklahoma, PSU, etc. and no more Ohio U. They won't enjoy finishing a season 8-4 and winning the Big10, like the NFL experiences with its conference champs.

I remember the Urban legend originally saying why he didn't want to go to the NFL, he thought he should be undefeated every year and that just isn't realistic there.

I don't think Georgia fans are going to stop watching if they're 8-4 and in the championship discussion as opposed to being 10-2 and in the championship discussion. The only difference will be more non-Georgia fans will actually sit there and watch Georgia vs UCLA, whereas they wouldn't last five minutes of watching Georgia squash Georgia State.

It's inching closer toward the NFL model, and I can guarantee Giants fans didn't enjoy winning those last two Super Bowls any less because they were 10-6 and 9-7 instead of 14-2 and 13-3.

Plus, just like when the WWF made the switch in the 90's, I think there will still be plenty of teams effectively functioning as jobbers; they'll just be of a higher quality. Like, we all know Kane (Michigan) is going to run through Savio Vega (Nebraska), but it's still more entertaining than watching him beat up on Dusty Wolfe (Portland State).

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

I don't think Georgia fans are going to stop watching if they're 8-4 and in the championship discussion as opposed to being 10-2 and in the championship discussion. The only difference will be more non-Georgia fans will actually sit there and watch Georgia vs UCLA, whereas they wouldn't last five minutes of watching Georgia squash Georgia State.

It's inching closer toward the NFL model, and I can guarantee Giants fans didn't enjoy winning those last two Super Bowls any less because they were 10-6 and 9-7 instead of 14-2 and 13-3.

Plus, just like when the WWF made the switch in the 90's, I think there will still be plenty of teams effectively functioning as jobbers; they'll just be of a higher quality. Like, we all know Kane (Michigan) is going to run through Savio Vega (Nebraska), but it's still more entertaining than watching him beat up on Dusty Wolfe (Portland State).

true, I guess we are starting to see it now anyways. OSU lost to Michigan and their faithful thought the season was toast and Day was done. Now that is just a distant memory and all is well in Columbus.

 

[Las Panteras]

If this idea comes to be.....then I hope that PSU gets controlled by some wall street hedge fund

And the hedge fund treats the investment the way Nutting treats the Pirates.

I would laugh until i piss myself.