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Does anyone really care if they don’t have a season?
No. It’s basebore.Does anyone really care if they don’t have a season?
Who?
WHO? They've been wrong on every prediction on this virus. I don't know why they don't just ask the Rolling Stones about it.Yes, he’s on first.
a baseball game shouldn't be longer than 2:15. it could be watchable under those circumstances. otherwise, don't care.
That's a good point.The one thing that baseball has over every major sport is the atmosphere of a summer day or night at the park. Especially at PNC. If fans can’t attend what is the point?
These jerks better start to realize that having a season, any kind of season, is crucial to the future of this League. Having no season this year combined with certain labor strife next year could be very bad for both sides.They have gone back and forth 5 times now and it will take another 2-3 counters to get a deal done. But who cares about a 60 game schedule or whatever they come up with. The sad thing is of all the major sports baseball is the one that should care most about fans since they are losing popularity with each passing year. They could have hammered out an agreement 3 weeks ago.
Yes, he’s on first.
They have gone back and forth 5 times now and it will take another 2-3 counters to get a deal done. But who cares about a 60 game schedule or whatever they come up with. The sad thing is of all the major sports baseball is the one that should care most about fans since they are losing popularity with each passing year. They could have hammered out an agreement 3 weeks ago.
Does anyone really care if they don’t have a season?
They agreed to a shortened season with prorated salaries. The owners now say that was if fans were permitted. Now they want to pay the prorated salary plus further cuts. The players aren't buying. They are also arguing over length of season. At first the owners said 82. The players countered with 112 [which is ridiculous]. So the owners said 50 and now they are talking 72. They need to settle on a number of games played and agree to prorated salaries and get to playing.Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't they have a deal a while back and then the owners wanted to change it?
They agreed to a shortened season with prorated salaries. The owners now say that was if fans were permitted. Now they want to pay the prorated salary plus further cuts. The players aren't buying. They are also arguing over length of season. At first the owners said 82. The players countered with 112 [which is ridiculous]. So the owners said 50 and now they are talking 72. They need to settle on a number of games played and agree to prorated salaries and get to playing.
Given the player's union history, I'm not surprised they are fighting back with some force.
I think that’s the strategy the owners were using when the submitted their initial proposal, similar to what the NFL owners did in 2011.I don't get the unions stance on no salary cap as it favors the mega stars where a cap forces teams to have to have many good but not necessarily mega stars so the salary for the no mega stars is less. They all vote and there are many more non mega stars than mega stars.
a baseball game shouldn't be longer than 2:15. it could be watchable under those circumstances. otherwise, don't care.
I don't get the unions stance on no salary cap as it favors the mega stars where a cap forces teams to have to have many good but not necessarily mega stars so the salary for the no mega stars is less. They all vote and there are many more non mega stars than mega stars.
Did I read where the players are balking at 75% of their salaries for a season that was cut by 50%?
That's not going to win them many friends, or fans.
You may have read something like that, but you misunderstood it.
The players position is that if they play 50% of the season they should get 50% of their salaries. The owners latest proposal was that they would play 76 games and get paid 75% of 76 games salary. In other words, they would play 76 games and essentially get paid for 57 of them. And that would only be if there was no disruption to the playoffs. If the playoffs were disrupted then the players would have played 76 games and would essentially get paid for 38 of them.
Relief pitching is out of hand even with the new rules. Each pitch is 9th inning of the World Series drama. Relievers are making too much money and it shows with the deliberate style on the mound.a baseball game shouldn't be longer than 2:15. it could be watchable under those circumstances. otherwise, don't care.
They did say they could opt out of playing in 2020 and it will still count toward their retirement years but they won't get paid.
Would you be clamoring for a salary cap if we had an owner like Cuban and a winning team?I amhoping they don't play this year and don't return until there is a cap and a floor. The cap makes for a competitive league and a reasonable floor will force out a jackass like Nutsack as an owner. When he has to pony up a reasonable 110-125 million in salary every year, he will finally sell the Pirates. The current setup is so broken, I don't care if they ever come back. Their avarice is astounding on both sides. Other leagues have figured out how to make a good and competitive product. MLB can cease to exist tomorrow and I would be happy.
Yes, true except the owners are losing money because there are no gate revenues.Well that’s just dumb.
they should be paid whatever % of the season they play with an equal % of the salary.
I'm glad to see some still enjoy baseball. I'm hoping someday that the Pirates will have an owner that places a competitive team on the field. One can only hope. When the Pirates were doing really well in the 70's and early 90's it was alot of fun for the city of Pittsburgh.Personally, I do. I’m a Pirates fan for better or worse and I’m holding out hope there’s a season.
The Chinese care meister since they can't produce bobbleheads for nutsack.WHO cares!