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Hotshoe said:
First of all, someone here was asking for input. Secondly, I follow Pitt as I have family that were graduated from Pitt. Third, players are less important than coaches? Really? You might look at Urban Meyer's and Nick Saban's comments regarding that. Look at what Urban told Chris Ash. It's always about the Jimmys and the Joes, always has been. I've been respectful here and always have been. You, not so much.
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I can't respect anyone who is a fan of that trash program up in that hellhole. Seriously, how can anyone respect a fan of a program where the head coach and one of his assistants, not to mention the administration, were actively involved in child rape for at least 3 decades, probably longer? Your opinions on anything related to college football are therefore irrelevant since UPS shouldn't even be playing the game.

As for players and coaches and which is more important, both are important. What I was saying is that when you have a really bad coach, such as Franklin, he will tend to ruin the players that he gets, if they were good, and they never perform to their potential or deteriorate (see Hackenburg). Kind of elementary stuff which you apparently have a difficult time grasping.

I really don't give a rat's ass what UPS does this year or any year. As I said before, Pitt has already won that game, regardless of the final score. The icing on the cake will be when we humiliate you into oblivion.
 
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Ok. I actually think Barkley is pretty good. But most have his stats are deceptive. 50+ of those yards against Ohio state came on one run in the 4th quarter. He only had 7 tds. Why? I don't think he is as good as elijah hood at unc who didn't get 100 yards on us last year.
 
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Ughhh. I'm all for knocking PSU, but you sound foolish knocking Barkley. He's big time, and to think he hasn't faced a D as fast as ours is embarrassingly silly.

And don't forget, he racked up those numbers running behind a putrid OL
 
ratking17 said:
Ok. I actually think Barkley is pretty good. But most have his stats are deceptive. 50+ of those yards against Ohio state came on one run in the 4th quarter. He only had 7 tds. Why? I don't think he is as good as elijah hood at unc who didn't get 100 yards on us last year.
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Deceptive???? Almost anytime somebody rushes for that many yards, they'll have a long run.

And even if for some reason you want to take out that run, he had 140 vs a defense much much much better than ours
 
Clearly your sarcasm meter is turned off. Just using nitter language to describe a nitter runner
 
ratking17 said:
Ok. I actually think Barkley is pretty good. But most have his stats are deceptive. 50+ of those yards against Ohio state came on one run in the 4th quarter. He only had 7 tds. Why? I don't think he is as good as elijah hood at unc who didn't get 100 yards on us last year.
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I loved Barkley Talent in High School and predicted he would be great in CFB at PSU way before anyone at PSU BWI too, No Brag just a Fact! I discussed this many times with TD that is very good PSU posters here. I am not being disloyal to Pitt or the Lair by saying Barkley will be better, bigger, faster, and more powerful than last year. If I argue with facts and support my arguments with Links that support my views, then I accept Facts as well about Pitt Challenges.

As well as, facts about Great aspects of other Football Programs, that includes PSU Program and Players since Reforms are now in since 2012 and it is a New Program without any Sanctions, in 2016? Hotshoe has a good point and right to defend and be proud of PSU, even if others disagree.

I make no apologies in respecting and recognizing PSU Posters own passions, and agree where I can, and when corrected if i give misinformation. This does not mean other Lair Posters are wrong either if they think Barkley may have a Sophomore Jinks. I just disagree, and think Pitt will a very tough time stopping him, and others can disagree with me.

Barkley along with all the Top Wrs, Rbs and if Qb McSorley are as good as I expect, they will give Pitt a tough game and can win too. New PSU OLC Limegrover has to be on Board with Moorhead, and both are Good Coaches, PSU is not an easy win for Pitt.

Yet, I am high on Pitt too, along with Michigan, OSU, MSU, Temple and Iowa. I think UMD and RU will be better too.Plus, Franklin just could not coach up Hackenberg and if Barkley has a down year, I assure you, it is due to coaching not talent?

Moreover, Pitt has it own challenges this year and far tougher schedule and won many close games too, and lost some too. One key injury to Pitt and could be a bad year? All I ask is for all Posters everywhere, to remember, the B1G Freshmen of the Year was BARKLEY! However, the ACC Freshmen of the year on Defense was WHITEHEAD.

If I could choose which one will be better in 2016, I would say both to be fair, but Coaching matters too! I know Narduzzi can coach up his Players, create great Game Plans, and have half time adjustments and all are back except New OC.Yet, 2016 is tougher for Coach Pat & Staff too.

PSU does have more talent than Pitt but they have 4 New Coaches at 4 positions, DC, DBC, OC and OLC! I am sure Franklin coaches up their players right now? Franklin is building his players to be bigger, faster, and experienced in the future, but he has to prove it too.

I just see a great game!
 
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aged_wolverine said:
Your DC is a nobody. Your name DC took a lateral move just to get away from the Franklin stench. Quit trying to lie to the folks. You sound like Hillary.


Nobody would swap Chesson, Darboh, and Jake Butt for the starting Wrs/TE of Penn State, and you would be an idiot to suggest otherwise. Chesson is the top ranked WR in the B1G, and Butt was an AA last yr. All 3 are seniors. Lest you forget, we have the best secondary in the B1G this yr as well, and defensive line as well.


Like I said, they have to play the game, but on paper, it is already a blow out. I will take Jim Harbaugh as a field leader over James Franklin every time....twice on Sundays.


The fact you are here trying to represent PSU as any better than 4th best, in their own division, is a joke. I suggest you get back to BWI if you do not wish to be called on your BS. PSU's ceiling is looking to be 8 wins this yr, and I am taking the under on that number.
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Nothing of what you said is true. Never once did I represent where PSU would end up. I also said our wr's may be the best in the B1G. You claim it. Our quality and depth at both rb and wr is very good. Amazing how you brag when just a couple years ago you had losing records. You also lost to a sanctioned Penn State team. We haven't had a losing record in 11 years. You have had three.
 
Hotshoe said:
Nothing of what you said is true. Never once did I represent where PSU would end up. I also said our wr's may be the best in the B1G. You claim it. Our quality and depth at both rb and wr is very good. Amazing how you brag when just a couple years ago you had losing records. You also lost to a sanctioned Penn State team. We haven't had a losing record in 11 years. You have had three.
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That "sanctioned" PSU team had an all pro quality future NFL WR that teams just cant stop, the aforementioned DL that has vacated the farm, and Oh yeah.....PSU had an future NFL head coach. The Lions were facing a guy that would be fired after the following season.


Fast forward to now.


It isn't Hoke vs BOB any longer. It is Harbaugh vs Franklin. Franklin, like your DC, hasn't done shit to impress folks. When they do, then feel free to chime in. Everyones team is the national champion before the season kicks off.


Well except for PSU. They know it will be a long fight to hit 4th in their division.


The sooner you accept reality, the better for all. That goes for other happenings in Happy Valley as well.
 
May help predict the season for B1G Michigan & how Penn State Franklin is up against Harbaugh Expectations. Good discussion and good to see PSU-UM posters can do it on the Lair to share with all of us. I am looking forward to this game as much as Pitt-Psu?
EXCERPTS:
Jim Harbaugh gets it: Past the bluster, Michigan's coach knows he has to win
Known more for his tweets and punchlines than his wins, the Wolverines' half-genius, half-wacko coach understands that he still has to make Michigan a winner
"I've been made fun of pretty much since I can remember, since I was little," Harbaugh said. "Today, yesterday, my whole life. It's going to happen to everybody ..."But you can't let that get you down. You can't let that keep you down. It's the thought that you should set your dreams so big that everybody laughs at them. If nobody is laughing at them, you haven't set your goals high enough."Everybody has critics. Well, screw 'em. They're irrelevant. I think it's the same way as a football team."........................
Harbaugh has to win at a high rate. That includes championships, preferably. And he's got to do it soon. That's why former interim athletic director Jim Hackett bum-rushed Harbaugh from the start. The coach's track record just about guarantees all of the above. A 10-3 season is a good start. Now in his second season, the Wolverines are favored by some to win the Big Ten......... "Nothing will make you feel like a man going into another man's stadium, beating them, beating their crowd, beating the elements," Harbaugh said. "Nothing will make you feel more like a man than that."
LINK:
http://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...the-cartoon-michigans-coach-knows-his-charge/
 
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PineIslandLion said:
Narduzzi D with more speed than the Buckeyes D last year, where Barkley ran for 193 and had a 45 yard TD run negated by penalty?
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Last year Barkley had the deep passing threat of Hackenburg (yes I know he stunk but it still kept defenses honest) where as this year defenses will be jamming the line forcing the qb to beat them.

With that line, a new offense being installed and Barkley may have a little rough sledding at times this year. Great back though!!!
 
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You know the best part, it gets DECIDED on the field this year. Not on message boards, that's a beautiful thing. The winner gets bragging rights, loser gets to pound salt.

1. We're the fav.
2. We return 16 starters
2b. We play early in the year
3. We're at home
4. Fraud 2 cannot coach on Saturdays

We better not lose this game.
 
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Barkley definitely is average and I would say Ollison and Connor are head and shoulders better than he is
 
Pantherman43 said:
Last year Barkley had the deep passing threat of Hackenburg (yes I know he stunk but it still kept defenses honest) where as this year defenses will be jamming the line forcing the qb to beat them.

With that line, a new offense being installed and Barkley may have a little rough sledding at times this year. Great back though!!!
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Excellent point, often a Sophomore Jinx happens as Coaches and Players last year prepare better for Barkley this year?

Happen to Tony Dorsett in his Sophomore Year when he just gained over a few 1004 Yards, he was hit much harder and Teams were ready for him as he was becoming bigger and faster.

If Barkley thinks he is going to surprise Defenses at Michigan, MSU, Maryland, OSU Temple, and Rutgers this year they already know how good he is and will prepare extra special for him as they should.

Now maybe Pitt, Iowa, and Minnesota will learn a lesson or two, but one can be sure Coach Pat Narduzzi will be talking to MSU's Coach Dantonio and Tressel all about how to stop or keep Barkley from running wild, and unfortunately Barkley is so frigging talented that may not help either????

Boy, I bet Ruther Fans hate it that Barkley de-committed from the scarlet Knights and went to the Nittany Lions, I know i wish Givens and Bowers had stay with Pitt, but wish them well too, except on September 10th, no wishing injuries but hope Pitt Players out play them for just that one game! :eek:
 
HailToPitt1985 said:
From everything I can see, there are at least 5 RB's in the ACC better than Barkley. 2 of them are at Pitt. And I'm being conservative.
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That kid, Barkley, is as fast as a bat that is coming out of Hell like a shot....blazing speed. He hit us huge for his first run, and was kept in check the rest of the afternoon. It actually surprised me, as I wasn't aware of how fast he was.


They say he worked on body strength this off season. With that speed, if he gets where he can break tackles, it could be a potent combo. Granted, I don't see that line opening holes, but after the turn around our O line had last yr, it isn't out of the realm of possibilities.

I doubt it, as our starters were multi yr starters, besides being highly rated recruits. But ya never know. Stranger things have happened.

I don't know their entire schedule, but I would think 8-4 would be the ceiling...losses to Michigan, Sparty, the Buckeyes, and Pitt.
 
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="aged_wolverine, post: 1452986, member: 2694"]That kid, Barkley, is as fast as a bat that is coming out of Hell like a shot....blazing speed. He hit us huge for his first run, and was kept in check the rest of the afternoon. It actually surprised me, as I wasn't aware of how fast he was.
Good point and has been working in the weight room and has gotten faster my long ears tells me. I saw his High School Tapes and told TD a PSU Poster that comes here, Barkley is maybe the Second Best if not the Best RB in National 2015 Recruiting Class not just Penn State Class.

They say he worked on body strength this off season. With that speed, if he gets where he can break tackles, it could be a potent combo. Granted, I don't see that line opening holes, but after the turn around our O line had last yr, it isn't out of the realm of possibilities.

It is not just that, McSorley can Run and Throw and Throw on the Run and Penn Satte Wideouts have the ability to run great routes and can also make big runs off of short catches, and can catch the High Percentage Passes and Deep Balls if they are near them unlike last year? Most of the time Hack was pressured to rush a throw or Sacked. Now PSU has good WRs and RBs with a QB that fits their style better than OL having to protect Hack the Pocket Passer. Last year when Hack ran he often got the First Down but got beat up doing it too often. Franklin dd not care about him that happening either, why he left in my opinion.

I doubt it, as our starters were multi yr starters, besides being highly rated recruits. But ya never know. Stranger things have happened.
I am not worried about Michigan's Defense they have more Talent and Harbaugh knows how to use, but Narduzzi knows how to defend it too, but maybe lacks the talent and experience compared to Michigan. Why I really wanted Hudson and Harbaugh got him?

I don't know their entire schedule, but I would think 8-4 would be the ceiling...losses to Michigan, Sparty, the Buckeyes, and Pitt.
Franklin will kiss Moorhead if he gets Franklin 8 Wins! If that happens could be 9 Wins! It is not so much how Barkley is going to do, I expect he will be great. it is what McSorley does under OC Moorhead and how fast they learn that system with their talent?
 
aged_wolverine said:
That "sanctioned" PSU team had an all pro quality future NFL WR that teams just cant stop, the aforementioned DL that has vacated the farm, and Oh yeah.....PSU had an future NFL head coach. The Lions were facing a guy that would be fired after the following season.


Fast forward to now.


It isn't Hoke vs BOB any longer. It is Harbaugh vs Franklin. Franklin, like your DC, hasn't done shit to impress folks. When they do, then feel free to chime in. Everyones team is the national champion before the season kicks off.


Well except for PSU. They know it will be a long fight to hit 4th in their division.


The sooner you accept reality, the better for all. That goes for other happenings in Happy Valley as well.
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Do you even realize what you write? You're one excuse after another. We lost our starting rb and wr amongst others. Those are facts. It's amazing how you think you're so great all of a sudden. So Hoke is an excuse now. Who the hell are you to say anything. All you've done is brag up your program with a bunch of bs. You've done nothing. Furthermore, you've had three losing seasons since 05. Now you're great. Okay, we'll all bow down now.
 
HailToPitt1985 said:
From everything I can see, there are at least 5 RB's in the ACC better than Barkley. 2 of them are at Pitt. And I'm being conservative.
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Barkley is outstanding. You let your hate of all things PSU color your opinion of him IMO. I think James Conner his Sophomore year was better than Barkley, having amassed almost 1,800 yds and 26 TD's. Ollision was better than I expected but Barkley has a higher ceiling because of his speed relative to QO.
 
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http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...nford-oklahoma-tennessee-florida-state-080416
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That's nice to be in that list but with that offensive line and installing a new offense I doubt the production match the expectations especially without a deep threat passing qb (Hackenburg stunk I know but he was still a deep threat).

I expect most defenses to stack the line and to try to limit Barkley and make the qb and the quick passing offense beat them.

Not being a homer but being realistic here, I would take Pitt's running backs and offensive line over the nits running backs and offensive line. You can call me old school but I believe that it all starts up front, on both sides of the ball.
 
pittguy81 said:
Barkley is outstanding. You let your hate of all things PSU color your opinion of him IMO. I think James Conner his Sophomore year was better than Barkley, having amassed almost 1,800 yds and 26 TD's. Ollision was better than I expected but Barkley has a higher ceiling because of his speed relative to QO.
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Agree, but I am going on Record now the biggest Player that might be the Best on September 10th will be Jordan Whitehead!
 
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OFFENSE


offensive line: pitt's is so much better than psu's period end of story. big advantage PITT

qb: have to give the edge to the experienced starter in peterman but mcsorely is not a total bum. advantage PITT

rb: if james conner is anywhere near 100% the advantage is slightly pitt. barkley is one of the best backs in the country but so is conner if he's in 2014 form and pitt has better depth at the position. barkley is that damn good + miles sanders could see action. slight advantage PITT

te: i don't know much about psu's TEs but pitt has a pretty good one in orndoff. unfortunately basically no one behind him. if psu has any TE depth at all gotta give them the edge here. advantage PSU

wr: psu just based on proven talent. maybe henderson and tipton will be great speedsters making grabs all over the field but they have to actually go out and show it first. advantage PSU


DEFENSE:


defensive line: psu lost a lot of talent from last year's unit and it is more even than it would have been thanks to pitt adding hendrix but i still think overall psu's is a little better. slight advantage PSU

lb: psu definitely better here unless some true freshmen take the field for pitt and shock everybody. big advantage PSU

secondary: psu doesn't have a great secondary but it doesn't have a bad one either. if damar hamlin gets onto the field and minimizes true freshman mistakes, i gotta take a unit that has him and jordan whitehead over psu's secondary. advantage PITT


SPECIAL TEAMS:


punter: just by going off stat lines, ryan winslow is just a wee bit better than pasquariello or however you spell the psu punter's name. very slight advantage PITT

kickoffs: blewitt is pretty consistent on getting touchbacks, better at it than any of the kickers PSU has on roster. advantage PITT

field goals: joey julius did better than blewitt last year, so did tyler davis. psu has the edge here. advantage PSU

punt / kickoff returns: pitt had a better average yardage on kickoff returns than psu, psu had a better average yardage on punt returns. push.

overall: i think Pitt is definitely the better team + has home field this year, but not overwhelmingly so. any and all outcomes here are possible sept. 10th.
 
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Good find and thanks for posting it and I agree with the Article! I am glad Pitt will have to meet those Challenges against North Carolina and Penn State!

As well as, WVU will have to handle the same Challenges against Baylor and Oklahoma!

Pitt cannot become on the Best of Teams in College Football without playing against the Best Teams in College Football, Penn State and UNC will offer such competition too, and Thank you for the opportunity to prepare and see if they can stop these Two, Three, or Four Dynamic Runners?

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North Carolina

I gave plenty of thought to a few schools for this spot because of their top back (Clemson, Washington, USF, San Diego State and Boise State), but ultimately I went with UNC because of Elijah Hood. The Tar Heels, who return four of their five starting O-linemen, should have a very dynamic offense. The star is Hood, who ran for almost 1,500 yards last season on close to a seven-yard average. The 220-pound Hood averaged 7.34 yards a carry on first downs. Senior T.J. Logan, who ran for over 1,000 yards in his first two seasons at UNC, adds to a potent 1-2 punch.


Penn State
Saquon Barkley is the most impressive running back to hit State College in years. Last year, the 223-pounder ran for 1,076 yards, breaking a 32-year-old school record for a freshman. He’s a special combination of explosive power and quickness. Andre Robinson is a redshirt freshman bowling ball who had an impressive spring showing off his power and soft hands. He, though, will be pushed hard by freshman Miles Sanders, a guy with fantastic change of direction.

Saquon, Andre, and Miles, Oh My.........as Eujan, Matt, And Jordan will have their Hands Full all game long!

Watch out too, Connor, Ollison, and Whitehead might have an edge in that game too since playing together longer? The "Pitt Golden Trinity" playing across from the Golden Triangle against the "Penn State Three"may be one for the Ages to see and marvel at on September 10th!

Pitt only has to win by 1 point, good see both Teams & Players could have a shoot out, run over, and wide passing routes and hope we don't see a rout of either Team!
 
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steel_curtain, post: 1460903, member: 5476"]-Could care less about fox. The ACC ALL TIME single season TD record is 26 TD's in a season, which is set by James Conner.

-I cannot wait until he goes for 200+ yards against Penn State's defensive line. I expect him to annihilate it. Man I love watching this video. Hammer Time.

Watch out for Pitt's Golden Trinity of Running Backs on September 10th......The SLY, The SLICK, & The WICKED!

I leave the Lair & BWI Posters to choose what Running Back Players will earn those Names for future Fame!

PITT"s
The SLY...........Ollison!:confused:
The SLICK.....Whitehead!!o_O
The WICKED..........Connor!!!:cool:

Versus

PENN STATE's
The REAL DEAL......Saquon!:mad:
The NEW DEAL............Miles!!:eek:
The BIG BULL..............Andre!!!:(

See the Pitt & Penn State Defenses playing Ketchup on Heinz Field on September 10th.....WE ARE.......PITT IS IT!.........and see you all soon!

Meanwhile, Pitt & Penn State Fans will be soon be singing this below to each other!





 
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It is not just one group of Running Backs from Penn State or Pitt to assess the coming Game. It is also, about strengths and weakness on both Team's Coaches, Game Plans, Players Unit Execution, and some unknowns in just being the Second Game?

Unit Analysis by player's talent, experience and previous year coaching. Penn State will have a stronger Defense with more 2 of 3 Units experience at Linebackers and Secondary to defend against Pitt Running Backs and unknown Pitt Wideouts that won't have Tyler Boyd and will have a New Pitt OC in Canada that may require some adjustments.

On The Pitt positive sides is that Pitt's QB is far more experience and fits in with Pitt's New OC but also Pitt's Offensive Line is far more experience and more powerful to take on Penn State's New Defensive Line as well as open up holes for Pitt's great Running Backs and that should favor Pitt in the second game.

At the same time, Penn State Defensive Line will be having to form a New Defensive Line to stop those Pitt Running Backs, pressure and sack Pitt's QB is unknown. How the Pitt Wideouts do will also be unknown until Game Day but Villanova and Kent State games will give some hints. Penn State also may have challenges on the Special Teams compared to Pitt having advantage just based on seeing last years performances?

Unit By Unit Analysis For Pitt-Penn State Game:
Coaching Favors Pitt:
Coaching for once in a long time favors Pitt that has them all back except for the OC. Penn State Coaching Staff will be adjusting to 3 New Coaches in OC's Moorhead, OLC Limegrover, and DBC Banks on top of LBC Pry going to DC for Penn State Defense.

I. COACHING:
Favors Pitt Since Less New Coaches
Sideline Coaching Favors Pitt Just Better As Seen Last Year
Have Time Adjustments Favors Pitt: Just Better As Seen Last Year
New OC's Even Both New But Pitt OC Has Worked With Narduzzi
Coaching Synopsis: PITT
Pitt Head Coach Narduzzi has worked with OC Canada previously than Penn State Head Coach Franklin has worked with OC Moorhead. New OLC Limegrover taking over the PSU OL will have to adjust too, more than Pitt OLC in his second year with a more experience OL. Penn State New DC Pry also has to adjust along with incorporating a New DBC in Banks. In addition, Pitt's Pat & Staff are known for bold risk taking that worked last year late in the games on Iowa, GT, and Cuse games. Pitt players even when behind in Iowa, UNC, Miami, and ND losses came back and almost won 3 of those games? Only Navy beat Pitt from First Quarter to Last showing Pitt was unprepared both coaching and execution by the end of first Quarter and entire game. Compared to Coach Franklin & Staff that was often beaten by Half-Time or shortly into the Third Quarter in Temple, Michigan, OSU, and blown away by MSU. Penn State gave Georgia a good game even losing Hack Attack as McSorley did very well which should be remembered by Pitt coaches this year. However, Georgia was coached by a Staff almost gone and still won with ease?

II. OFFENSE:
Offensive Units Favor Pitt
Quarterback Favors Pitt More Experience But New OC
Offensive Line Favors Pitt Played Together More Experience
Running Backs Even Both Very Good To Great But Pitt OL Better
Wideouts Favors Penn State Talent, Speed & Experience
Tight End Favors Pitt Block, Catch & Run After Catch
Offensive Synopsis: PITT
Although Talent favors Penn State the experience Pitt has together with all positions except Wideouts along with Stable Staff of Coaches give Pitt an edge here. Especially, with Pitt OL versus PSU DL. Still, Penn state is putting in a whole new Moorhead's Offensive System with a New Inexperience QB with questions on OL? Yet, PSU Linebackers and Secondary are more experienced but with 2 Coaches assuming new positions meaning they will have to adjust while learning together with players on execution?

III. DEFENSE:
Defensive Units Favor Penn State
Defensive Line Favors Pitt As PSU Has Some New Players & Pitt OL Vets
Linebackers Favors PSU Bigger, Faster, Cover & Tackle More Experience
Secondary Favors PSU All DBs Back With Experience But New DBC
Defensive Synopsis: PENN STATE
Although Pitt may have an edge of its OL versus Penn State's DL. Penn State has true advantages at Linebackers and Secondary experience, talent, speed, and could be tougher for Pitt QB, OL, and Running Backs without knowing how Pitt Wideouts will be doing by the second game. Penn State has more talent and experience to execute the Defense Coaching favors Pitt since new coaching players adjustments needed? If Penn State does come up with a Defensive Line it will be tougher on Pitt Offense unless they do have Wideouts that come through way more than expected in the second game?

IV. SPECIAL TEAMS
Favors PITT
Punting Unit Should Favor Pitt Coverages:
Punt Running Back could favor Penn State depends on Roster Choices
Kickoffs Should Be Even
Kick Off should favor Pitt Coverages but PSU has RB Talent
Field Goals should favor Pitt until PSU improves from last year
Special Teams Synopsis: PITT
This is a tougher Unit to compare and gauge until we know the final roster. Pitt Coaching was better on Special Teams than Penn State last year. Pitt was able to Block Punts, Fake Punts that made 1st downs, and kept Drives alive. Pitt has far better consistent Field Goal Kicking and Pitt's Special Teams Coach is just flat out better than Penn State and one of the best in College Football. I suspect Whitehead and Ffrench should be a tad better due to better Special Teams Coaching, but Penn State has loads of talent with speed for Special Teams?

Big Unknowns Analysis:
Both New OC?
Rosters Not Finalized??
Only the Second Game???
Weather Should Be Great????
Refs Tight or Loose Game Calls?????
Home Field Advantage Should Be Even??????
Could Be More Fights In The Stands Among Fans If One Teams Gets Big Lead???????

Previous Pitt-Penn State Football Series Era Comparison Today:
Usually Penn State's Paterno Era Non-Compliance Many Pitt Heatbreak Losses!
Today, Pitt's Pat Narduzzi Era Does Not Care What Happen Yesterday Just Today!

Current Prediction Analysis:
PITT Wins By 3 In Late Kick In High Scoring Game!
Or
PENN STATE Wins By 3 In A Low Scoring Game!!
 
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pittguy81 said:
Barkley is outstanding. You let your hate of all things PSU color your opinion of him IMO. I think James Conner his Sophomore year was better than Barkley, having amassed almost 1,800 yds and 26 TD's. Ollision was better than I expected but Barkley has a higher ceiling because of his speed relative to QO.
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Michigan & Penn State have two of the Largest Stadiums in America and Top 15 Programs in Resources in NCAA FBS History, and great Academics with superb Alumni. No wonder you'll crack some heads going up against each other every year.

Pitt will not be that big and is more on the level of Northwestern, Arizona, Miami, Georgia Tech, Boston College, Vanderbilt, Duke, TCU, and Baylor.

Pitt will at best if successful may reach the Wisconsin, MSU, Virginia, KSU, Iowa, UCLA, South Carolina and WVU Program level someday.

Whereby, Pitt can win 10+ games per year with 60,000+ Attendance and be a Top 25 Team & Top 25 Program.

So, I expect the Banter to fly from Fans like the both of you where you can do it on the Lair. Still, both Universities are also Blessed, to have so many Recruiting Resources and the only thing that will continue to separate you two Giants are Elite and Great Coaching that will continue to go in cycles over the years.

The History of Michigan-Penn State Series 12-7 Michigan Favor For Now
1993-1996 Paterno 3-1 Against Moeller 1-1 & Lloyd 0-2!
1997-2007 Lloyd 9-0 Against Paterno 0-9!
2008-2013 Paterno & O'Brien 4-0 Against Rodriguez 0-3 & Hoke 0-1!
2014-2015 Harbaugh & Hoke 2-0 Against Franklin 0-2!

Meanwhile, the Money keeps rolling in for both Top Programs and many other Sports too. No Envy from this Pitt Fan just Admiration!
 
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bobfree said:
Going from a pro style offense to a spread can be a real challenge.

Especially when the coaching staff isn't that strong.

Early game on the road they will struggle.

And we will pound the ball on them.

26-13 Pitt
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I agree with this...
PSU may end up with a good offense next year, but it's going to struggle early on, and we get them game 2.
 
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phxpanther said:
I laugh when people talk about how good McSorley looked in the bowl. The fact is, he entered the game when UGA had a big lead, and were playing soft on defense.

Secondly, he was 14/27 which is awful, and only averaged 5.3 yards per attempt, which is embarrassingly bad. He did have two TDs though.

I hope he plays that "well" against Pitt
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Mcsorley played terribly against the worst UGA team you may ever see...

UGA fired their coach...PSU lost to a handful of position coaches. Lol. Pathetic
 
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aged_wolverine said:
That "sanctioned" PSU team had an all pro quality future NFL WR that teams just cant stop, the aforementioned DL that has vacated the farm, and Oh yeah.....PSU had an future NFL head coach. The Lions were facing a guy that would be fired after the following season.


Fast forward to now.


It isn't Hoke vs BOB any longer. It is Harbaugh vs Franklin. Franklin, like your DC, hasn't done shit to impress folks. When they do, then feel free to chime in. Everyones team is the national champion before the season kicks off.




Well except for PSU. They know it will be a long fight to hit 4th in their division.


The sooner you accept reality, the better for all. That goes for other happenings in Happy Valley as well.
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I gotta agree with all this PSU vs Michigan talk...

Harbaugh will embarrass James Franklin 99 out of 100 times..... same with Urban Meyer and Dantonio for that matter.
 
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