I continue to watch the big fella Burns, backing into the defender, and displacing him. i don’t understand how that is within the rules? last night I think the referees were sort of miffed by this tactic, but let it roll. can anyone explain this?
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It is not just him backing in, which is horribly bad as it creates an advantage. But he also uses his off-arm to bang and push the defender away to create more space to back into. If refs called the game right, he would be fouled out after his 5 possessions.I continue to watch the big fella Burns, backing into the defender, and displacing him. i don’t understand how that is within the rules? last night I think the referees were sort of miffed by this tactic, but let it roll. can anyone explain this?
I dont understand the rule on this. I've never seen a charge called in my life unless the defender flopped but what Burns is doing definitely seems like a charge. I was at their game vs UVa last week and the UVa guy sitting next to me was getting so frustrated and saying to the ref "do you want him to flop?" I guess that's the only defense you can play. Wait for the right moment and flop.
BTW, the Yinzer neutrals LOVED DJB. Pretty sure I've never seen a neutral crowd ever react to 1 player like this crowd reacted every time he touched it. In the 2nd Half, when he touched it, the crowd began cheering, some rose to their feet, guys in North Hills shirts high-fiving. It was pure excitement.
My Dad used to say this Shaq would foul with his ass. lolBeen saying this for years. Shaq made a career out of it. Evidently, you're allowed to do whatever the hell you want, with few exceptions, in basketball as long as you're moving backwards.
Sometimes they'll get you if you lower the shoulder or hook an arm underneath. But as long as it's your wide ass you're using as a lethal weapon, go ahead and push the defender into the 5th row.
It's funny, because most of the outrage I've seen on these broadcasts is that they're not calling the foul on the defense.
My Dad used to say this Shaw would foul with his ass. lol
He wasn’t wrong really
kind of accentuated even more when you are a fan of a team that has 5's coming in at an average weight of 142 lbs...I continue to watch the big fella Burns, backing into the defender, and displacing him. i don’t understand how that is within the rules? last night I think the referees were sort of miffed by this tactic, but let it roll. can anyone explain this?
Reminds me of Pitt dumping Villanova their last loss before they won the National ChampionshipAll this said, I hope NC State wins it all. Aside from being my wolf brethren, they're fun to watch and beneficial to the ACC's perception. It's also cool to say we were the last team to beat them. Looks like they should at least advance another game.
thinking the almost the exact same thing (Not to be a Clavin, but it was not their last loss though as they lost in the Big East tournament--Georgetown dominating the BE tournament was one of the reasons for the David vs Goliath scenario later on)....absolutely smoked them. I always credited that loss with putting their minds in order to make their run...Reminds me of Pitt dumping Villanova their last loss before they won the National Championship
It seems like if a 250 lb defender flops, Burns will occasionally get called for a charge. Like he must have hit the guy really hard to knock him over. But if sends a 205 lb defender flying it won't be called because the defender was just too scrawny to be guarding him. If anything, the skinny guy gets called for a foul because he brought his arms down. As if anyone can keep the arms vertical while having someone who outweighs them by 70 lbs slamming into their midsection.I continue to watch the big fella Burns, backing into the defender, and displacing him. i don’t understand how that is within the rules? last night I think the referees were sort of miffed by this tactic, but let it roll. can anyone explain this?
It's insane to me how it's just commonly accepted. You can't graze someone's thumb if they're shooting a three, but then it's a Roman gladiator contest as long as the dude with the ball has his back turned to the hoop.
Grazing someone's thumb? Heck, I'll take that over the 3 point shooter flopping after 1 square inch of their foot makes contact with 1 square inch of the defenders foot on landing. These 3 point shooters look like they are being hit with sniper fire. They need to clean this up. If you fall, it needs to be reviewed.
Grazing someone's thumb? Heck, I'll take that over the 3 point shooter flopping after 1 square inch of their foot makes contact with 1 square inch of the defenders foot on landing. These 3 point shooters look like they are being hit with sniper fire. They need to clean this up. If you fall, it needs to be reviewed.
nope...the chance you get to get in with a mediocre record is in your conference tourney. that is your shot...there has been one team seeded lower than 4 in the last 35 years to win the thing and you want to add more lousy teams to the mix? More opportunity to do what? Surely not win it all...NC State and a couple of other schools are the defining reason why you should expand the tourney. Keep the AQs as is but expanding allows you to select other teams from all of the conferences. I think people are nuts saying it would hurt the small guy. It actually would give them more opportunity.
And you would still get the Oaklands taking down the Kentuckys of the world. Basketball is different than football. You never know on a given day and who will be there. But I bet you could probably accurately pick the first three teams in the CFP right now.
He has a lot of talent. He has soft hands, can shoot well, and has great vision to pass well. He also has good footwork. But I wouldn't describe as light on his feet as his vertical seemed to about 6 inches at best.People like DJB for a lot of reasons. Most won’t admit but it’s unique seeing a “fat” guy do what he does. His personality and how he always has a smile on his face, makes him even more likable to ppl.
He’s really light on his feet and has incredible vision if you double. You hardly see bigs with his passing skills these days. Even if he didn’t have the great weight/power advantage, he has incredible footwork in the post.
Maybe I described that wrong as far a light on his feet… he clearly can’t jump. I meant his quickness for a guy so big. As you said he has no vertical and the reason he hardly ever gets blocked because besides power he has really good footwork. Some of the spin moves he made from the mid post and getting to the other side of the rim to use the rim to help vs shot blockers.He has a lot of talent. He has soft hands, can shoot well, and has great vision to pass well. He also has good footwork. But I wouldn't describe as light on his feet as his vertical seemed to about 6 inches at best.
More opportunity to see games where a lower seed upsets a better seed. More opportunity for a team like NC State or Pitt to hit on a run to a 16 or even better.nope...the chance you get to get in with a mediocre record is in your conference tourney. that is your shot...there has been one team seeded lower than 4 in the last 35 years to win the thing and you want to add more lousy teams to the mix? More opportunity to do what? Surely not win it all...
The hardest thing to referee in all of sports that I can recall is when Shaq would play Vlade Divac. Shaq would charge constantly, Vlade would flop constantly, and were in these constant no win situations.My Dad used to say this Shaq would foul with his ass. lol
He wasn’t wrong really
NC State and a couple of other schools are the defining reason why you should expand the tourney. Keep the AQs as is but expanding allows you to select other teams from all of the conferences. I think people are nuts saying it would hurt the small guy. It actually would give them more opportunity.
And you would still get the Oaklands taking down the Kentuckys of the world. Basketball is different than football. You never know on a given day and who will be there. But I bet you could probably accurately pick the first three teams in the CFP right now.
nope...the chance you get to get in with a mediocre record is in your conference tourney. that is your shot...there has been one team seeded lower than 4 in the last 35 years to win the thing and you want to add more lousy teams to the mix? More opportunity to do what? Surely not win it all...
YepI agree with those saying it's no different than what Shaq did, so it's been in basketball going back decades.
The secret to beating a guy like Burns is to run him out of the gym. I guarantee you he would come in last among all players in the NCAA tournament in a suicide race. The other team's 5 needs to be sprinting up and down the court every time.
NC State had really put themselves behind the 8 ball by the end of January as far as making the tournament. They are mostly juniors and seniors and I think they sort of mailed it in down the stretch, losing 7 of their last 9. Other than pride, and maybe Keatts job, there was really nothing to play for. The ACC tourney was their last lease on life.Zack Austin threw dahn a windmill. And Pitt led an overmatched NC State team by 17.
From that point on, they made that game somewhat respectable. From there, they won 5 ACC games, an NCAA game, and are looking good for the sweet 16.
Not sure I’ve seen anything quite like it.