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Out of Pittsburgh's Schenley High School.
Yep, in that same Era Mercury Morris was from Pittsburgh Area and Chuck Muncie and Po James!
Larry Brown had some a great years but worn out sooner due to his style of running, Campbell can't walk today! One reason why Franco lasted so long, he often went out of bounds to save his legs and hips, and knees, smart RB.
Aged-Wolverine,
There are good Nittany Lion Alumni & Fans out there and they respect a good game and university.
There is only one way to shut them up, beat them, beat Joe Paterno, and then have a better record in Wins. Your sin is Michigan has done that and why you are banned on BWI. They can't defend against it so they stay away and do not not want to be reminded!
Pitt fell behind because it cared about Academics and quick being a Leader in CFB after 1939 when it was Top 14 Team In wins and eliminated Football Scholarships. Penn State from 1869 to 1939 Ranked 57th, Michigan was 5th.
Pitt later re-established Football Scholarships in 1950s, but in 1960s, Pitt, Cuse, WVU, and PSU all agreed to Big Four Agreement that limit Football Scholarships to 25 per school per year. (Later adopted by the NCAA in 1970s. Paterno violated this Agreement by bringing in 35 Red-shirts every year while Cuse, Pitt, and WVU limited Red-shirts to 10 Medical and Joe dominated the east that way until Pitt dropped out in 1972 and went big time before NCAA Limits came in 1975.
Pitt then the had a brief Decade Top Ten Renaissance in 1970-80s. Still, Pitt has more NFL All Pros Record Setters, Hall of Fames and Higher Percentage Winning Coaches than PSU even during the Paterno Era. This also shuts up a Nittany Lion Fans, and Michigan has them beat at that too.
Now the only way to shut up a Nittany Liar Cult Fan is just tell the Truth about Penn State Football Program Paterno Era Scandal, Sanctions, and Winning without NCAA Institutional Control, Big-10 Educational Compliance's, and Federal Educational Laws requiring Penn State Reforms under a NCAA Monitor Oversight. This involved Penn State University Football Culture built on Nittany Lies before Sandusky and during Paterno's Tenure There own Trustees and President, Athletic Director had to correct what Paterno did and did not do!
However, the Penn State Reforms are in, Paterno was fired and is gone, and all can move on and enjoy the competition with Penn State in compliance again.
I still Recognize, Respect and Admire Paterno for being Hard Working, Attention to Detail, Elite Coach with many Accomplishments of Autumn well deserved in College Football as far as a Coach!
What Nittany Liars refuse to recognize and can't understand no one can admire, condone, and accept the way Paterno ran Paterno's Football Program in secret, omissions to rules and laws, and outright refusal to protect children over the Program in his quests to win 409 games!
The Day Joseph Vincent Paterno put himself, his ego, and his demands over Penn State University was the hours, days, and years he ruined his own legacy and Joe knew it and cried about it before he died.
True Intelligent Penn State Nittany Lion Alumni always put the University and the education they well deserved and earned ahead of anyone else and that includes Paterno Errors, Secrets & Omissions and parsing of his own truth too?
The Ignorant and arrogant Nittany Liar Cultist many that never graduated from Penn State University don't understand why Paterno's 409 is really a clean up of a dirty Program under his own direction and ended up Shaming Penn State and Paterno name and they refuse to accept it?
Pitt Alumni & Fans knew this before any University and any Program in the Big Ten as all of you know by now, that Pitt Posters were right all along and just told the Truth over those hidden Nittany Lies!
Pitt Fans knew because Paterno lied about why he ended one of College Football Historical Series and put himself above that too, like he did to Penn State University? Unlike many Penn State Nittany Liars want to believe it was always about Joe Paterno doing anything in anyway he wanted at anytime, and people like that hurt everyone around them.
Penn State Reforms are in and Pitt & Michigan are playing Penn State University again that now follows all the Rules, and I can admire Paterno's Coaching Persona, but not worship Paterno's Program Problems only he created.
The Penn State Paterno Coaching Era had many great achievements of success and due rightful recognition even winning 409!
The Penn State Paterno Football Program Errors did not have Honor and the Victim's of Voices revealed Joe Knew and did nothing for years to correct it and 409 is a sorry replacement for a lost reputation?
Joe is dead and buried, O'Brien moved away, and now Franklin is taking on Harbaugh not Hoke, Narduzzi too, and may the Best Teams Wins?
There are good Nittany Lion Alumni & Fans out there and they respect a good game and university.
There is only one way to shut them up, beat them, beat Joe Paterno, and then have a better record in Wins. Your sin is Michigan has done that and why you are banned on BWI. They can't defend against it so they stay away and do not not want to be reminded!
Pitt fell behind because it cared about Academics and quick being a Leader in CFB after 1939 when it was Top 14 Team In wins and eliminated Football Scholarships. Penn State from 1869 to 1939 Ranked 57th, Michigan was 5th.
Pitt later re-established Football Scholarships in 1950s, but in 1960s, Pitt, Cuse, WVU, and PSU all agreed to Big Four Agreement that limit Football Scholarships to 25 per school per year. (Later adopted by the NCAA in 1970s. Paterno violated this Agreement by bringing in 35 Red-shirts every year while Cuse, Pitt, and WVU limited Red-shirts to 10 Medical and Joe dominated the east that way until Pitt dropped out in 1972 and went big time before NCAA Limits came in 1975.
Pitt then the had a brief Decade Top Ten Renaissance in 1970-80s. Still, Pitt has more NFL All Pros Record Setters, Hall of Fames and Higher Percentage Winning Coaches than PSU even during the Paterno Era. This also shuts up a Nittany Lion Fans, and Michigan has them beat at that too.
Now the only way to shut up a Nittany Liar Cult Fan is just tell the Truth about Penn State Football Program Paterno Era Scandal, Sanctions, and Winning without NCAA Institutional Control, Big-10 Educational Compliance's, and Federal Educational Laws requiring Penn State Reforms under a NCAA Monitor Oversight. This involved Penn State University Football Culture built on Nittany Lies before Sandusky and during Paterno's Tenure There own Trustees and President, Athletic Director had to correct what Paterno did and did not do!
However, the Penn State Reforms are in, Paterno was fired and is gone, and all can move on and enjoy the competition with Penn State in compliance again.
I still Recognize, Respect and Admire Paterno for being Hard Working, Attention to Detail, Elite Coach with many Accomplishments of Autumn well deserved in College Football as far as a Coach!
What Nittany Liars refuse to recognize and can't understand no one can admire, condone, and accept the way Paterno ran Paterno's Football Program in secret, omissions to rules and laws, and outright refusal to protect children over the Program in his quests to win 409 games!
The Day Joseph Vincent Paterno put himself, his ego, and his demands over Penn State University was the hours, days, and years he ruined his own legacy and Joe knew it and cried about it before he died.
True Intelligent Penn State Nittany Lion Alumni always put the University and the education they well deserved and earned ahead of anyone else and that includes Paterno Errors, Secrets & Omissions and parsing of his own truth too?
The Ignorant and arrogant Nittany Liar Cultist many that never graduated from Penn State University don't understand why Paterno's 409 is really a clean up of a dirty Program under his own direction and ended up Shaming Penn State and Paterno name and they refuse to accept it?
Pitt Alumni & Fans knew this before any University and any Program in the Big Ten as all of you know by now, that Pitt Posters were right all along and just told the Truth over those hidden Nittany Lies!
Pitt Fans knew because Paterno lied about why he ended one of College Football Historical Series and put himself above that too, like he did to Penn State University? Unlike many Penn State Nittany Liars want to believe it was always about Joe Paterno doing anything in anyway he wanted at anytime, and people like that hurt everyone around them.
Penn State Reforms are in and Pitt & Michigan are playing Penn State University again that now follows all the Rules, and I can admire Paterno's Coaching Persona, but not worship Paterno's Program Problems only he created.
The Penn State Paterno Coaching Era had many great achievements of success and due rightful recognition even winning 409!
The Penn State Paterno Football Program Errors did not have Honor and the Victim's of Voices revealed Joe Knew and did nothing for years to correct it and 409 is a sorry replacement for a lost reputation?
Joe is dead and buried, O'Brien moved away, and now Franklin is taking on Harbaugh not Hoke, Narduzzi too, and may the Best Teams Wins?
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If I was to compare units, I would give advantage to the following:
QB - Pitt
RB - PSU (I don't think Connor will be 100% by then... he will be better in the 2nd half of the season)
TE - PUSH
WR - PSU
OL - Pitt
DL - Pitt
LB - PSU
DB - Push
I think it could be a tight game. I respect Matt Canada's play calling, but I think that Moorhead is the better OC. Narduzzi obviously gets the nod on the defensive side.
QB - Pitt
RB - PSU (I don't think Connor will be 100% by then... he will be better in the 2nd half of the season)
TE - PUSH
WR - PSU
OL - Pitt
DL - Pitt
LB - PSU
DB - Push
I think it could be a tight game. I respect Matt Canada's play calling, but I think that Moorhead is the better OC. Narduzzi obviously gets the nod on the defensive side.
"we" ate that d alive....lol. and just what position do you play on the team ?? YOU didn't do a damn thing. You probably get winded just walking to the mailbox. Also, why are you constantly in the middle of pitt/penn state discussions. You know exactlly who Dan Conner is. Doesn't it bother you that Pitts head coach absolutely owned the mighty wolverines while he was a DC at msu?
I think that's a fair assessment at this point. To be objective , this will be a hard game to call which is what makes this so much fun. The worst thing that could happen to penn state is that the offense sputters and pitt is able to establish a running game and burn clock. The worst thing that could happen to pitt is that the penn state offense is legit and they go down early by a couple of scores. Pitt has to be able to utilize their run game. I don't think a boydless pitt is geared up for any kind of substantial comeback and this will be Connors first game against an FBS opponent since the 2014 season. I do like pitts O line, more so the left side than the right. I think the 12pm start negates the home field advantage a little. Just some random thoughts from a psu fan. Early games are often decided by mistakes and this one will be probably no different. Should be fun.
"getmyjive11, post: 1466789, member: 7455"]If I was to compare units, I would give advantage to the following:
QB - Pitt
Agree, due to Experience.
RB - PSU (I don't think Connor will be 100% by then... he will be better in the 2nd half of the season)
Even but edge to PSU.
TE - PUSH
I favor Pitt, Orndoff is big, fast, and can run after the catch and block, slight edge to Pitt.
WR - PSU
Agree, Not even close Right Now, Pitt has to show they have them, PSU has Great talent at WR. PSU has two Boyds in my opinion and another 2 Bryants.
OL - Pitt
Agree, By far favors Pitt due to experience, but PSU has talent, New OLC can fix that and we shall see?
DL - Pitt
Same as above on OL, but PSU DC Pry has talent but just needs to get New Starters together.
LB - PSU
By far, they have speed, smarts, and size to cover and stop the run & pressure QB.
DB - Push
Disagree, Favors PSU has everyone back except 1 position. Pitt needs to find a few back there and Whitehead does double duty on O & D?.
I think it could be a tight game. I respect Matt Canada's play calling, but I think that Moorhead is the better OC. Narduzzi obviously gets the nod on the defensive side.
Agree, but none of us know until we see that game? i see a close game either way!
Good Post Thank You!
QB - Pitt
Agree, due to Experience.
RB - PSU (I don't think Connor will be 100% by then... he will be better in the 2nd half of the season)
Even but edge to PSU.
TE - PUSH
I favor Pitt, Orndoff is big, fast, and can run after the catch and block, slight edge to Pitt.
WR - PSU
Agree, Not even close Right Now, Pitt has to show they have them, PSU has Great talent at WR. PSU has two Boyds in my opinion and another 2 Bryants.
OL - Pitt
Agree, By far favors Pitt due to experience, but PSU has talent, New OLC can fix that and we shall see?
DL - Pitt
Same as above on OL, but PSU DC Pry has talent but just needs to get New Starters together.
LB - PSU
By far, they have speed, smarts, and size to cover and stop the run & pressure QB.
DB - Push
Disagree, Favors PSU has everyone back except 1 position. Pitt needs to find a few back there and Whitehead does double duty on O & D?.
I think it could be a tight game. I respect Matt Canada's play calling, but I think that Moorhead is the better OC. Narduzzi obviously gets the nod on the defensive side.
Agree, but none of us know until we see that game? i see a close game either way!
Good Post Thank You!
="jake418, post: 1467245, member: 6212"]I think that's a fair assessment at this point. To be objective , this will be a hard game to call which is what makes this so much fun. The worst thing that could happen to penn state is that the offense sputters and pitt is able to establish a running game and burn clock.
The worst thing that could happen to pitt is that the penn state offense is legit and they go down early by a couple of scores.
Agree, and either team could take a big lead with few plays going either way, due to big play mistakes or execution?
Pitt has to be able to utilize their run game. I don't think a boydless pitt is geared up for any kind of substantial comeback and this will be Connors first game against an FBS opponent since the 2014 season.
Good point, but I see Whitehead may be used to offset that too? Don't know if that will happen.
I do like pitts O line, more so the left side than the right. I think the 12pm start negates the home field advantage a little. Just some random thoughts from a psu fan. Early games are often decided by mistakes and this one will be probably no different. Should be fun.
Excellent Analysis and we won't know until how we see how the coaches Coach game Plans and Players Execute, and why such a hard game to predict?
The worst thing that could happen to pitt is that the penn state offense is legit and they go down early by a couple of scores.
Agree, and either team could take a big lead with few plays going either way, due to big play mistakes or execution?
Pitt has to be able to utilize their run game. I don't think a boydless pitt is geared up for any kind of substantial comeback and this will be Connors first game against an FBS opponent since the 2014 season.
Good point, but I see Whitehead may be used to offset that too? Don't know if that will happen.
I do like pitts O line, more so the left side than the right. I think the 12pm start negates the home field advantage a little. Just some random thoughts from a psu fan. Early games are often decided by mistakes and this one will be probably no different. Should be fun.
Excellent Analysis and we won't know until how we see how the coaches Coach game Plans and Players Execute, and why such a hard game to predict?
If you weren't such a sensitive needle dick, and had actually read my posting here, you would know I long ago said I was happy Dant and Nard had been split, and I gave Nard the utmost props for his time at MSU.
If I break the rules of the forum, feel free to point it out. That said, welcome to ignore ya 15 post insecure wonder.
Yeh Moorehead is better which is why he was a UConn and then Fordham while Canada was at Wisconsin and NC State.
Hmmmnnnn, good point and Canada OC in D-I FBS Power Conferences unlike Moorhead?
Canada put 40+ on Clemson last year while Moorehead put 40+ on Army last year. Since he put more points up on Army than the nits did last year this makes him the better OC which is a crock.
I'll give it to these nits, they have guzzled, gushed and swallowed the Moorehead kool-aid to the point if they struggle against Kent State there will probably be a mass meltdown of epic proportion. A loss to Pitt would cause the McAndrew board to shut down.
Listen, I see why they are all giddy like a kid waiting on a quarter from the tooth fairy.
They have receivers and running backs and think PRESTO instant offense, however, they are installing a new offense with a new quarterback who's claim to fame is scoring 2 4th quarter td's against a Georgia team that was playing out the season with a skeleton coaching staff then putting a smack down on the second team defense in the spring game which looked more like a scout team than a second team big 10 defense.
Their offensive line is lacking and I expect defenses to crowd the line to stop Barkley while making the new qb beat them. I think the better defensive lines will give them all kind of fits and there will be growing pains for them whether they like it or not.
It would not surprise me at all to see the nits get pushed around for the most of the season. If the offense isn't sustaining drives the defense will never last the season.
Vegas has their win total at 6.5 for a reason. Even if Moorehead is the second coming.
Pretty decent observation Jive. Now granted I'm a homer but I expect Pitt to have a huge advantage on both lines which could control the game. IF Pitt doesn't give up the home run play I think they will solidly win. If not then it could get interesting.
Personally I'm glad the game is early in the year with the nits learning a new offense and I really hope it is a hot humid day. As I stated before, if Pitt can push the nits defensive front around and open sustain drives I think they will wear the nits down which could allow running lanes which could pop big plays.
I think (would hope) that Canada knows the strengths of this team and will run, run, run run and run some more. Pitt has the line and capable backs with a healthy Conner being a plus.
Just my 2 cents for tonight.
On PSU's side the HC is marginalized during gameday. It will be Moorhead and Pry who
During the game, Moorhead and Pry will have more to do with PSU's success or failure than Franklin. He is taking a more CEO-like role this year.
To be fair, Moorhead was the OC of the only UConn team to make a BCS game and was a HC at Fordham. As I said, I respect Canada as a playcaller, I just like Moorhead more. I like his offense more and I think it is better suited for the college game. Although, Canada's offense is a good match for what PN wants.
The new offense should help keep teams honest against PSU's running game. We are using wider splits and will spread the field on each down. Add in a hurry-up tempo and it would be hard for teams to stack 8 men in the box against Barkley, especially with the threats at WR. I think teams will have to play a lot of nickel against PSU and hope that their DL can cause enough disruption up front instead of relying on blitzes.
Good points but can Franklin give up the Sidelines Coaching, he often looked like a Deer in Highlights last season and growling at his Assistants and why some left him. I don't think Franklin can make that CEO Transition as easy as it appears.
I used to study Joe Paterno on Sidelines and would just follow him with Binoculars from the stands. I ignore the game completely. He was a CEO Coach on Game Day but a Sideline Coach talking and motioning how to lift one's hands when blocking, or showing stances as Players came off the field too.
When I once got on the Field far behind the bench as an Invite i watched him closer. He would go up and down the line and then say and turn to his OC, Time For A Long Pass. Joe wouldn't call the Play but the Assistant did and it was the plays they worked on all week I was told later by a PSU Player.
I don't see that in Franklin's Character or Coaching he is just a Cheerleader and when he does interfere he gets into spouts and shouts with his Staffers. I also compared his Coaching Resume. Franklin was a Resume Builder on coaching going to 9 Places often staying only 1 to 2 Years.
Franklin is more a Rebuilding Program Recruiting Coach and can recruit with anyone. But Franklin like Foge Fazio may not be able to be a complete coach against FBS Top Program like Meyer's, Harbaugh, Dantonio, and Ferentz.
Franklin this year is actually dependent on Moorhead, Pry, and Limegrover success more than his own coaching. Unlike Paterno that knew every aspect of each Assistant Coach as a CEO Coach but still coaching the little things and tweaking all game long? Franklin can't give up that Head Coaching mantle and is confused during games in my opinion.
This game is big one for Franklin more than Narduzzi too.
It can define the confidence in Players needed for Pitt to beat Penn State and move on and beat OKSU, UNC, and going 4-0 into the rest of season? Narduzzi has an Extension and is just getting warmed up in second year as a Head Coach and just exudes Confidence without having to say it.
The same for Penn State to beat Pitt and provide Confidence and Comfortably have Players in their system going on to beat Temple and going into Michigan at 3-0? Franklin has been making excuses on not winning as promised, and his staff changes shows his Coaching is in disarray and we shall see if he can fix it? Jackie Sherrill went through some growing pains too when he took over Pitt and had to dump some great Assistants.
If Pitt or Penn State lose this game I can see confusion, struggling, and finger pointing that can start a downward spiral hard to recover later if they either are 1-3 after the 4th Game.
Pitt's Narduzzi can go 6-6 or 7-5 and still be rebuilding, but if Franklin goes 6-6 he might not get that Extension?
We shall see?
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From reading Moorhead's Book, his system is based upon the QB making the right call instantly as the play begins, his players adjusting to that call, and the OL holding those blocks on that call for at least 1.8 seconds? This is going to take time to getting use to even if the OL can hold their blocks?
The problem for PSU the last two years was the OL was unable to handle the DL's and passes were rushed, overthrown, and dropped. Defense just wore down with many 3 and outs and games over just before and right after Half-Times?
The Pitt DL is ready for a Big Year, so Temple and and especially Michigan, and hard to see PSU OL even if better having to adjust DL's, if the PSU QB gets confused on the making the wrong call or RBs, WRs or TE also missed an assignment it will be harder and harder to come back if mistakes keep happening.
Also, this year the PSU DL is pretty new and that means LBs & DBs even though great and experience with talent, is making down field tackles, or playing up, and then hurt with a High Percentage or Deep Pass? If the OC Offense is still working on perfection of Moorhead's System, that Defense is gasping by Half Time/
Even at UConn and Forhamd Moorhead needed 6 to 8 Games to get that system under the belts, brains, and hearts of execution and it did take off once he found or developed the right QB in that system.
Right now i read both QBs are working on it, but that just means less snaps for both of them to make it work faster. Even Franklin is causing his own QB Controversy as we posts?
I will wait for Kent State Game to see how it works as well as Pitt game with Villanova to see if Pitt has some Wideouts capable all year long?
Honestly, I am not the least bit concerned about Sanders. He is a true freshman back. Barkley, is one of the top RB in the country, so of course there is reason to be worried.
People seem to be predicting a shoot out, but I think we will be pounding the ball hard and taking air out of the ball. This scares me a bit, cause it may cause us to get behind early. I think you can be sure there will be a few wrinkles on both sides, trickeration, penalties, hard-hitting... it will come down to turnovers, and I like Peterman not turning the ball over more than their rookie doing the same. Whitehead pick 6 ala Billy Owens to win it
I think Sanders absolutely could be a factor, perhaps on special teams. Remember that Barclay was a true freshman last year and is regarded as one of the best. Sanders could have the same impact if they figure out how to get them both on the field at the same time or at least special teams. I absolutely agree with most on this board that the biggest mismatch in the game is the Pitt offensive line against a young PSU defensive line with lack of experience and unproven talent. Penn St. lived off tremendous DL's the last couple of years, but not this year. I think Pitt has a big advantage at QB due to experience. I think McSorley is talented enough, but it will take awhile for him to really drive their new offense. Pitt linebackers will have to play well in this game for sure. Both secondaries look to be very good. If Pitt can pound the rock, it may force PSU's rookie QB into mistakes but the kid is really a gamer as witnessed by his four state championships in HS. I also think Franklin will prove to be a heck of coach. He actually made some great halftime and in game adjustments last year despite what people say. The big issues of lack of talent, youth, and depth trumps coaching everytime. I guess he'll get to prove it this year. Shoop was a great defensive mind, so it will be interesting to see if Pryor can fill those shoes. I also think Narduzzi will get the most out this defense despite some depth issues at LB and inexperience in a couple of areas - this could end up being a much better defense than last year. This game is really shaping up to be an interesting matchup.
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Make no mistake: Ped St wants not part of PITT! They spend crazy amounts of money on their FB program with very average results and losing to PITT would hurt their recruiting dramatically.
I think the 6.5 victory total for PSU this year is accurate. It could be 6 or 7 victories in a good year, if a lot of things break their way. I don't see one of those victories being against Pitt. They aren't good enough to beat a Pitt team that will contend for the ACC Coastal title. And PSU is probably the 5th most difficult opponent that Pitt will face this year, maybe lower. If we can't beat them handily, Narduzzi will need to reevaluate his gameplan. We should be able to handle them by at least the 9 point spread. But it's a "rivalry" game, so who knows what they'll pull to get a win. We all know what lowlifes PSU coaches are.
Certainly agree with some of this, however Pitt is currently only a 5.5 point favorite over PSU.
I can't believe the whole country wasn't after Moorehead. He's like Chip Kelly 2.0 according to Nitters
I'm surprised Oregon didn't just bring him in to take over when Kelly left
Sorry, I haven't been following it that closely lately. Either way, a 5 point spread is wayyyyyyy to low and we should beat them better than that. But anything can happen in a rivalry game.
yeah I don't get the unquestioned Moorehead love, even from Pitt fans. Guy didn't have much success at Uconn. He may end up being great but there are still question marks. Everyone is acting like the guy is a proven commodity and he isn't
I think psu fans think his zone blocking scheme and up tempo is going to negate their biggest weakness.
In theory it very well might. Also just as probable that his offense creates a ton of 3 and outs leaving his defense on the field for far too much time
In theory it very well might. Also just as probable that his offense creates a ton of 3 and outs leaving his defense on the field for far too much time
I checked out some stats from UConn's offense that year: 96th in Total Offense with 325yds per game, 63rd in Scoring Offense @ 26.4 pts per game and 110th in Passing Offense. Their best ranking was Rushing Offense which was #35.
With you guys playing them in the 2nd game, if they are learning a new blocking style this yr, I suspect Nard will let the D line pin their ears back, and bull rush most plays. The PSU offensive line play should be entertaining for the first half of the year, minimum.
Agree. It will put pressure on our secondary but with whitehead roaming out there, I see him being the key.
Lol, you realize Barkley ran for over 1000 yards in 6 1/2 games with one of the most abysmal O lines in the country, right?
Conner is great but you guys are clueless when it comes to Barkley.
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You realize James Conner was a first team All-American who had 26 TD's his Sophomore year? Barkley is good. Conner is just as good...or better. They have different styles.
LOL Pitt's Ollison had more yards as a Freshman than Barkley did....and 6 1/2 games my a$$. BTW I would assume the OL is still tragic.
http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/saquon-barkley-1/gamelog/2015/
Quick fact check shows Barkley played in 11 games. To the nitter boys point he did only get 1 carry against temple but that was probably due to temple owning them all day
Quick fact check shows Barkley played in 11 games. To the nitter boys point he did only get 1 carry against temple but that was probably due to temple owning them all day
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