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I like Champagnie. Johnson, Toney, and McGowens are utter trash. 3 of the lowest character guys we've had at Pitt. I'll take Hugley stealing cars every day over the on court, locker room, and bedroom shenanigans of those 3 morons.
guys fighting over pu$$y, bad. Alleged car thieves, good. Man you are one messed up dude.
3 teammates fighting over some ho is actually a lot worse for team chemistry. Obviously - according to the law being an alleged car thief is worse.
I would feel a lot differently about Capel’s construction work to date-including the dismal W/L—if he wasn’t pouring an entirely new foundation for his house in year 4.
This was going to be a total rebuild job for him no matter what. But rebuilding was supposed to be what he was doing the past 3 years. Now he’s starting all over again. Not encouraging.
He seems like a separatist, not a good thing as a head coach
When it comes to his team probably a divider, not a United.
Pretty sure the chick in question was with Trey the year before…
as the saying goes, pussy never loses
Per Capel’s tweet it was not the players who were tearing the house apart, but the Coach himself who was tearing it down.
No doubt, but unfortunately he tied his fate to the wrong group of guys . I really think that the experience he’s gained while here should be valuable going forward . Knowing who to put your effort into and looking more deeply at the character issues is a must in future recruiting . Beggars can’t be choosy, but as his roster improves he can be more selective on who to recruit and when a player won’t conform to his style of play or on/off court conduct the bench awaits
him .
Come on man. What's the old saying? When the going get tough, the tough, ah, sleep through two years until they get fired and can collect a big buyout?
Or something like that.
Tbh, there was very little difference in Stallings last 5 years at Vandy & Dixon's last 5 at Pitt. I think each coach had maybe one NCAA tourney win in that time frame. Both coaches had become stagnant and it seemed neither school wanted to wield the axe, but were more than willing to give them a push out the door.
Let's pretend that were true. Why drive Dixon out to replace him with another stagnant coach? It makes no sense.
Barnes: "Our program has been stagnant for five years. It is time to shake things up! Why not hire another worse, stagnant coach? I heard he's about to be fired, so I'm sure he'll be interested!"
Especially when Purdue wanted rid of Matt Painter and he wanted to come to Pitt at the time…
The only way Painter would have come to Pitt is if he was fired by Purdue. We were never going to hire him away. They are a notch above us on the food chain.
I thought the rumor at the time was he had gone tired there (they were kind of in a lull at the time), and he was shopping with us. Could be wrong but I thought Thats what I heard at the time.
either way even BK would’ve been better than stallings
Barnes continued: “Don’t worry, i won’t be here long. I will wreck things and promptly bail.”
This whole Pitt coaching thing is a big weird drama where everyone seems to be a dud.
4.6 million for a football coach to win 7 games. Gotta love it
Probably a broader point, but Pitt football doesn’t have nearly the drama and disfunction of Pitt basketball.
No but I think they have an easier path to an elite season being in the ACC coastal and basically just needing one year of an elite QB.
Which can’t be said about hoops. We had an elite player this year and went 6-10 in the ACC. If Pickett turns from a pretty good QB to elite this year they win 10’games.
Not when they run iso’s four times in a row from the one yard line.
How many elite players do you think there were in college basketball last year?
20 or so. Champagnie was the runner up for the ACC player of the year. Do you really think that’s not elite?
There’s a lot more missing than a top line QB, which Pickett has not been to this point and is highly unlikely to become in his 5th year. He is what he is. The defense lost its best players and there is promise in their replacements but there’s inexperience and they’re bound to have some growing pains. Everyone is assuming we are set at WR, RB and TE. Other than Addison at one spot all are open questions. What about our kicking game? Totally unproven. Then there’s the O line. Downright bad last year, very iffy going into this year.
Lastly, there’s the coaching. Other than Bates, there’s not a lot to inspire confidence in the guys calling the shots on Saturdays either.
Sorry to take you to task on this but I don’t understand the notion that we’re just a stud QB away from a great year.
so this was just a 3.5 year growth process fot jeff??
wait what???? didnt we hire him because of his "experience"?
I don’t know. I would think an elite player would be top ten in the country and carrying his teams to wins.
Do you think he was really one of the top twenty players?
I don't think for a second that Stallings was Plan A or even Plan B. But I think it was obvious to anyone that followed Pitt basketball that program was stagnant, there wasn't a lot of talent in the pipeline and that 2017-18 was going to be drop-off without some unforeseen heroics on the recruiting trail. I think the goal was to break with Jamie without anything getting messy & without the program cratering on his watch. I think some of the motivation to preserve his legacy, tbh. TCU was the perfect landing spot for Dixon.
And if you want to talk about someone that seemed resigned to a fate, I think Jamie seemed to be resigned to idea that his best days at Pitt were in the rear view mirror and that the ACC wasn't a good fit for Pitt.
Why would Purdue want rid of Painter in 2016 & why would he look to leave? They were 26-9 with a B1G tourney runner up and they went to the NCAA. They would go on to win the Big 10 the next year.
Right. He can't coach, he can't recruit and his teams collapse and are dysfunctional and players can't wait to get the hell out of the program every season he's been here just about. I guess the only thing he has left is to try and act cocky and arrogant on twitter because he sure as hell has shown nothing at Pitt going on 4 seasons.
I personally wouldn’t put the “elite” tag on Champagnie, but there’s no debating that he was an excellent, excellent player.
The common refrain I’ve heard from other Pitt guys I talk with is that “They just need one or two studs and it can change everything” but we had one in Champagnie along with guys like XJ/Toney who, if nothing else, were great supporting players. The idea that Capel pulling a few 5 star/high 4 star rabbits from his hat and flipping the script just doesn’t carry water with me. These things have to be built from the ground up and I have yet to see that we’re intent on doing that.
I don’t think you “took me to task”. We just have a difference of opinion. My general point is that an elite QB can win you a lot of games very quickly whereas one player is not going to do that in basketball despite what we’ve been told. Obviously there are other factors.
If Ben Simmons, Anthony Edwards and Markelle Fultz (yes I know he sucks now but he was good enough to be a #1 pick) weren’t enough to overcome bad coaching and average teammates to even make a tournament of 68 one player isn’t going to make a difference at Pitt. I just think the notion of landing one elite player solves our problem and makes our season special isn’t going to be in the cards.
We are allowed to have different opinions, still, I believe.
So you’re saying this year is THE YEAR!!! We have a 5th-year QB, what more do we need!!
That's another head scratcher. How can anyone pay a football coach that kind of obscene money to win 6 - 7 games every single year????? For that kind of money, I'd expect at least 10 wins every year. Maybe an off year every 5 or so, but 9 - 11 wins annually goes with $4.6mil.
Maybe not every year 10 wins, but how about ONCE? It’s like overpaying for coach C with the extension… who’s hiring these guys away?
I think the one stud player can make all the difference in basketball IF he joins a team that is otherwise solid but lacking star power in a key role. See Duane Wade at MU for example. No different in football with a QB. See Wisconsin with Russell Wilson.
If the team is otherwise dysfunctional and/ or lacking legit P6 players, then you get what Pitt was. I would add that the best 3 players on that team, including Champ, all seemed selfish and focused on padding their stat sheets. That typically doesn’t work well in the W/L column. And that’s squarely on JC.
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