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Jaylen Warren - Yikes!

Thomas Tull has a business interest % in a joint business venture with Wilson and his wife. When Wilson got wavied by Denver he only had one initial option back up with the Giants that's when Tull stepped in for the Steelers to bring him and he started his dirty work to clear the way.

Is that what it was? I had heard the Lochness Monster and Bigfoot were arguing over whether we should go with Pickett or Rudolph and Tomlin just couldn't take it anymore so he asked God for a sign and then he saw Ciara descending from the sky (she had been abducted by aliens, but they decided to return her to Earth because their boss actually wanted them to take Shakira but there was a miscommunication).
 
So you mean to tell me that an almost 15 year pro that has won the Super Bowl, been a Pro Bowler like 10 times and has won a lot of games brings more leadership and credibility than a guy two years out of college that has not won anything and played in a trash offense? Stunning …
 
Context matters. Does anyone have video/audio of the full quote? Warren may have just been trying to hype up his new teammates rather than speaking poorly about Pickett or maybe not. Either way, I'd like to hear it in context.

Well of course. What else was he going to say about his new QBs?

Didn't stop the Pickett obsessed from taking it and turning it into what they wanted.

Really weird dynamic. KP was smart to request a trade.
 
Not that weird when you consider the OP is a huge troll, amongst the other trolls/dimwits that won't let it go.
I've posted on this site and the old scout one under the same handle since it's inception and this is the first time I've been called a troll. I've been called many things, but troll is a new one.
 
It started with Mr. Insider Dulac saying the Steelers shouldn't have drafted Pickett. Then saying Pickett looked bad in training camp and nowhere near ready to play (Picket proceeded to play great in the first pre-season game). And then there were the usual suspects that continued to pile on like Madden, Yohe, Benz, Adamski. Notice a common theme with this line-up? They are either nitters or notoriously vile towards Pitt. People complain about Pitt fans being petty, but I rarely hear any complaints on this board about the selection of Porter by the Steelers. Yet the supposedly professional media are the ones with the biggest vendetta.

I fully expect our resident know-it all from jtown to react with his famous laugh to this post
Dulac was after him from Day 1 and never acknowledged that the F’s he gave Canada and the WRs translated into F for the QB.
When Canada left Pickett was out and the offense improved. If you ride a nag you are doomed.
The Steelers changed everything around in the offseason. That is an admission on their part.
 
It's so weird that this keeps coming up. There was some blog yesterday titled, "What does Kenny Pickett think about the Steelers draft?"
Has nothing to do with the OP. You just had a draft. Team still needs a bunch of pieces. You're moving into rookie camp and OTA's. Season isn't that far off. I just don't understand why we keep seeing Steeler media coverage about a guy that is gone. It's like following the Facebook posts of a buddy's ex-wife that he threw out of the house for being a deadbeat.
 
Thomas Tull has a business interest % in a joint business venture with Wilson and his wife. When Wilson got wavied by Denver he only had one initial option back up with the Giants that's when Tull stepped in for the Steelers to bring him and he started his dirty work to clear the way.
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I don't think "leadership" is a good adjective for what Warren is describing. Having been in locker rooms for the past 40 years, it just seems the locker room didn't believe Kenny was the guy. And, now with Russ (who is established) and Fields (who is ultra-talented), they seem to just like these guys better.
 
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It started with Mr. Insider Dulac saying the Steelers shouldn't have drafted Pickett. Then saying Pickett looked bad in training camp and nowhere near ready to play (Picket proceeded to play great in the first pre-season game). And then there were the usual suspects that continued to pile on like Madden, Yohe, Benz, Adamski. Notice a common theme with this line-up? They are either nitters or notoriously vile towards Pitt. People complain about Pitt fans being petty, but I rarely hear any complaints on this board about the selection of Porter by the Steelers. Yet the supposedly professional media are the ones with the biggest vendetta.

I fully expect our resident know-it all from jtown to react with his famous laugh to this post
Kenny could have silenced all that by playing well enough to seem worthy of a 1st round pick, he rarely did, and it wasn't everyone else's fault.
 
I'm not a conspiracy theorist but it doesn't seem like a coincidence that a minority owner of the Steelers and the owner of the stadium naming rights also owns Russell Wilson's insurance company.

Wilson doesn't know squat about insurance. The entire company exists so it can market Wilson to minorities in order to sell insurance. That company gets significantly less valuable if Wilson isn't playing. It will cost a Steelers owner a ton of money if Wilson gets less famous because he isn't playing football. That's just true.

Wilson, Derek Watt, Connor Heyward, Matt Canada. How many teams have as many nepotism connections to the on-field product as the Steelers?
 
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I don't think "leadership" is a good adjective for what Warren is describing. Having been in locker rooms for the past 40 years, it just seems the locker room didn't believe Kenny was the guy. And, now with Russ (who is established) and Fields (who is ultra-talented), they seem to just like these guys better.
Based on that I’m guessing The qb rooms were pretty bad in Chicago and Denver

There’s a good chance the Qb room won’t be much better 8 games into the season
 
Based on that I’m guessing The qb rooms were pretty bad in Chicago and Denver

There’s a good chance the Qb room won’t be much better 8 games into the season
Most of the national experts think the QB doesn't have to be even "good" for the QB room to be much better in Pittsburgh. Kenny was historically bad as a starter.
 
Fact ! Nobody in the league wanted Wilson even at the super cheap price. I hope he rebounds and plays well enough for the Steelers to make the playoffs. But having said that I don’t think he finishes the year healthy or good enough to not lose his position to Fields.
 
Most of the national experts think the QB doesn't have to be even "good" for the QB room to be much better in Pittsburgh. Kenny was historically bad as a starter.
Come on man, Nate Peterman was historically bad as a starter. Pickett was a guy that played below average mostly because he did not throw many TDs.

The guy won games. And often they won at the end because of him. He was not Tim Tebow out there. He just did not throw TDs, which makes it look worse than it was.

I get that you want to push the point but just some of this stuff is way off. He was not much different than many first or second year starters and at least he stayed away from detrimental decisions. He also was in an offense that was rancid to the point where they hired a new OC, drafted two new OL starters and overturned the entire WR corps.

Saying Wilson is a big improvement as a leader is not exactly a diss. The guy has done it all.

It’s fine to say Pickett was not good overall but historically bad is hyperbole and not at all fair to the guy.
 
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Kenny could have silenced all that by playing well enough to seem worthy of a 1st round pick, he rarely did, and it wasn't everyone else's fault.
Here's where Kenny really fell down. When they asked him if sitting out if he is learning anything and he responded with a terse "no". Could you imagine Sidney Crosby responded like that?? Hell, Larry Fitzgerald? No.
 
I don't think "leadership" is a good adjective for what Warren is describing. Having been in locker rooms for the past 40 years, it just seems the locker room didn't believe Kenny was the guy. And, now with Russ (who is established) and Fields (who is ultra-talented), they seem to just like these guys better.
Well we will see what their record looks like with these 2 washed up qbs.
 
Most of the national experts think the QB doesn't have to be even "good" for the QB room to be much better in Pittsburgh. Kenny was historically bad as a starter.
lol. So was the Ol and OC. Like I said let’s see how good the qb room is with the prima Donna Russ.
 
Most of the national experts think the QB doesn't have to be even "good" for the QB room to be much better in Pittsburgh. Kenny was historically bad as a starter.

Steel, you seem like one of the few here who actually knows something about football. So I'm kind of disappointed by this post. Historically bad? I guess it is safe to assume you never saw Mark Malone, Kent Graham, Bubby Brister or Kordell Stewart play for the Steelers.
 
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Sorry if I missed this, but here's the video with Warren.

more confirmation of the nothing burger. Thanks!

How in the blue hell is Kenny going to help the backs and receivers with their route running? His nfl experience consisted of one training camp with starters reps and 18 games with Matt Canada or whatever it was.

Can’t wait to see where Canada lands with his next career stop. Should be a good one.
 
Come on man, Nate Peterman was historically bad as a starter. Pickett was a guy that played below average mostly because he did not throw many TDs.
https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/new...kenny-pickett-sets-alarming-record-touchdowns
The guy won games. And often they won at the end because of him. He was not Tim Tebow out there. He just did not throw TDs, which makes it look worse than it was.
Listen, I'm not a Tomlin fan but if they thought Kenny was the driving force behind their wins, they wouldn't have went shopping for QB's. Wins imo aren't really a good QB stat.
I get that you want to push the point but just some of this stuff is way off.
We play in an era now where it's easier then ever to put the ball in the endzone with the rules and scheme seen in the league. Throwing TD's or the lack thereof is a pretty good indicator of how well someone is playing the position.
 
Steel, you seem like one of the few here who actually knows something about football. So I'm kind of disappointed by this post. Historically bad? I guess it is safe to assume you never saw Mark Malone, Kent Graham, Bubby Brister or Kordell Stewart play for the Steelers.
I saw all of them. Kordell made the freaking pro bowl. He was nowhere near what I would call a great QB but Kenny isn't even one of the top 25 QB's in the league. He's thrown 13 TD's in 2 seasons. In Kordel's 1st season as a starter, he threw for 21 TDs and rushed for 11 in his 1st year as a season - 32 total TD's.

Kent Graham was terrible and he only started 5 games for the Steelers.

Mark Malone was really bad too but his TD% is still higher then KP.

Who was it said that "Kenny Pickett is a singles hitter but is batting cleanup because he's the QB?" I think it was Steve Young last year, not sure though.
 
Steel, you seem like one of the few here who actually knows something about football. So I'm kind of disappointed by this post.
Here's the thing.. I took my youngest son up to Latrobe the past 2 years to show him training camp. It just seemed Kenny had to work so hard and often overcompensated to push the ball. I've always thought he struggled with certain throws, especially ones that require touch. Even though it's been beaten to death, the small hands thing is real. Finally, I listen to JT O'Sullivan quite a bit. He's every bit as harsh with Pickett as he was with Canada and prior to that with Whipple. He has maintained that Kenny is very average when it comes to fundamentals. His footwork is inconsistent and he doesn't see the field very well. When I left Latrobe, I honestly thought Kenny's ceiling is probably like a Ryan Fitzpatrick if he has a ton of talent around him.

I'll die on the hill that if Kenny had the locker room behind him, Tomlin never entertains another starting QB. Tomlin listens to the locker room too much imo. But, he's wise enough to know that if the locker room has lost faith in QB1, he's going to make a change. The reason Ben had so much rope with all of his baggage, is the locker room and the opposing team knew the Steelers had a chance to be great if #7 was under center. Tomlin probably put up with a lot with #7 but knew he brought more to the table then he ever took away.
 
Huh? You ever watch Peyton Manning in his pre-game routine? You ever see Tom Brady talk to his receivers on the sideline?
I laid out the reasons why. I’m not going to explain them again. Reread my post.

We were comparing Kenny to Russell Wilson in this thread and now we are comparing him to Brady and Manning? What the heck are we even doing?
 
This thread gets dumber by the minute. Mike Penix and JJ McCarthy just went top 10. Let that sink in and think about what you're getting at #20 as the first QB taken.

Peyton Manning happens 1 out of 50 guys or more
Russell Wilson happens 1 out of every 100 or more
Tom Brady is 1 in a 1000 or more

Fans are dumb.

You can blame the Steelers for drafting him and thinking he was someone they could throw behind a horrendous OL, with the worst OC in the NFL, and expecting high level production immediatly. Mike Tomlin said multiple times he knew exactly what he was getting. Maybe folks should blame Tomlin rather than Pickett.
 
I laid out the reasons why. I’m not going to explain them again. Reread my post.

We were comparing Kenny to Russell Wilson in this thread and now we are comparing him to Brady and Manning? What the heck are we even doing?
You gave zero reasons why Kenny couldn't help his receivers with route running. Your reason that Kenny was only here for 2 seasons is bunk.

No one is comparing Kenny or Russell to Brady and Manning as players. The example was Manning/Brady was how a QB can help their receivers with routes and they do this pretty regularly. This relationship is not something the OC drives, this is all the work that is done on their own time.

Emmanuel Sanders used to crack on Ben when he went to Denver and he was saying the same thing the current crop of Steelers are saying about Kenny.
 
We were comparing Kenny to Russell Wilson in this thread and now we are comparing him to Brady and Manning? What the heck are we even doing?
I think a lot of people just enjoy the diversion. Oh, hey, the backup RB is shooting his mouth off now. Buried in the interview is an admission that nobody was listening to Canada and treated him like a joke. How long was that going on? So there's all this strife in the locker room and several players pretty much quit on plays or played their position the way they wanted to. Like, how the heck doesn't anyone go to Tomlin and ask him why he continues to allow a circus atmosphere to prevail? And this isn't exactly a new problem. Big time leadership issues with this club.
 
This thread gets dumber by the minute. Mike Penix and JJ McCarthy just went top 10. Let that sink in and think about what you're getting at #20 as the first QB taken.

Peyton Manning happens 1 out of 50 guys or more
Russell Wilson happens 1 out of every 100 or more
Tom Brady is 1 in a 1000 or more

Fans are dumb.

You can blame the Steelers for drafting him and thinking he was someone they could throw behind a horrendous OL, with the worst OC in the NFL, and expecting high level production immediatly. Mike Tomlin said multiple times he knew exactly what he was getting. Maybe folks should blame Tomlin rather than Pickett.
Damn. You have a pretty low opinion of Peyton Manning!
 
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You gave zero reasons why Kenny couldn't help his receivers with route running. Your reason that Kenny was only here for 2 seasons is bunk.

No one is comparing Kenny or Russell to Brady and Manning as players. The example was Manning/Brady was how a QB can help their receivers with routes and they do this pretty regularly. This relationship is not something the OC drives, this is all the work that is done on their own time.

Emmanuel Sanders used to crack on Ben when he went to Denver and he was saying the same thing the current crop of Steelers are saying about Kenny.
Again, Kenny Pickett in less than two years isn’t going to be where Russell Wilson is. It’s as clear as 2+2=4. So I have no problem with what our #2 back says. It’s the way it should be and it’s not the least bit eyebrow raising, But you felt the need to double down on the obvious.

I always laughed during the season when people here would say things about Pickett and use Burrow, Mahomes, and Allen as examples. And others would compare him to Ben. Now your reply is to compare him to arguably the two best in the history of the game.

Kenny might have a long career of sucking. He might not be the most charismatic person in the world. But the chronic piling on by fans just looking for gotcha’s is way over the top and transparent.
 
I think a lot of people just enjoy the diversion. Oh, hey, the backup RB is shooting his mouth off now. Buried in the interview is an admission that nobody was listening to Canada and treated him like a joke. How long was that going on? So there's all this strife in the locker room and several players pretty much quit on plays or played their position the way they wanted to. Like, how the heck doesn't anyone go to Tomlin and ask him why he continues to allow a circus atmosphere to prevail? And this isn't exactly a new problem. Big time leadership issues with this club.
But the main issue was lack of leadership from the QB LOL
 
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