Yea, Blair was a generational player though as undersized big and I'm not sure he would make the NBA now. I wont say Hugley will never make the NBA but he doesn't have the size or athleticism which makes him a great candidate to make 6 figures in the SEC while getting a degree.
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Yea, Blair was a generational player though as undersized big and I'm not sure he would make the NBA now. I wont say Hugley will never make the NBA but he doesn't have the size or athleticism which makes him a great candidate to make 6 figures in the SEC while getting a degree.
He still has a long way to go, but he has a nice base of skill talent.
With John, it is all going to come down to his discipline and how much athleticism his body unlocks if he gets into better shape. He has the base skill set to be an NBA guy; not sure yet if he has the desire or if his body will allow him the proper mix to hang.
FWIW, I think he probably does have enough natural athleticism to make it; I am still very not sure if he will put the work needed with the proper discipline.
A good sign for him is that he will play hard an entire game on both ends if he is hitting buckets. Momentum like that can carry. A bad sign is that he shows laziness when things are not going his way; stuff like that carries too, both in games and also in practices, meals, trainings, etc. It is a two way street.
With John, it is all going to come down to his discipline and how much athleticism his body unlocks if he gets into better shape. He has the base skill set to be an NBA guy; not sure yet if he has the desire or if his body will allow him the proper mix to hang.
FWIW, I think he probably does have enough natural athleticism to make it; I am still very not sure if he will put the work needed with the proper discipline.
A good sign for him is that he will play hard an entire game on both ends if he is hitting buckets. Momentum like that can carry. A bad sign is that he shows laziness when things are not going his way; stuff like that carries too, both in games and also in practices, meals, trainings, etc. It is a two way street.
If this were 2 years ago, I'd say Hugley is gone to the draft. Try the NBA, maybe hope to get a 2 way and if the NBA doesn't work out, try to land in a top European league. With NIL, its all changed. He can go make 6 figures at Auburn while getting a degree and honing his skills for the NBA Draft one day. Capel better figure out a way to get that kid some money.
What you believe and what’s real are very different .
Give me a list of current college players on 6 figure nil deals
Hell, let’s go 5 figures to make it interesting
Why do you have to be so difficult. You know there is no list because NIL literally started July 1 after rosters for 21-22 were set. This off-season will be Year 1 for transfers trying to cash in on NIL.
Lets do this. If we put rising Senior Chevy Troutman into the 2022 Transfer market, how much do you think some SEC team or NC State or whoever offers him? $10,000? $20,000? Its more than that and Hugley is worth a lot more because he has All-America potential.
You made a claim , without being able to back it up .
Instead of admitting it was nonsense (a very good college player getting paid more in college than in Europe)
You evade .
NIL is new so there is no way to "back it up." I am using common sense in that the NCAA is the 2nd richest basketball league in the world behind the NBA and that an elite player not good enough for the NBA would make more in the NCAA than in most European leagues.
Where or if is Kerry Blackshear playing professionally?? Because that is who's game Hugley translates most too.
Kofi Cockburn is a real bonafide old school 5 and probably the best Center in the country but he had to come back to school cause the pro game has changed and the NBA wasn't interested. John needs to continue developing his shooting and passing skills and maybe can become a Paul Milsap type in the league. That's a big "If" however.
Blackshear is a pretty good comp. He played in Israel his first year and is now in Turkey. Those are both mid-level leagues. Its hard to get salary info for foreign leagues but my guess is he's somewhere between 100K-250K. Cant see much more than that in those leagues.
I originally thought blackshear was a good comp. But i think big John moves much better than him.
I think he'll get some time in the league.
I won't say he'll get drafted but i think with work on his body and an improved 3 he'll make his way on to a team. When and for how long? I have no idea
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It’s new for football players and hs kids too in football - yet we see 6 figure deals all over .
Not so for hoops , and especially not for non-1- and done types -
There are plenty of nil deals in hoops and including transfers .
Most are more like the pitt ol type deals deom
Restaurants .
You’re hypothetical that Hugley would make more in college rather than professionally in Europe is inane .
There are just about 0 NIL deals in college basketball that were paid to get a kid to go to a certain school because it just started in July. That's what I'm saying.
Hugley's good. But there is a reason why he is at Pitt and not say Kentucky. And why he is not an NBA prospect.
There was one sequence in the BC game where Big John got the offensive rebound, and went up and tried to lay it up and got blocked. An NBA quality big, at 6'9" finishes that with a dunk. Even 6'6" Dejuan Blair finished those with dunks.
Hugley is a really good college player. Happy to have him. But I don't think his game translates to the next level.
There was one sequence in the BC game where Big John got the offensive rebound, and went up and tried to lay it up and got blocked. An NBA quality big, at 6'9" finishes that with a dunk. Even 6'6" Dejuan Blair finished those with dunks.
Hugley is a really good college player. Happy to have him. But I don't think his game translates to the next level.
I appreciate @Sean Miller Fan and his ability to make claims that he’ll never be able to back up but will still allow him to claim he was right.
If I remember correctly, Blair's biggest issue was his knees. His time in the NBA was limited from the start.
Why was Justin not at Kentucky ?
The kids a baller whose getting better and dominating inside , he has a professional career ahead of him .
He was valuable offensively but a huge defensive liability because his lateral movement (IDK how much knees vs. natural speed) was too slow to switch on pick and rolls. Ultimately he got picked on enough that he was done.
He has a Pro career, but not an NBA career. And Justin was different, basically a kid playing a "5" in HS who was a wing.
No one thought he was a future NBA player , talent like that isn’t typically rated in the 240’s coming out of HS . 6’5” guys normally need superior offensIve skills .
Congrats!!!!!!
you have made consecutive replies without using these examples to back up your IDIOTIC statements..
* Troy Palamolu
* Bill Belicheck
* 17 yo Michael Jordan
* Chuck Noll
* Labron Jones
Do you even know who any of these guys are ….you ass !
Please stop it. Some guy getting $1,000 and free sandwiches from the local sandwich place doesn't count.
I don't know why you have to be so slow. I have been pretty clear that there is not 1 college basketball player who was recruited to a school by an NIL deal....since the law didn't begin until July 1. College football is just going through this now with the 2022 class.
I appreciate that from BballinsiderfromPitt. Someone told him the Memphis kid got $1 million from FedEx so he assumes its true without any proof of it or the common sense that a real business cannot pay above market deals because they are accountable to shareholders.
What loss? Your counting Player X having an NIL deal with Main Street Sandwich Shop as win? Of course I know players have NIL deals? Just no one was recruited to their current school by one because it didn't exist. Things will get hot and heavy this Spring when free agency starts.
Yes
The big money will be for one and done nba prospects , as I said
I’ll wager whatever money you are willing to lose hugely won’t get 6 figures to transfer .
One and Done NBA guys will get big money, yes. However, you dont understand that in college basketball, John Hugley is just as valuable, perhaps more valuable than those guys because he is a pretty complete, dominant college basketball player. The fact he may not have much of an NBA future is pretty meaningless to a fanboy who just wants to see his team win.
And there's no point of a bet because we'll never know what he is offered to transfer.
Don’t slink away .
You made a bold claim based on nothing.
Let’s see how much you actually believe it
Blackshear is a better athlete and defender than Big John but Hugs is a better offensive player and passer. Don’t really see the comparison here. Hugely reminds me more of the late Robert “Tractor” Traylor for all you old heads in here.
Its a ridiculous bet because there's no way to prove offers and you know that. Auburn could offer $100K and he could stay at Pitt because Capel arranged some NIL with a booster or someone. We will never know.
He would not have because he was not a good shooter and even worse from the free throw line.
Steven Adams is one of the only players who can get away with not being able to shoot a lick and still have a long productive career in the NBA cause he can run and jump like a deer and is 7' tall.
