Again - I don't think anyone thinks Justin Fields or Russ Wilson are 2 of the best QB's to ever play the game. That.is.the.comparison. We are not comparing Kenny to Manning or Brady.
Looking at that, I think it is very reasonable to highlight everything after the first sentence.
Because this is the company line. Warren knows not to speak out of turn - look at just what happened to Najee.
Bubby threw 20TD passes in a season and won a playoff game.
What “happened”? He hasn’t been much more than a middling player. At the salary number a case could be made to keep him, but nothing “happened”. And It’s a position where the value has taken a nosedive.
You don’t think him coming out and taking shots at the lack of discipline and structure didn’t factor into that decision of declining his option? If you don’t you haven't been paying attention.
No not really. What he said wasn’t all that bad and didn’t rise to the level you’re suggesting. Maybe we’ll find out differently eventually but I think it was nothing more than a business decision.
When he said there was more discipline and structure at Alabama than here is not that bad? Stop it!
Hey at least Russ gets with his receivers. I guess.
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lol. Based on that im not sure it’s a good thing he’s telling receivers how to run routes.Hey at least Russ gets with his receivers. I guess.
'All The Play Calls Had To Be Two Words:' Aditi Kinkhabwala Explains Russell Wilson's 2023 Struggles
The Pittsburgh Steelers’ overhaul of their quarterback room began with the team signing Russell Wilson, who was released by the Denver Broncos following two subpar seasons. During an appearance on The Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show, CBS Sports’ Aditi Kinkhabwala explained some of Wilson’s issues...
Here is the interview. The Kenny and Wilson talk starts at the 9:30 mark.
Russell Wilson…Yikes!!!
I mean it’s not good. Kenny had two below average seasons with the worst OC in the history of the game. Russell Wilson had a bad year with Nathaniel Hackett, which he gets a mulligan for. But then he had a rough year with one of the great offensive minds in the NFL. Does that get a mulligan too? What do the haters think?
Bubby Brister had more int.'s than TDs in 2 of his three years as the full time starter.
Any time you insert Matt Canada as part of a question, it makes the decision easy. We are talking about someone who is regarded as perhaps the worst of all time. Not the worst in a 32 team league…but the worst anyone has ever seen.
Yes ,my point being , the idea that you can compare KP's time here to any of the other schmucks not named Ben or Bradshaw is laughable because of Canada and the OL.
Aditi is very naive. I'll leave it at that. She's bringing up Jameis and Teddy as examples of Payton's prowess as a QB whisperer, when Russ in his "down year" produced better.Hey at least Russ gets with his receivers. I guess.
'All The Play Calls Had To Be Two Words:' Aditi Kinkhabwala Explains Russell Wilson's 2023 Struggles
The Pittsburgh Steelers’ overhaul of their quarterback room began with the team signing Russell Wilson, who was released by the Denver Broncos following two subpar seasons. During an appearance on The Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show, CBS Sports’ Aditi Kinkhabwala explained some of Wilson’s issues...
Here is the interview. The Kenny and Wilson talk starts at the 9:30 mark.
Russell Wilson…Yikes!!!
In his "rough year" he threw for 26 TDs and 8 ints.
And his coach paid tens of millions to get him as far away from his locker room as possible. But remind me of your point in the OP again?? Yikes.
Gotta love ynzer stiller fans. The rejects no other team wanted in a league where competent qbs are at a premium will magically transform the stillers
Yeah this steeler offense can be good for Wilson. Let’s hope it is. The horses up front are arriving. Would have been good for Kenny too for the reasons you said. Kenny is a good play action QB but it wasn’t what Matt Canada does and the Steelers might have gone play action less than any team in the league? So Wilson way better than Pickett? No. But better than Pickett? Perhaps.
Yinzers are so shallow they don’t understand the impact of the worst coordinator in the history of the game. To them it’s no different than having a sub par TE or OG. To them a player should be able to overcome it with ease. I have no affinity to Kenny. Absolutely none. I don’t care what he does in Philly, just like I don’t care what any Pitt player does in the NFL…and just like I don’t care what college Friemuth, Peezy Jr and Frazier went to. I just have to react when these folks show their football ignorance.
Same. KP isn’t a particularly charismatic or likable guy and he doesn’t appear to be a bad guy either
The piling on, yes, but it wasn't a secret that Payton didn't think much of Wilson. You don't pay a guy that much money to play for another team if you only slightly dislike him.
It's crazy to think in his "down year" where he threw 28 TD's and 9 ints, that his coach would pay millions of dollars to see him gone. Good grief, what would Payton do if he had Kenny - ship him and donate part of his coaching salary along with the transaction?
Yep...upgraded the position of OC - as noted, that's the biggest upgrade the Steelers made. And last time I looked the wise guys still had the Steelers over/under win total at the same number - it didn't move one tick with the additions of Wilson and Fields.
And Russ was 4th in sacks in 2023; 1st in 2022.
Every national expert gets their news from the “local” experts, which frankly is an oxymoron…because the local experts as we know have agendas. Most national “experts” also only see what’s going on on the field via their tv sets but aren’t detailed enough to know anything beyond the QB position. Most national experts don’t see poor route running and junior high play design. Most national experts don’t see that Canada ran play to run plays…and not run plays to set up other plays.
Was that the product of the offense and the playmakers making plays or Wilson’s great qb play
Fields is actually younger than Pickett. In the context of potential, Fields has 5x more so than Pickett. He may never work out in the NFL, just as Pickett may never pan out--but the ceiling is far higher for Fields. Fields with Chicago had all the same excuses that Pickett does for underperforming and then some, as the Stillers were unquestionably a better team and franchise with better coaches and front office than Da Bears during his time there. And if someone here wants to make the argument that Matt Eberflus is a better head coach than Tomlin, please do so, I could use a good laugh today.
A tandem of Wilson and Fields is certainly a lot sexier than Pickett and Rudolph but that’s a given considering Wilson’s career means that he’s a big name and Fields was a top player coming out of a top college program. But I’m sure one can use plenty of data points to craft an argument on either side. For example, Kenny had the fear of God in him not to turn the ball over…while Fields didn’t and therefore did it a ton. If I were starting a franchise and had those 4 to choose from, I’d take Fields myself…but plenty of people don’t think he has an upside more than Pickett. I personally do though. But both need way more talent and coaching they had with their last teams. Way more.
Good thing their QBs will do that since the Steelers don't employ a RB coach, WR coach, TE coach or any other position coach to watch film and teach the players the responsibilities of their position which should include coverage identification. As far as timing goes...that is what weekly practice is for along with a game plan.
spoken like a weekend warrior..
So a throwing session on an empty field with nobody covering them or tracking their routes teaches coverage identification, and precise route running under duress. I got it.
Not in the NFL.
