NCAA tournament thread
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Good to see Cal & UK both advancing past the first round. Neither played tight for the first time in 5 years.
I would love to see Isaac McKneeley play at UK next year.
I would love to see Isaac McKneeley play at UK next year.
Dickerson and RMU gave us some pretty fine moments in the first round, even though they lost. But other than that, it was kinda boring.
Dickerson's a JR right? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............would be nice to see someone so ferocious on the offensive glass in blue and gold.
He would be a big-time get but probably priced himself out. Also, he's a JUCO transfer so he is either a FR or SO for eligibility purposes. If we can get him and Folguieras and are able to keep Lowe, we could be really good.
My guess is that Calhoun goes to WVU and then Utah State hires their 2nd straight Horizon League coach in Toole and those guys go with him.
There is almost no way that Toole is going to Utah State. A few weeks ago the Athletic had a column about mid and low major coaches who are the most likely to move up to a high level job. They named about 40 coaches altogether. And Toole didn't even make the list as an honorable mention.
Before this season they had played four years in the Horizon. Their combined record was 38-78. In his last ten seasons they've finished above .500 three times, and one of them was an 18-17 season.
If a program like Utah State brought in Andy Toole their fans would be hugely disappointed.
Blue and Gold are the official colors of the state of California (representing the sky and the gold rush).
Tradition, but not hard evidence, says that Pitt adopted Old Gold and Navy Blue in the 1800s, when it was then known as the Western University of Pennsylvania, because it was the prominent (although unofficial) colors associated with the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
From the 1890 edition of the University Courant (Vol. 4, No. 7):
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The time to poach Toole was a decade ago. His first 5 years in charge, he won 2 regular season titles, made 4 NEC finals, and won 1 NEC tournament championship. Since then, he's finished:
NEC
8th
7th
7th
4th
2nd (won tourney)
Horizon
12th
10th
6th
9th
1st (won tourney)
That's just two top three finishes over the span of a decade. While I would take him at Pitt over Capel, the above resume isn't going to be enough for a smart power program to bite.
True. But you have to take into account that he wasn't coaching in a conference known for top talent and schools. He also made improvement practically every year. I'd definitely take him over Capel, especially now with Capel floundering and on the verge of a sub-0.500 season next year unless he gets a huge influx of top level, 5*, first round draft picks from the portal.
Maybe not but I think he gets one of these high major jobs about to open. Keep in mind these schools can probably pay 2-3 of his players to come with. Someone like VCU, Colorado St, Grand Canyon, something like that
If he was coaching in a conference not known for top talent and schools why wouldn’t he and his teams dominate that conference if he was such a good coach?
Because he wasn't a great recruiter, at least for years. And who wanted to go to some small college in the outskirts of Pittsburgh that wasn't even a real university until recently? Other schools had better talent than RMU.
I remember the days when RMU was known as Robert Morris Junior College.
Obviously he wasn't getting highly touted recruits, but what he was good at—why he dominated the NEC during his first 5 years—was finding diamonds in the rough; players who weren't recruited heavily but had the talent. He became so good at it that his best players would get portaled even when it meant sitting out a year. That's part of why he's struggled for the last decade. His bread and butter was finding those under recruited players and developing them for 4 years. Ever since the landscape changed, a lot of what made him a great coach is now obsolete.
Haven't watched much of this tournament, but my goodness is the officiating in this Arkansas vs St. John's game absolutely awful.
Exactly. At one time a mid-major hiring him to move up the ladder would have made sense. Now? He's not going to be anyone's first choice, at least not in a top 12-ish conference. Could be be the guy that someone settles on when they can't get their top choices? Yeah, maybe. But he's not going to be the guy that, for example, an A10 school targets and goes after right from the start.
they made one shot outside the paint in the second half...I don't recall ever seeing anything like that...
That blew up one fourth of my FF. I guess all the $ spent by the Johnnie's this year went for naught. Pretty sure the Hogs spend a lot of coin on their players, too
Not a shocker St John’s lost but I didn’t think this Arkansas team would be the one to do it.
St John’s has almost every quality you want in a team. Ferocious on defense, lengthy, tenacious, crashes the offensive boards and is extremely well coached. They do have one fatal flaw that anyone that watched them is well aware of, they just can’t shoot for shit. For the season they shot the exact same percentage (45.1) as Pitt, which obviously isn’t very good. For a team that was a champion of a major conference that came into this tournament with only 4 losses it’s almost unbelievable.
Being the coach he is I guarantee Pitino brings in some shooters from the portal next season.
St John’s has almost every quality you want in a team. Ferocious on defense, lengthy, tenacious, crashes the offensive boards and is extremely well coached. They do have one fatal flaw that anyone that watched them is well aware of, they just can’t shoot for shit. For the season they shot the exact same percentage (45.1) as Pitt, which obviously isn’t very good. For a team that was a champion of a major conference that came into this tournament with only 4 losses it’s almost unbelievable.
Being the coach he is I guarantee Pitino brings in some shooters from the portal next season.
RMU has no business winning the Horizon based on their budget though, so it's a pretty impressive resume for what it is.
St. John's just can't shoot. Can't go very far in the tournament if you can't shoot.
Kudos to them for getting a 2 seed. The Big East really wasn't very good this year.
Kudos to them for getting a 2 seed. The Big East really wasn't very good this year.
I didn't follow them this season other than seeing them win the Big East. But yes, their shooting was atrocious. Arkansas looks very tough right now
I caught a game or two of theirs this past season and came away largely unimpressed. I'm sure some of it was coincidence, as everyone has down game when you play 30+. But I think the Big East was also really weak this season. Like, not a whole lot better than the ACC.
He will be offered a job in a Top 12 conference. The question will be whether or not he takes it.
Any good games?
I am getting old and didn't care t his year.
Pitt blew and the players get paid now.
Wish RMU would have won.
I am getting old and didn't care t his year.
Pitt blew and the players get paid now.
Wish RMU would have won.
I've watched a bunch and rather inconsistent with some allowing mauling and others ticky tack and a couple changing midgame.
This has been the most boring tourney in my lifetime. No madness. No one shining moment. Nothing. Nothing exciting really.
I haven't watched much of it - largely because of my disappointment with Pitt. But the first two rounds have mostly been about huge upsets and, go figure, there seems to be less of them this year with the better mid-major players being picked off by the bigger schools annually.
The biggest upset thus far has been the $6M team beating St. John's in the Godfather 4: Pitino vs Calipari.
After the way the first game of the first four ended, it was like wow, maybe this is going to be the tournament of madness.
But it's mostly been downhill since game one ended.
It was really good. But again.....UConn hit a 3 at the buzzer.................but....it was a 2-possession game.
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