Did that final three have an impact on some bets? [note, I choose not to wager on sports, but am not averse to it]
NCAA tournament thread
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You mean when Queen tucked the ball and put his head down like he was running for the pylon before taking his shot?
I really like his game, but that has to be called.
Also interesting he made it over Ethan Morton.
He literally tucked the ball under his arm and ran for 2 steps before taking another step and pulling up for what was definitely an impressive shot. It's worthy of mention because there's no way he can get off a shot without the extra step.
Yes, the refs botched a number of other calls. That doesn't mean they didn't botch this one as well.
And I couldn't care less who won this game, because I feel like both the Fat 10 and MWC get way too much credit every year on Selection Sunday and have no interest in either of these teams.
Hate to admit it, but the Big 10 has also improved along with the SEC (obviously not to the same extent) in the NIL era. They just have money.
2025: eight bids, 12-4 record
2024: six bids, 10-6 record
2023: eight bids, 6-8 record
On the Mountain West, I agree. They always get these marginal teams in who can't win. Zero sweet 16 teams again.
Michigan is the only fat 10 team that beat a single digit seed this year, and they did it once.
If any of them make it through to the elite 8, I expect it to be MSU.
Seems like you see this "cradle" move a lot anymore, in both NCAA and NBA. Gene Sterratore seemed to think it wasn't travelling the way they are interpreting the rules these days.
right foot was already touching AS the dribble ended so that step is number "0" and the step 1 and 2 happen after that
ie. if he's standing still on 1 foot and starts from that point toward the basket he can take 2 steps from that standing foot point
unless there's some video I'm missing, that is what objectively happens
maybe you are arguing the dribble ended sooner as your justification for the zero step being counted as step #1
so when is a dribble ended? when the ball is secured toward taking the shot
Not sure if it was in this thread or another where I said that announcer said that Ethan Morton was one of the best defenders in the country. Well, that was him on Queen from MD. Pretty good defensive effort and Queen probably traveled.
Other local guys: Forgot North Hills's Royce Parham played for Marquette. He gets regular minutes there but we didn't recruit him hard.
Other local guys: Forgot North Hills's Royce Parham played for Marquette. He gets regular minutes there but we didn't recruit him hard.
It's coaching or having the money to get the best coaches. Not necessarily player spending.
or he didn't travel and Queen is going to be in the NBA next year at abut 30M for 4 years
Gene Steratore also claimed he might not have controlled possession of the ball when he had it under his arm and that's why it wasn't a travel, which seems like nonsense to me and is him basically making excuses for the refs calling the game. Other refs said it was a clear travel, which is the norm for a subjective call that is a clear violation of the written rule but happens numerous times a game anyway.
I was watching it live and thought it looked pretty egregious then and replays didn't change my opinion. I'm mostly amused by the clowns online (not saying anyone here is one of them to be clear) who are arguing that there was a "gather step" (which is not a thing under NCAA rules), that this shouldn't be called because other equally or more obvious travels weren't called at some point in the past, or that this shouldn't be called because of other missed calls in this or other games. No one is saying it wasn't a travel under the letter of the law, other than possibly Steratore and I didn't see anyone else making his very odd (to me) claim.
I'm not some purist who wants the game slowed down or someone who wants to try to suppress scoring, but if you tuck the ball under your arm, take 2 steps to run past the defender, then take another step to get off a shot, you probably should be called for a violation IMO. He was called for traveling earlier apparently, which I'd love to compare to this play but don't care enough to rewatch the entire game to find it.
The only impact it had ultimately is that Florida will be putting a beat down on UMD instead of CSU later this week, so whatever.
Even if he was called for traveling, Queen would be in the NBA making bank. I didn't watch many UMD games this year, but he jumped off the screen when I did, including last night.
And when he's in the NBA, he can probably take another step there and get away with it if he wants!
I had a Final 4 of: Auburn, St. Johns (with Florida losing to UConn in that bracket), Houston, and Duke.
I picked Auburn/Duke in the final, so I'll stick with it.
Still alive in this contest. If I'm charting this correctly (and projecting Duke as winning it all), and factoring in who I've already used, looks like I have to pick between Tenn and Houston for the Elite Eight. Thoughts?
Our of curiosity, how does this work when it gets down to a few teams left? If you've used all the final 4 teams previously, are you just eliminated by default?
I'd go with Houston between those 2 for what it's worth.
Yes. Works like the football ones, with the twist that the field gets smaller and the choices get fewer. However, in a smaller pool you may not need to get all the way to the Tourney winner. This was a big one on Draftkings, 9,000+ to start, 3,000+ still alive ($160k in the prize pool). So, presumably have to make it all the way. On the left side of the bracket, I have already used Florida, Texas Tech and MSU. I need Auburn to win and give me an option on that side in the Final Four. If I pick the winner of Tenn-Houston, I could even use Alabama should they upset Duke.
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