This ignores the fact that Zappe has a real OC and what he did last night was a one-half aberration over a short career of mediocrity and Kenny has had Canada as an OC, an abject failure and truly one of the worst OCs in NFL history.
Yes, the real OC, whose team scored 13 points combined the last 3 games, and Kenny has 24 starts, why hasn't he had a one-half aberration with probably 10 times the reps that Zappe has, where is Kenny's aberration game?
The patrriots beat a bad and struggling Steelers .
I remember there was a guy who was out of football named Tommy Maddox. Turns out he was a perfect bridge QB who could win games. The NFL is awful at evaluating QB play. Mason Rudolph would be a quality starter in the right system. The question that should be asked is how did Colbert and Tomlin look at Trubisky’s 50+ games has a starter and think “ He’s better than Mason and he can start and win us games “…….that same process is still in the building misevaluating QB play
I wouldn't worry about mediocre stats, but I am tired of people acting like his pathetic stats don't matter. you don't think it's possible that this team could have won a few more games if Kenny had put up more yards and passing TDs? Maybe they compete in a game instead of losing 30-7? maybe they beat an AZ 28-24, instead of losing 24-10 if Kenny has yards and TDs? This is what I find funny, people thinking the lack of stats doesn't matter and having less yards and TDs than average is OK.
Tommy Maddox was great; he had a major league arm and mentality attached to an insurance agents' body.
What do you want - 300 yards passing and 3tds and 2int in a loss
Why can't you have the 3-2-300 and a win, I see that happen often enough. And plenty of times you also see 200-1-0 and it's a loss.
Because I’m asking the questions to see where your priority actually is
Not throwing picks isn't the be all and end all of passing, Josh Allen, Mahomes, Tua, Hurts, Goff, all have double or triple the picks that Kenny has, also double or triple the TDs and their teams aren't losing, probably because more TDs impacts winning as much or more than not turning it over. I guess the difference is between going out and trying to win by scoring or going out and trying to win by making less mistakes and hoping you win because the other team screws up rather than because you have the skill to score.
So- you named the top 5 qbs in the nfl as being preferable
The point was not who they are as much as that they are throwing more picks, I can add Love, Mayfield, Geno Smith, Russell Wilson, Lawrence to the list, all throwing double the picks Kenny throws, all have double TDs too. the point is minimizing ints isn't everything, being obsessed with never risking a pick probably cuts your TD numbers significantly. DeVito has 7 TDs in a third of Kenny's attempt, he's probably pulling the trigger on throws that Kenny backs off on, I'd rather he let it rip and risk the int.
Yeah that’s a bingo. I think Tomlin is enamored with a QB who can move and he doesn’t think Rudolph can. Except Rudolph was athletic enough to rush for 60 yards on a rainy day in his last start here. The problem is, he only had one receiver to throw to that day due to injuries, and that WR fumbled the game away in FG position in OT.
Sometimes an occasional pick down field isn’t any worse than a 3 and out by your offense. I’d argue that the 3 and outs are worse because you’re not resting your defense. If there was an advanced stat to measure such things, I wonder how a 3 and out would be measured vs an int.
I’d point out that Tommy Maddox was a first round draft pick
Did I really just read "Tommy Maddox was great?" First Zappe and now Tommy Maddox. LOL, holy shit. You should probably sit out any discussions of QBs. Please tell me you're trolling.
He also had well into double figures in fumbles
Go back over the last number of years and see how many "Bailey Zappe" quarterbacks had real good games against us. When Dick LeBeau was DC, that is when rookie and young quarterbacks struggled.
I can ‘t remember having 3rd stringers and backups at MLB those years , either - in fairness
Hes not a better option than Mitch, though. Mitch blows but Rudolph never sniffed a modicum of success.
He was better than Kenny, Kenny hasn't come close to performing at his level, what a relief it was when Tommy kicked Kordell to the curb and we got major league passing for the first time. He wasn't elite, but you can probably find a dozen games where his performance was double Kennys best games ever.
Where is Kenny's "really good game", when is he going to have JUST ONE? How much longer do we need to wait?
What do you consider a good game? Just stats? I guess the 4th quarter comebacks to win games don't count because he didn't put up gaudy numbers? The team was tied or losing those games and he engineered a drive to win the game, but that isn't as important as winning.
A good game would include consistency in all 4 quarters, so you build a lead and don't necessarily need a comeback. I find it funny that so many of you equate good stats to losing for some reason. And yeah, how about Kenny, just once putting up GAUDY STATS, would that be a bad thing if he ever did? He engineered some awesome game winning drives, how about more engineering, more often in the 1st three quarters.
Some people seem to equate putting up good stats to losing, why is that?
More excuses for Kenny! I certainly hope he can ever play as good as Tommy Maddox played in 2002, he hasn't come close yet, Sure it was just one season, let's hope Kenny can get that good someday.
Will putting up good stats lead to losing? How often does a QB who throws 13 TDs in 24 starts win a championship, can you find any examples of that?
Pointing out that Maddox wasn't even average, while playing with multiple Hall of famers, isn't making excuses for Kenny.
But he's not even playing half as good, maybe he can play in a local flag football league? In 2 games Flacco has almost passed him in TD passes, this whole idea that throwing TD passes doesn't matter is totally insane, I guess it's just to protect PITT GUY Kenny.
Nice cherry picking, so are we to believe that the record is better during the 20 worst games? I mean not counting the 1930s or the single wing days. You people saying that stats are meaningless are totally insane and just protecting the PITT GUY, just because he's a PITT GUY,
