Matt Canada enters the portal
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It seems sometimes Kelce spends have the game griping to the officials about holding or DPIs...I don't know if they missed it or just let it go.
No worries. It may be for some. I think his is at least adequate. But there’s more to making all the throws than arm strength.
Remember Jeff George? Absolute cannon. And who threw a prettier ball? But he stunk.
Left a buck or more yardage with the drops. KC leads the league. But all QB’s experience that.
I watched that game in its entirety on a flight home from FL. There were plenty of routes run to the intermediate middle and deep segments of the field. On some of those plays, the OL didn't give KP enough time or room to step up and make the throws. On others, KP never even looked downfield.
That's what I want to see, let him play, if he throws a few picks and we go 7-10 instead of 9-8 so be it, I rather let him sink or swim and see if he has anything rather than worry about getting to a wild card game and losing by 3 TDs.
You should train your receivers to do that, who knows, maybe because our guy is whining some ref reflexive gives us an undeserved flag.
This guy should talk to this guyWho needs to be productive, it's just lighthearted conversation for recreation and fun. Who thinks it changes their life ?
I’ll remind you he’s playing because they benched Mitch who sucked .
And Kenny has been better than Mitch
This isn’t complicated and has nothing to do with nfl speed
I’m calling bullshit on the arm issue. He has more than a strong enough arm to throw it down the field over the middle. If he can throw 15-20 yard outs on a rope he can make those throws.
He may not have the cannon some others have but he can make all the throws needed
We can't break that glorious streak of non losing records Tomlin has. It doesn't matter that their last playoff victory is far back in the rear view mirror.
I don't know if Pickett is the long term answer for them, but they won't find out either if he is handcuffed by the play calling. He needs better protection and receivers to make tough catches some times too. Still, the bottom line is production. They will not continue to win with an anemic offense, and that offense starts with good plays being called (or audibled) and the QB and cast making them count.
And? it's all fun? nobody's life is really affected. Message boards are for recreation, nothing serious.
Funny how that coincides with Canada Dry taking over. And look at his 4q stats when he went hurry up and called his own plays. Hmmm
I’m aware of why he’s playing.
And my response was directed to the FKs question about scouting and Pickett’s ability to make all the throws. Lots of guys look good in shorts. Things change in NFL games. The speed of the game and smaller windows matter. I remember reading how the coaches had to work that into Tua T’s head.
This. Throwing a pass when the receiver is still covered but putting it into the spot where he will be when it gets there and he has a chance to make a play. Having said that, if a guy is open and Kenny has the time...he has to find him and get it there. He has done it before.
For sure there’s a difference between physically being able to make the throws (ie arm strength ) and being able to consistently see the receiver coming open and accurately placing the throw where it can be caught
KP doesn’t have a cannon but his arm is physically strong enough to make very throw The question really comes down to field vision and consistent accuracy
Since the vast majority of the throws are short outs not sure anyone can draw a conclusion. I mean you’d hope that if the OC is allegedly calling those plays over the middle the qb would occasionally throw rhe ball there or you bench him. KP isn’t even looking down field over the middle most play which leads me to believe he’s doing what the OC expected
The throw that Kenny made to the sideline (to his right) is an example. It was 20 yards downfield off his back foot. When the defender closed on DJ and the pass fell incomplete, my first thought was lack of arm strength. Then upon replay, you see that the ball had zip and arrived in plenty of time but DJ caught only the back side of the ball loosely which allowed the defender to jar it loose. Then last night I hear DJ had a finger injury last week. So yeah Kenny isn’t Jeff George but he has a pro arm, otherwise he wouldn’t have been a first round QB by many teams. And let’s admit what rarely gets said…his receivers have dropped balls and ran wrong routes just as often as Kenny has missed throws. And it’s partly why Canada is gone. There are so many chips stacked against this offense and one of them is now gone.
It’s a combo of bad. The OC, the OL (and OL coach), the WRs, etc. But let’s not look at it thru the blue and gold glasses either. Kenny needs to do better.
Hopefully they can get the other factors squared away a bit so he gets a fair shake and proper evaluation.
Okay but I seen reports they are looking at bigger fish. I only threw the name out there because of his Pittsburgh roots
No Stiller fan should have reasonably expected a playoff team with a third rate second year quarterback starting. That the Stillers have gone 15-12 the past two seasons is quite an accomplishment.
Let's just really hope (and PRAY) that Narduzzi doesn't get rid of cignetti and the replaces him with canada.
Nobody was tanking for Kenny
They did tank for tua
It’s a silly analogy
Who said anything about anyone tanking? I don’t know what the hell you’re even talking about.
Tua was seen as a generational talent .
So his “coaching up “ is pretty much silly .
Just needed reps
Tua Tagovailoa learns NFL receivers don't usually run as open as Alabama's
Tua Tagovailoa is adjusting to life in the NFL. One reality for the Dolphins' rookie: receivers aren't wide open as often as in the SEC.
www.palmbeachpost.com
And they went out and got him Hill and a first round WR. Funny how that works huh? And his coach knows offense.
Tua was always a very talented generational type qb
He completed 64% of his passes his rookie yrsr
He completed 64%!last year
69% so far this season
Ya think it was because of coaching up about the windows ?
Lulz
I’d say the cheetah is more the difference
I was simply making a point that even those who were much more highly thought of than Kenny can have some struggles. One of Tua’s was learning what’s open in college vs the pros.
While this is a move that had to be made, it's still frustrating because the Steelers never should've got to this point. Canada should've never been hired and it was painfully obvious after his first year that he would be a failure in the NFL. Yet here we are, sitting nearly at the end of Pickett's second year with a beaten up QB with zero confidence.
I hope they let him sling the ball around the field, but I'm not exactly hopeful. The Steelers didn't have anyone with a pedigree on staff ready to step in. Maybe these guys will surprise us.
I hope they let him sling the ball around the field, but I'm not exactly hopeful. The Steelers didn't have anyone with a pedigree on staff ready to step in. Maybe these guys will surprise us.
He can. It's just not easy for him though. He's basically Mac Jones with better hair and temperament.
Not sure I buy that. I mean regardless of what you think of Canada's schemes, the overall gist of the game plan, (like number of throws to the outside, screens, etc) Tomlin had to sign off on that.
Had it been the Steelers to squeak out a 13-10 win with a FG on the last possession Sunday, do you think this move would have been made?
There are a few on this site who would believe it was Heather's responsibility to fire him.
Nah. Wonder if Rooney or Tomlin walked across the building to check with Frank?
Ah so we are playing the drops
year 1 64% completion rate
Year 3 64 completion rate
Buddy , I know ya have a narrative in mind ya want to stick to -
But this is terrible example
Yes
Because the offense has gotten worse all 3 years
The players are openly revolting against him
It’s been overdue for weeks
that was the closest thing I've ever seen to a mutiny on any team.
I think TD is right. If the Steelers win, Canada is likely still around. Tomlin is enough of a statesman that he would cool the players for another week.
And it does concern me that this is the offense that Tomlin wanted.
And here’s something else that concerns me…Sullivan was Kenny’s QB coach and Kenny has regressed.
And here’s what else also concerns me…Faulkner is said to have been responsible for the running back distribution of labor and he’s mangled that. Additionally I’m sure Tomlin vetoes things anyway and wants Najee in the game more.
So there’s lots for us to be confident about with our coaching staff. Lol.
Yeah his arm is plenty strong enough. That arm argument has no basis.
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