James Conner

[Pitt79]

no kidding?..You walk around on days of games with player jerseys? never would have guessed. You? Got put the face paint on ala Puddy also eh,? Support the team!

No, I don't do face paint, ever-that's stupid. But I just don't get what the hell is wrong with wearing a football jersey, especially on game day? Or when you are going to the game? What's strange about it?

I live in the Baltimore area, work in a huge complex, on Friday's they have "Purple Fridays", literally HUNDREDS of employees wear Ravens gear, especially jerseys, I among others wear Steelers jerseys, it's all in fun. Others wear jerseys of other favorite teams.

Some of you, to me anyways, are really strange about the issue of wearing sports jerseys? I don't wear them to church, or a job interview, or regularly to work, but on a game day, at a game, at a tailgate party, at a sports bar, WTF is wrong with it? Don't wear them if you don't want to, but there's nothing weird about it or wrong with it.

 

[Revenge Of The Noise]

It will bee interesting when the Pitt season starts. We tend to see at least a few fans at our games wearing Steelers gear rather than Pitt gear. But not tons of it. Still, the black shirts stand out rather jarringly.

It was always interesting to see glimpses of Fitzgerald Cardinal red shirts or Revis Jet green shirts among our crowds too.

But all these were fairly rare. Given the Conner shirt phenomenon I'd expect we're going to see a lot more of black "30" shirts. Maybe hundreds or even thousands! Good or bad.

 

[Pitt79]

Get them autographed and hang them on your wall.

Autographed jerseys to me are stupid, I don't want to hang them on the wall, I WANT TO WEAR THEM.

I have one autographed item, an autographed picture of Ernie Stautner of the Steelers, found it at a yard sale for $5.

 

[Pitt79]

If more Pitt fans bought and wore Pitt uniform shirts, yes perhaps we'd look like comical tools...

Why? It's pretty NORMAL to see anyone wearing a football jersey at a football game. What's comical is seeing a dude in a dress shirt and "slacks", that's comical unless the person is over 80 years old.

 

[Pitt79]

It will bee interesting when the Pitt season starts. We tend to see at least a few fans at our games wearing Steelers gear rather than Pitt gear. But not tons of it. Still, the black shirts stand out rather jarringly.

It was always interesting to see glimpses of Fitzgerald Cardinal red shirts or Revis Jet green shirts among our crowds too.

But all these were fairly rare. Given the Conner shirt phenomenon I'd expect we're going to see a lot more of black "30" shirts. Maybe hundreds or even thousands! Good or bad.

And I suppose we'll also see a lot of Pitt #24 jerseys at the Steelers games. It's GOOD both ways. I only hope Conner succeeds and gets playing time.

 

[Swervin27]

Why? It's pretty NORMAL to see anyone wearing a football jersey at a football game. What's comical is seeing a dude in a dress shirt and "slacks", that's comical unless the person is over 80 years old.

Define slacks? Anyone under 80 looks comical wearing a dress shirt and slacks? What do you wear to work?

 

[Pitt79]

Define slacks? Anyone under 80 looks comical wearing a dress shirt and slacks? What do you wear to work?

We've had this conversation before, to work, I wear khakis, cargo pants or jeans, usually a polo or dress shirt with that. Am an IT guy, it's not a formal environment, so I never wear a jacket or tie unless there's some sort of interview or presentation to do. And I didn't mean that people look comical in a "dress shirt and slacks" everywhere, but AT A FOOTBALL GAME, in 2017, yes, that looks odd to me, it's reminiscent of looking at a photo of the fans at Super Bowl I or something, in 2017, "normal" football game attire is some sort of team gear, whether a jersey or t shirt, hoodie, sweatshirt etc.

 

[Revenge Of The Noise]

And I suppose we'll also see a lot of Pitt #24 jerseys at the Steelers games. It's GOOD both ways. I only hope Conner succeeds and gets playing time.

Guessing that would be a bit more rare

 

[Pitt79]

Guessing that would be a bit more rare

True, but more than usual.

 

[Revenge Of The Noise]

Why? It's pretty NORMAL to see anyone wearing a football jersey at a football game. What's comical is seeing a dude in a dress shirt and "slacks", that's comical unless the person is over 80 years old.

I think the denigration some express might be more when people, particularly older folks are wearing Steeler uniform jerseys to places like church and work. Which is kind of common in Pittsburgh! Seeing them at actual games is not an issue (at least in my view)... it's actually great imo

 

[upj87]

A fellow UPJ'er dishing my swag!!! I'm betting you are a plaid flannel gentleman. Camo jacket. Blaze orange lid.

dey took r jobs!!!!!!!!

Nah, simple Steeler shirt. Maybe a hat from the clearance link. Don't feel the need to drop 80 bucks on a shirt to fill the coffers of millionaire mercenaries....

I don't know, it might have something to do with the amount of fat drunken idiots in game jerseys in the NFL parking lots and fantasy baseball drafts I have been to through the years. I could be wrong but it seems the average NFL only fan is a much bigger douche than the College only or College/NFL fan.

 

[Revenge Of The Noise]

True, but more than usual.

It's actually a real surprise to see someone in Pitt gear at a Pittsburgh pro sports event. There was a guy wearing a royal blue Pitt t shirt at a Pens playoff game and he was behind the bench, so he got lots of tv time. That color pops anyway, but this so rarely happens that it really stood out.

 

[PITTLAW]

Because the nitter/Steeler fans mentioned they will struggle to root for James because he was a PANTHER..

There may be a few...but likely in the vast minority that would feel that way. Pitt fans that love the Steelers had no issues supporting and cheering for Franco when he was carrying the ball for the home team. College affiliation quickly fades once you have a real job. Hail to Pitt!

 

[Pitt79]

... wearing Steeler uniform jerseys to places like church and work.

What about work places where it's part of the culture?

 

[Pitt79]

It's actually a real surprise to see someone in Pitt gear at a Pittsburgh pro sports event. There was a guy wearing a royal blue Pitt t shirt at a Pens playoff game and he was behind the bench, so he got lots of tv time. That color pops anyway, but this so rarely happens that it really stood out.

I won't be surprised at Conner's Pitt jersey popping up at Steelers games, I've seen Big Ben Miami of Ohio jerseys there.

 

[Jpripper88]

We've had this conversation before, to work, I wear khakis, cargo pants or jeans, usually a polo or dress shirt with that. Am an IT guy, it's not a formal environment, so I never wear a jacket or tie unless there's some sort of interview or presentation to do. And I didn't mean that people look comical in a "dress shirt and slacks" everywhere, but AT A FOOTBALL GAME, in 2017, yes, that looks odd to me, it's reminiscent of looking at a photo of the fans at Super Bowl I or something, in 2017, "normal" football game attire is some sort of team gear, whether a jersey or t shirt, hoodie, sweatshirt etc.

If you are on the team? Definitely.

The funniest thing about this discussion is the people who (in my opinion) dress like slobs say "I don't care what another guy wears, BUT..." and the people who the sloppy folks think dress "preppy or stuffy" have no problem saying they think those people look like oversized children. Then the "sloppy" group insinuates the "preppy" group is a bunch of fairies because "they care about what other guys are wearing" and are completely blind to the fact they just expressed their opinion the exact same way. Round and round we go.

Really it is a culture, class, and climate issue IMO. In poorer areas, with poorer folks, and colder climates people tend to wear cheap, layered, ugly clothing, especially if they are over weight. This cross sections perfectly with many football fans, especially NFL and B1G college fans in/from the Midwest. The sad part is the women do it, too, and look (and act) even worse. If the men don't try to look decent, the women aren't going to either.

 

[Swervin27]

We've had this conversation before, to work, I wear khakis, cargo pants or jeans, usually a polo or dress shirt with that. Am an IT guy, it's not a formal environment, so I never wear a jacket or tie unless there's some sort of interview or presentation to do. And I didn't mean that people look comical in a "dress shirt and slacks" everywhere, but AT A FOOTBALL GAME, in 2017, yes, that looks odd to me, it's reminiscent of looking at a photo of the fans at Super Bowl I or something, in 2017, "normal" football game attire is some sort of team gear, whether a jersey or t shirt, hoodie, sweatshirt etc.

oh, sorry Pitt79. I thought you meant anywhere, I was confused..

Dress shirts and khakis at a sporting event nowadays would stick out like a sore thumb. the more I think about this, wearing a jersey to a football game, no matter what age, is fine, almost expected nowadays.. The NFL did a good job in the last 30 years pushing their brand, their merchandise on us and we bought in, literally..

Only reason, well main reason anyways, I don't wear a pitt jersey to pitt games is there aren't any..

 

[Pitt79]

If you are on the team? Definitely.

The funniest thing about this discussion is the people who (in my opinion) dress like slobs say "I don't care what another guy wears, BUT..." and the people who the sloppy folks think dress "preppy or stuffy" have no problem saying they think those people look like oversized children. Then the "sloppy" group insinuates the "preppy" group is a bunch of fairies because "they care about what other guys are wearing" and are completely blind to the fact they just expressed their opinion the exact same way. Round and round we go.

Really it is a culture, class, and climate issue IMO. In poorer areas, with poorer folks, and colder climates people tend to wear cheap, layered, ugly clothing, especially if they are over weight. This cross sections perfectly with many football fans, especially NFL and B1G college fans in/from the Midwest. The sad part is the women do it, too, and look (and act) even worse. If the men don't try to look decent, the women aren't going to either.

A class issue? "Poorer" areas and folks? I'm solidly middle class, bordering on upper, a six figure plus salary for at least 20 years now, my home is worth $500K at least, I've testified before Congress via video as a subject matter expert, I wear football jerseys regularly during football season, hoodies and sweatpants all the time. Yes, we've had this conversation before I know. But really, you can't judge class or income from how people dress. As far as I'm concerned I'm dressed appropriately 100% of the time based on where I am or the occasion.

 

[HailToPitt725]

oh, sorry Pitt79. I thought you meant anywhere, I was confused..

Dress shirts and khakis at a sporting event nowadays would stick out like a sore thumb. the more I think about this, wearing a jersey to a football game, no matter what age, is fine, almost expected nowadays.. The NFL did a good job in the last 30 years pushing their brand, their merchandise on us and we bought in, literally..

Only reason, well main reason anyways, I don't wear a pitt jersey to pitt games is there aren't any..

A lot of OK State fans actually dressed up a bit and it caught me off guard. Jeans, dress shirts, gigantic belt buckles, and cowboy boots and hat. And then of course all the SEC schools who dress up as if they're going to church. Nothing wrong with that, its just not what I'm used to.

I really don't see the problem with wearing team apparel and jerseys to the game. You see it everywhere from high school to the pros. Shows school pride and gets you pumped up for the game.

 

[Jpripper88]

A class issue? "Poorer" areas and folks? I'm solidly middle class, bordering on upper, a six figure plus salary for at least 20 years now, my home is worth $500K at least, I've testified before Congress via video as a subject matter expert, I wear football jerseys regularly during football season, hoodies and sweatpants all the time. Yes, we've had this conversation before I know. But really, you can't judge class or income from how people dress. As far as I'm concerned I'm dressed appropriately 100% of the time based on where I am or the occasion.

100% of the time? No chance. However, we live in a world where there are going to be snap judgements. What you look like says a lot about who you are.

 

[Pitt79]

100% of the time? No chance. However, we live in a world where there are going to be snap judgements. What you look like says a lot about who you are.

Good then, I like dressing like a slob (in your opinion) I like flying under the radar. And besides, I think a guy in his 50s wearing a football jersey to a football game or even just to watch on TV is totally normal looking, not strange at all.

 

[Jpripper88]

Good then, I like dressing like a slob (in your opinion) I like flying under the radar. And besides, I think a guy in his 50s wearing a football jersey to a football game or even just to watch on TV is totally normal looking, not strange at all.

And to each their own.

 

[Pitt79]

I just find it insulting, that anyone would see a guy out at the super market on a Sunday morning in October, in an NFL jersey and sweatpants stocking up on snacks for that afternoons game and think, "here's a lowlife slob, uneducated and poor"... It's strange to me, I've been wearing team gear on game days for at least 25-30 years, since the gear became readily available. I remember that I never owned a Steelers t shirt until I was out of college I think, early '80s, thinking it was cool actually finding something like that in a store. It wasn't readily available when I was growing up.

 

[upj87]

A class issue? "Poorer" areas and folks? I'm solidly middle class, bordering on upper, a six figure plus salary for at least 20 years now, my home is worth $500K at least, I've testified before Congress via video as a subject matter expert, I wear football jerseys regularly during football season, hoodies and sweatpants all the time. Yes, we've had this conversation before I know. But really, you can't judge class or income from how people dress. As far as I'm concerned I'm dressed appropriately 100% of the time based on where I am or the occasion.

hahaha! sure. thanks for offering that up as testimony to class having very little to do with income level. Now hows about you give us your inflated johnson length total and ssn number...

Puddy had cash and class also..

 

[Jpripper88]

I just find it insulting, that anyone would see a guy out at the super market on a Sunday morning in October, in an NFL jersey and sweatpants stocking up on snacks for that afternoons game and think, "here's a lowlife slob, uneducated and poor"... It's strange to me, I've been wearing team gear on game days for at least 25-30 years, since the gear became readily available. I remember that I never owned a Steelers t shirt until I was out of college I think, early '80s, thinking it was cool actually finding something like that in a store. It wasn't readily available when I was growing up.

I just find it funny you (and others in that category) are insulted by that, but then have the opposite opinions about someone else's choices in the opposite direction. I have no problems being honest about it and am not insulted by it. I wish our society wasn't as lazy and sloppy as they are. Dress is just one piece of that.

BTW, I never said ""here's a lowlife slob, uneducated and poor". However, I would bet the data would show socioeconomic trends, even regardless of location.

It is typical nowadays, though. People can't see the fallacy of being insulted about something, when they are presenting the same behavior with an opposite opinion.

 

[PITTLAW]

I just find it funny you (and others in that category) are insulted by that, but then have the opposite opinions about someone else's choices in the opposite direction. I have no problems being honest about it and am not insulted by it. I wish our society wasn't as lazy and sloppy as they are. Dress is just one piece of that.

BTW, I never said ""here's a lowlife slob, uneducated and poor". However, I would bet the data would show socioeconomic trends, even regardless of location.

It is typical nowadays, though. People can't see the fallacy of being insulted about something, when they are presenting the same behavior with an opposite opinion.

Dress codes have changed in a big way. Say what you want about it, but it probably only demonstrates that you likely fit in the category of "angry old white guy." I routinely interact with guys that have created companies in the tech sector who don't own a sport coat, let alone a suit. And most of these people dress incredibly informal and are often worth tens of millions of dollars...flip flops, shorts and a t-shirt in many cases in Silicon Valley. Whether it was Steve Jobs in jeans and a mock black turtle neck sweater or Mark Zuckerberg in a grey t-shirt, hoodie and jeans...what people wear has changed. As a lawyer, I only wear a suit when in court or if my clients have an expectation of their lawyer wearing a suit. Most clients specifically ask that we not wear suits so we blend in with the way people dress at the company. To each his own. Hail to Pitt!

 

[Cathedral Lawn Frisbee]

Coach Duzz picks up a JC jersey for his son

https://t.co/utqTNqNaXx

 

[Jpripper88]

Dress codes have changed in a big way. Say what you want about it, but it probably only demonstrates that you likely fit in the category of "angry old white guy." I routinely interact with guys that have created companies in the tech sector who don't own a sport coat, let alone a suit. And most of these people dress incredibly informal and are often worth tens of millions of dollars...flip flops, shorts and a t-shirt in many cases in Silicon Valley. Whether it was Steve Jobs in jeans and a mock black turtle neck sweater or Mark Zuckerberg in a grey t-shirt, hoodie and jeans...what people wear has changed. As a lawyer, I only wear a suit when in court or if my clients have an expectation of their lawyer wearing a suit. Most clients specifically ask that we not wear suits so we blend in with the way people dress at the company. To each his own. Hail to Pitt!

I definitely do not fit that category. I am younger than you are. It also has absolutely nothing to do with race.

I didn't say anything against specific individuals and acknowledge there are exceptions to every rule. I know several exceptions, as well. Of course we aren't talking about exceptions here. However, I will always contend a person in sweatpants, a hoodie, and/or cargo shorts does not care about their appearance and that is telling about them. You can take that anyway you want it, whether good, bad, or some combination of both.

 

[Pitt79]

...I will always contend a person in sweatpants, a hoodie, and/or cargo shorts does not care about their appearance and that is telling about them. You can take that anyway you want it, whether good, bad, or some combination of both.

To me dressing like that can LOOK GOOD depending on the situation, like when I go to the Pitt games, if it's cool, I'll wear my cargo sweatpants and Pitt hoodie, I think for a Pitt football game that's fantastic ensemble.

 

[Jpripper88]

To me dressing like that can LOOK GOOD depending on the situation, like when I go to the Pitt games, if it's cool, I'll wear my cargo sweatpants and Pitt hoodie, I think for a Pitt football game that's fantastic ensemble.

And, again, to each their own.

 

[Gunga_Galunga]

However, I will always contend a person in sweatpants, a hoodie, and/or cargo shorts does not care about their appearance and that is telling about them.

It tells you that they don't care about their appearance at that particular time. It doesn't tell you anything about the person.

 

[Jpripper88]

It tells you that they don't care about their appearance at that particular time. It doesn't tell you anything about the person.

Yeah, it tells you exactly what your first sentence said. The same is true in the opposite way. Then, almost all the time, you make judgements and inferences based on what that means to you, in that situation, and what the relationship is moving forward.

 

[PITTLAW]

I definitely do not fit that category. I am younger than you are. It also has absolutely nothing to do with race.

I didn't say anything against specific individuals and acknowledge there are exceptions to every rule. I know several exceptions, as well. Of course we aren't talking about exceptions here. However, I will always contend a person in sweatpants, a hoodie, and/or cargo shorts does not care about their appearance and that is telling about them. You can take that anyway you want it, whether good, bad, or some combination of both.

Perhaps, but you certainly appear to be very judgmental, regardless of your race or age. You could certainly be well-groomed, take terrific care of your body and wear clean sweatpants and a hoodie and look terrific and care very much about your appearance. I suspect plenty of professional athletes fit that bill. Appropriate dress is contextual, in addition to being generational, societal, ethnic and socio-economic. I honestly could careless what anyone wears to a Pitt athletic event....even if privately or among friends laugh and make a comment at someone's dress. The bigger concern is getting people to the stadium...not what they are wearing. Hail to Pitt!

 

[Jpripper88]

Perhaps, but you certainly appear to be very judgmental, regardless of your race or age. You could certainly be well-groomed, take terrific care of your body and wear clean sweatpants and a hoodie and look terrific and care very much about your appearance. I suspect plenty of professional athletes fit that bill. Appropriate dress is contextual, in addition to being generational, societal, ethnic and socio-economic. I honestly could careless what anyone wears to a Pitt athletic event....even if privately or among friends laugh and make a comment at someone's dress. The bigger concern is getting people to the stadium...not what they are wearing. Hail to Pitt!

I'm honest.

I agree it doesn't matter. I just laugh at the one way attitude about it and some's perception that one criticism/opinion is more valid than the other or that they don't have one, even as they proceed to express it.

 

[BuffetParrothead]

100% of the time? No chance. However, we live in a world where there are going to be snap judgements. What you look like says a lot about who you are.

We live in a world if instant impressions and how you dress is a first impression which can open or close a door!

The general population gets misled when they see some CEO's or billionaires dressing like slobs. Guess what they can do what they want at that point in their life but the general population cant unless they work in an business sector that tolerates slobs.

I'd love to see a pro golfer looking like a bum on the PGA tour and I'd bet his sponsors would be running for the hills. Actually the PGA wont let a golfer wear a collarless shirt.

Try to go to a job interview for a staff / professional/management job in a t- shirt and jeans?

Where we which is rural Eastern PA banks have a sign posted on the door: No Hoodies Allowed Inside the Bank
In addition local golf courses have dress codes: No cargo shorts or tee shirts allowed on the golf course.

Oh by the way I travel all over the globe and when you go to India, China, Maylasia, Thailand, Japan, Brazil, Europe, they dont wear jeans and a t shirt they actually dress very nice.
The US is leading the way to the bottom from Business Formal, to Business Casual, to Business Slob while the rest of the business world dresses up!

Steve Jobs of Apple started the CEO slob revolution.
I know a guy in the same business as I am Corp Security/Risk Mgmt..
He met with Apple years ago to pull them in as a client.
Since his company deals with things like kidnap and ransom, executive protection, etc he likes to meet with the entire management team including the busy CEO's.
When he met with Apple they located Jobs at the end of the table as far away from the visitoring co. personnel as possible.
He had on old dirty jeans and an old t shirt. Apparently he has personal hygiene issues which was also mentioned in his book.
So lets all use Jobs as our model for Corp dress codes???? Oh yes take a shower once in a while.

There's more!

 

[PITTLAW]

We live in a world if instant impressions and how you dress is a first impression which can open or close a door!

The general population gets misled when they see some CEO's or billionaires dressing like slobs. Guess what they can do what they want at that point in their life but the general population cant unless they work in an business sector that tolerates slobs.

I'd love to see a pro golfer looking like a bum on the PGA tour and I'd bet his sponsors would be running for the hills. Actually the PGA wont let a golfer wear a collarless shirt.

Try to go to a job interview for a staff / professional/management job in a t- shirt and jeans?

Where we which is rural Eastern PA banks have a sign posted on the door: No Hoodies Allowed Inside the Bank
In addition local golf courses have dress codes: No cargo shorts or tee shirts allowed on the golf course.

Oh by the way I travel all over the globe and when you go to India, China, Maylasia, Thailand, Japan, Brazil, Europe, they dont wear jeans and a t shirt they actually dress very nice.
The US is leading the way to the bottom from Business Formal, to Business Casual, to Business Slob while the rest of the business world dresses up!

Steve Jobs of Apple started the CEO slob revolution.
I know a guy in the same business as I am Corp Security/Risk Mgmt..
He met with Apple years ago to pull them in as a client.
Since his company deals with things like kidnap and ransom, executive protection, etc he likes to meet with the entire management team including the busy CEO's.
When he met with Apple they located Jobs at the end of the table as far away from the visitoring co. personnel as possible.
He had on old dirty jeans and an old t shirt. Apparently he has personal hygiene issues which was also mentioned in his book.
So lets all use Jobs as our model for Corp dress codes???? Oh yes take a shower once in a while.

There's more!

Perhaps I got lost, but wasn't the original debate about whether wearing a "player game jersey" to a college football game was appropriate or not? The answer is certainly yes, and it hardly makes the person who chooses that dress code a slob or lacking in any category. Personally, I leave that style to the kids [and also find those jerseys uncomfortable]. But to criticize people that wear Pitt gear to a Pitt football game is simply absurd. The point I attempted is that dress codes have changed. Whether you like the change or not, that is up to you. But change it has...which is purely an objective fact. Hail to Pitt!

 

[BuffetParrothead]

Perhaps I got lost, but wasn't the original debate about whether wearing a "player game jersey" to a college football game was appropriate or not? The answer is certainly yes, and it hardly makes the person who chooses that dress code a slob or lacking in any category. Personally, I leave that style to the kids [and also find those jerseys uncomfortable]. But to criticize people that wear Pitt gear to a Pitt football game is simply absurd. The point I attempted is that dress codes have changed. Whether you like the change or not, that is up to you. But change it has...which is purely an objective fact. Hail to Pitt!

Agreed I guess the thread swerved into other areas!
Mrs Buffet and I wear jeans and PITT gear or shorts and PITT gear to PITT games but I dont wear it to work C suite people would give me the "evil eye."

 

[Pitt79]

It tells you that they don't care about their appearance at that particular time. It doesn't tell you anything about the person.

That's true too, if I have to do a presentation for a high ranking executive or attend a wedding, I'll wear a suit and tie, because sweatpants and a hoodie aren't appropriate there, like they totally are at a football game.

 

[Pitt79]

Perhaps I got lost, but wasn't the original debate about whether wearing a "player game jersey" to a college football game was appropriate or not? The answer is certainly yes,

Yes, but "JERSEY" discussions always lead to some people complaining that it's "sloppy" or strange if grown men wear a football jersey.

 

[Jpripper88]

Perhaps I got lost, but wasn't the original debate about whether wearing a "player game jersey" to a college football game was appropriate or not? The answer is certainly yes, and it hardly makes the person who chooses that dress code a slob or lacking in any category. Personally, I leave that style to the kids [and also find those jerseys uncomfortable]. But to criticize people that wear Pitt gear to a Pitt football game is simply absurd. The point I attempted is that dress codes have changed. Whether you like the change or not, that is up to you. But change it has...which is purely an objective fact. Hail to Pitt!

I don't think anyone ever did that.