Kenny Impressing Early In Philly!

[Usuallyunusual-partdeux]

I know many PGH people have strong feelings about Kenny and the Steelers, but that's not what this post is about. It's about a Pitt man having positive pub (God knows he could use some) and seemingly getting a fresh start for his career.

According to an Eagles reporter:

Kenny Pickett delivers. The backup quarterback looked sharp, sharper than Jalen Hurts, to be honest. Hurts was on the money on his first two seven-on-seven throws, hitting A.J. Brown on a quick inside slant then following up with a nice sideline throw about 15 yards downfield. Pickett, though, was consistently on target. The Eagles can win games with him if something happens to Hurts.

H2P

 

[ChiefJusticeMarshall]

Hey. I hope he rips it up. He looked unbelievable this past preseason also. Then the lights came on, and he was Bobby Brady on Quiz Bowl.

 

[Usuallyunusual-partdeux]

Hey. I hope he rips it up. He looked unbelievable this past preseason also. Then the lights came on, and he was Bobby Brady on Quiz Bowl.

Yeah it was weird. He didn't lose the ability to be accurate over night, nor did he lose the ability to step up in the pocket...he was doing that beautiful at Pitt. I'm eager to see how he performs with a real OC and a varsity level offensive line.

 

[Fk_Pitt]

Yeah it was weird. He didn't lose the ability to be accurate over night, nor did he lose the ability to step up in the pocket...he was doing that beautiful at Pitt. I'm eager to see how he performs with a real OC and a varsity level offensive line.

He will be fine. He may never be great but he will be fine now that he’s away from a situation where 80-90% of QB’s would underperform.

I think Kenny is a different QB when there’s not a pass rush coming straight up the interior of his OL. So Kenny is best in the off-season, the preseason, and when he has a real NFL center in front of him.

 

[HailToPitt725]

Good for him! I think he’s going to get another chance to start somewhere.

 

[BigChungus90210]

I don't think his ability to be accurate when under no rush pressure was ever an issue. It's the NFL though, pass rushers are going to create problems more often than not.

 

[pittdan77]

I don't think his ability to be accurate when under no rush pressure was ever an issue. It's the NFL though, pass rushers are going to create problems more often than not.

It's going to take a while to convince him that he doesn't have to run for his life or let a D-lineman dance on his ribcage on every pass play because a good NFL line will give you time.

 

[WillyDavis33]

There is a reason why KP brought more value in his trade than Wilson or Fields!

I hope he becomes the starter in Philly and he delivers them many wins over the years. The Steelers are poorly run at this point!

 

[InDuzzwetrust]

He will be fine. He may never be great but he will be fine now that he’s away from a situation where 80-90% of QB’s would underperform.

I think Kenny is a different QB when there’s not a pass rush coming straight up the interior of his OL. So Kenny is best in the off-season, the preseason, and when he has a real NFL center in front of him.

The second part of this made me laugh. Kenny is better in the off-season. Lol.

 

[Fk_Pitt]

The second part of this made me laugh. Kenny is better in the off-season. Lol.

Just keeping it real. Lol.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

There is a reason why KP brought more value in his trade than Wilson or Fields!

I hope he becomes the starter in Philly and he delivers them many wins over the years. The Steelers are poorly run at this point!

Wilson was not traded this time. When he was traded, he and a 4th round pick fetched:

a 2022 1st round pick
a 2022 2nd round pick
a 2022 5th round pick
a 2023 1st round pick
a 2023 2nd round pick
Noah Fant
Shelby Harris
Drew Lock

So can we please stop saying this? Lol

 

[Fk_Pitt]

Wilson was not traded this time. When he was traded, he and a 4th round pick fetched:

a 2022 1st round pick
a 2022 2nd round pick
a 2022 5th round pick
a 2023 1st round pick
a 2023 2nd round pick
Noah Fant
Shelby Harris
Drew Lock

So can we please stop saying this? Lol

Ok. Let’s just say the Steelers didn’t pay 40 million dollars to make Kenny go away like the Broncos did Wilson!

 

[WillyDavis33]

Wilson was not traded this time. When he was traded, he and a 4th round pick fetched:

a 2022 1st round pick
a 2022 2nd round pick
a 2022 5th round pick
a 2023 1st round pick
a 2023 2nd round pick
Noah Fant
Shelby Harris
Drew Lock

So can we please stop saying this? Lol

Value in acquiring for the Steelers! How's that?

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

Value in acquiring for the Steelers! How's that?

He was let go. He was not traded. He's also 35 years old.

 

[303vND]

Hey. I hope he rips it up. He looked unbelievable this past preseason also. Then the lights came on, and he was Bobby Brady on Quiz Bowl.

The lights came on but he still had the worst OC in the NFL as his Director and his supporting cast starting with the "Offensive" line looking like props instead of actual actors.

 

[ChiefJusticeMarshall]

The lights came on but he still had the worst OC in the NFL as his Director and his supporting cast starting with the "Offensive" line looking like props instead of actual actors.

Let's not forget he made alot of poor reads. I mean pressure does that. But it is the NFL, QB's get pressured.

 

[RINGGOLD94]

Finally some good news on this board

 

[Fk_Pitt]

Let's not forget he made alot of poor reads. I mean pressure does that. But it is the NFL, QB's get pressured.

Of course he did. I don’t think anyone doubts that. Don’t they all? Some more than others. But others didn’t play within that steeler offense either.

 

[303vND]

Let's not forget he made alot of poor reads. I mean pressure does that. But it is the NFL, QB's get pressured.

Very true but he was under more than just pressure - he was under duress...RIGHT UP THE MIDDLE MOST TIMES!

 

[Fk_Pitt]

Very true but he was under more than just pressure - he was under duress...RIGHT UP THE MIDDLE MOST TIMES!

That’s a bingo. And let’s face it, that’s his kryptonite. It’s why I fully believed before these deals were made that the top 2 things to improve Picketts production this season would have been a new coordinator and a center. And the Steelers went out and did it.

He just happened to want out of town.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

Very true but he was under more than just pressure - he was under duress...RIGHT UP THE MIDDLE MOST TIMES!

Well why didn't he just spin left? That would have probably worked.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

That’s a bingo. And let’s face it, that’s his kryptonite. It’s why I fully believed before these deals were made that the top 2 things to improve Picketts production this season would have been a new coordinator and a center. And the Steelers went out and did it.

A WVU center snapping to a Pitt QB would have been pretty funny. Especially when throwing to a PSU tight end. Wish we could have seen that.

 

[Fk_Pitt]

A WVU center snapping to a Pitt QB would have been pretty funny. Especially when throwing to a PSU tight end. Wish we could have seen that.

I kinda wish we had one year to see it too…just so we could see what Pickett could do here with a more viable unit. In todays NFL in a salary cap world, the Steelers couldn’t fix every problem last offseason , although in hindsight everyone knows now that they should have fixed the coordinator problem. They knew that offense was patched together in a bad way, albeit the best way they could in one offseason. And let’s face it, we saw that Kenny wasn’t at the level to overcome it. But that doesn’t make him a bad QB or a bust. At least not yet.

 

[Fk_Pitt]

A WVU center snapping to a Pitt QB would have been pretty funny. Especially when throwing to a PSU tight end. Wish we could have seen that.

It would have showed the clowns in the 3 fanbases that the tribalism is stupid. Lol.

 

[RoguePanther]

I think Kenny is a different QB when there’s not a pass rush coming straight up the interior of his OL. So Kenny is best in the off-season, the preseason, and when he has a real NFL center in front of him.

Kinda like how I hit every ball straight at the driving range. And then it's a different story on the golf course. LOL. I'm a great range player..

 

[Fk_Pitt]

Kinda like how I hit every ball straight at the driving range. And then it's a different story on the golf course. LOL. I'm in great range player..

I think the thought is you can take a bad golfer and give him the best set of clubs on the planet and he’s till a bad golfer.

With Kenny, give him the proper “clubs” and he wouldn’t be the bad QB that people are saying he is. Maybe he wouldn’t shoot a 65 at Valhalla but maybe he’d shoot a 72…

 

[HOF Coach]

A WVU center snapping to a Pitt QB would have been pretty funny. Especially when throwing to a PSU tight end. Wish we could have seen that.

I wish I could have seen Joe Paterno sh*t his pants during a game again too... 🤷‍♂️

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

It would have showed the clowns in the 3 fanbases that the tribalism is stupid. Lol.

I feel like it would have made for some solid memes.

 

[forbesfield]

Let's not forget he made alot of poor reads. I mean pressure does that. But it is the NFL, QB's get pressured.

And in real games in the real season, defenses get disguised. It's possible that this is a big problem for him.

 

[forbesfield]

Kinda like how I hit every ball straight at the driving range. And then it's a different story on the golf course. LOL. I'm in great range player..

Can relate. If you watched me hit at the range, I swear you'd think I was low single digits, instead of a 15.

 

[WillyDavis33]

He was let go. He was not traded. He's also 35 years old.

So no other team could have acquired him? I realize he was not traded but there is an acquisition cost!

 

[lilspainishflea]

It was pretty weird that he torched several #1 units during the preseason, including the Bills and Bucs (both division winners), and then completely fell apart during the season.

I think that the difficult early schedule really contributed to his downfall. He played 2 of the top 8 defenses in DVOA in the last 45 years (2023 Baltimore was #5 and 2023 SF was #8) and the Browns were also really good (#18 since 1981). Our line let him get the s*** kicked out of him and he just wasn't effective in the saddle again. He looked like a totally different player compared to 2022, and he went from being super accurate to downright terrible in CPOE. It's hard to perfectly understand how that happened but I really believe strongly that he just got whooped for the first 5 weeks, had some shell shock, and his mechanics suffered which led to a decline in processing and accuracy.

Some veteran like Aaron Rodgers would have figured it out, but for a guy who was basically starting his 11th game, it's a lot harder to get things right because you don't have a strong foundation in the concepts and mechanics of what you're doing (or coaching to fix it). To use an analogy, I bet it's a lot easier to bust a cold shooting streak against the Hornets than it is the Celtics. Kenny played 4 playoff games in the first 5 weeks (and went 3-2).

Unfortunately for him, he was still basically a rookie, the Steelers didn't have a system to make it easier for him and he didn't have the advantage of lighting up a couple cupcakes. He lost confidence in the line, lost confidence in his eyes, and ultimately got hurt. Again, I'm not making excuses for him. Some guys get to play for a genius HC and get the #1 easiest schedule for QB (Brock Purdy). Some guys get a dude who was so bad he's probably never even a P5 OC again, let alone an NFL one, and one of the hardest stretches in NFL history over the first 5 weeks. For borderline talents, that stuff is what entire careers turn on.

Hope he kills it in Philly. Won't be surprised if he doesn't but I do expect him to be much better than 2023 Kenny.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

So no other team could have acquired him? I realize he was not traded but there is an acquisition cost!

So you think the Steelers should have just given a few draft picks to Denver for the player they no longer had control over? Or should they have needlessly thrown Denver $XX,XXX,XXX just for the heck of it, even though Denver is fully obligated to pay almost all of his salary? What is this magical acquisition cost?

 

[WillyDavis33]

So you think the Steelers should have just given a few draft picks to Denver for the player they no longer had control over? Or should they have needlessly thrown Denver $XX,XXX,XXX just for the heck of it, even though Denver is fully obligated to pay almost all of his salary? What is this magical acquisition cost?

You didn't answer my question

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

You didn't answer my question

He was a free agent. He could have gone anywhere. And any team that gave up anything or gave him a penny over the veteran minimum would have been a laughingstock in professional sports, not just football.

Other than the vet minimum contract it cost nothing outside of whatever it costs to host a player.

 

[303vND]

Well why didn't he just spin left? That would have probably worked.

Have you ever seen Dan Moore play?

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

So you think the Steelers should have just given a few draft picks to Denver for the player they no longer had control over? Or should they have needlessly thrown Denver $XX,XXX,XXX just for the heck of it, even though Denver is fully obligated to pay almost all of his salary? What is this magical acquisition cost?

It’s remarkable that as hot this topic’s been and how much it’s been discussed the number of people who can’t grasp a pretty simple concept. There is nothing complicated about this.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

Have you ever seen Dan Moore play?

I'm just messing. He was spinning left like a glitch in a video game.

 

[Usuallyunusual-partdeux]

Have you ever seen Dan Moore play?

Unfortunately, we've all seen Dan Moore play. Kenny still has nightmares about it.

 

[pittbb80]

He will be fine. He may never be great but he will be fine now that he’s away from a situation where 80-90% of QB’s would underperform.

I think Kenny is a different QB when there’s not a pass rush coming straight up the interior of his OL. So Kenny is best in the off-season, the preseason, and when he has a real NFL center in front of him.

Agreed. Very few QBs are good when frequently facing jail breaks and playing in a Friday Night offense (Steve Johnsons words not mine).

As I think we've both said many times, KP is far from a "franchise" QB who can carry a team. There are not that many in the history of the game. But hes shown signs that hes good enough to win with given the right talent around him Purdy would be garbage in the Canada led steeler offense. Id add that most of us who have defended KP said the jury is still out. While the deck was stacked against him with Canada, the OL and knuckle head receivers, he also showed some of the reasons why many were not that high on him (mainly the happy feet in the pocket). I have a feeling we'll find out this year how good he is.,