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Looks like you guys might be getting Toney

Lol, it was a matter of time before these hideous accusations reared their heads again. In the last couple years any sort of dissent or disastisfaction with 7 win seasons is met with ugly rhetoric by the majority of the fan base.

Sorry, seven win seasons don't appease me.

What "hideous accusations" are you referring to?

Really, you're not fooling anyone. Isn't it past your bed time? I used to do these kind of things when I was 12 but then I grew up.
 
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Don't let the handle "lionrevival" fool you. This guy is a Pitt fan posing as a Penn State fan. He has been exposed on BWI beyond a reasonable doubt. He hates everything about PSU football and everything he posts about PSU is negative.

Congrats to Pitt on a strong closing to your recruiting class. I look forward to our games in the next two years.



Fair enough! Thanks. Welcome to our board and my comments toward him applies with you. Hopefully you can engage with your views and even in debate I'll respect our differences!!! We probably will agree quite a bit too. Good luck!
 
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Why would I feel stupid? We just lost several commitments in the last few weeks and failed to replace with better players. After the Hudson and Hamlin debacle I feel quite justified and saying that Franklin is sinking the ship.
I agree that the recruitment of Hudson didn't go very well. Franklin slow played him and got burned in the end after he blew up. What was the debacle about Hamlin? Both Pitt and PSU recruited him hard and he chose to stay home. Can't fault Hamlin or Franklin for that. The kid made a decision and good luck to him.
 
Fair enough! Thanks. Welcome to our board and my comments toward him applies with you. Hopefully you can engage with your views and even in debate I'll respect our differences!!! We probably will agree quite a bit too. Good luck!
Greg, sorry to hear you were banned from the BWI board. I always thought your posts there were respectful and well-reasoned, definitely not troll or flame material.
 
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Nothing like the bwi folk bringing their internal fights to our board. The op did nothing wrong except go against the cult doctrine and then he gets attacked which only reinforces the feelings we have against the cult members. Let reasonable discussions remain...
 
Nothing like the bwi folk bringing their internal fights to our board. The op did nothing wrong except go against the cult doctrine and then he gets attacked which only reinforces the feelings we have against the cult members. Let reasonable discussions remain...

And if somebody goes against doctrine on our message board?
 
The last decade Paterno was there was full of controversy and people wanting him out. Even after 2005 & 2008 people wanted him out believing he should go out on a high note. The entre offensive staff (especially Jay) was bashed constantly. As was the fact Penn State only had a handful of coaches that were active recruiters.

Donovan was the scapegoat but most fans love the Moorhead hire (I don't) so he's being praised for that. Most fans also wrongly blamed Hand for the OL issues so him leaving for Auburn wasn't seen as a a negative. Limegrover was a solid pick-up I have to admit. Shoop didn't go over well but Shoop took the heat for that more than Franklin.

The criticism of Franklin involving Hack has been very well-deserved. Most fans go back to Franklin not having "his type of QB" so they're giving him a pass for that and making McSorley out to be the next Johnny Football only with class. The reality is--he had an elite QB and failed to build an offense around him. I'll never understand why Zembiec didn't flip.

The poor close to this class shouldn't be ignored but it will be as people quickly turn their attention to the 2017 class which is loaded in the region.

Personally, I don't think Franklin's in over his head. He was the best possible hire at the time it was made. It may not work out but they hired the right guy. 2015-2016 were always going to be the worst years once the sanctions were reduced. If Penn State goes 6-6 next year I'm content (not happy--content)...then in 2017 we need to start seeing an rise. Even if that's only 8 wins in 2017.

Great post & a realistic assessment of where PSU is at as a program.
 
Shaka Toney's LOI is in at Penn State...it says DL. I'm assuming HCPN knew Toney preferred DE to LB and offered it to flip Toney. Good strategy on his part and forced CJF to agree to a DE tryout for Toney. Supposedly he's around 200 lbs so he'll have to put on an awful lot of weight to play DE. You guys have some good DEs and they all seem to be in the 230-270 range.
 
Fair enough! Thanks. Welcome to our board and my comments toward him applies with you. Hopefully you can engage with your views and even in debate I'll respect our differences!!! We probably will agree quite a bit too. Good luck!

Thanks for the cordial welcome. Unfortunately, I think both BWI and Pantherlair are quick on the banning trigger when it comes debating differences between our teams so I am very picky about when I choose to participate in posting on this board. I participated in discussions on this board years ago and, although I thought I was being very respectful in presenting my opposing views, I ended up being banned. I have no idea why. I am sure many on this board have experienced the same thing at BWI. I guess it comes with the territory of being in state rivals. In any event, for whatever reason I became "unbanned" but I am still mainly a lurker on your board. I like to read your board because I want to see how the other side (I don't think anyone dislikes PSU as much as Pitt fans do) perceives what is going on with PSU's program. Sort of like a Democrat watching Fox News every night.

Congrats on your recruiting class and good luck next year except against PSU. Being originally from the Burgh and growing up a Pitt fan, I do want to see Pitt succeed except against PSU.
 
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Not really. They're bashing the kid, bashing the father. Blaming the BOT because if they treated Paterno better then Pryts wouldn't be flipping.

Of everything that has happened in State College over the past four years, the delusional hatred of the Board of the Trustee is just the most bizarre aspect of the entire scandal to me. Paterno and his flunkies dropped a pile of **** into the lap of the board, yet it is the BoT's fault wanting to disassociate the university from everyone those with the worst scandal in college sports history?

The fact that the alumni elects new BoT members based not on their qualifications but on how much they want to bring back a phony image of sainthood for the dead football coach shows that Emmert and Freeh were exactly right about a CULTure out of control with misplaced priorities.

What other school in the country elects BoT members based on how pure they are regarding worship of a dead football coach? How was the Board of Trustees going to repair that image Paterno dumped into their lap in November 2011 without getting rid of the people responsible for not reporting Jerry to the authorities?
 
Yep, that's me. Did not know about knee. Do you play at all?



No had two scopes in last 2 years. Three total on the knee. Not much left. Need a total but I'm 52 so trying to hold off to 60 yrs old. I don't miss your rippers down the line though!!! Hope you're great and healthy!!!
 
No had two scopes in last 2 years. Three total on the knee. Not much left. Need a total but I'm 52 so trying to hold off to 60 yrs old. I don't miss your rippers down the line though!!! Hope you're great and healthy!!!
Doing great now. 2 weeks ago had heart cath with stent placed. Back to playing paddle at full strength. Jay is in Denver now with Broncos. He and family are at Super Bowl by way of team plane.
 
Doing great now. 2 weeks ago had heart cath with stent placed. Back to playing paddle at full strength. Jay is in Denver now with Broncos. He and family are at Super Bowl by way of team plane.


Great to hear your stent work went smoothly!!! Awesome for Jay. I'm sure you miss him but Denver is great! Hope he gets a ring!!! Does he have one from Pens? Tell him I said good luck! Are you going to San Fran?
 
Great to hear your stent work went smoothly!!! Awesome for Jay. I'm sure you miss him but Denver is great! Hope he gets a ring!!! Does he have one from Pens? Tell him I said good luck! Are you going to San Fran?
Has a ring from Pens, hopefully gets one next week. Not going to SF. Should have gone. Had free room near stadium, but ticket $1000.
 
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