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I know this is weird stuff from me, but it’s a cool thing to see an American on the field in a world championship match, and giving instruction to the worlds best player.

 
He also plays in Switzerland, and it gets pretty cold in Switzerland. I mean maybe not Minnesota cold, but he'd have actually been someone used to playing in weather like that.
Right now he’s in form, Brooks is in form, Pulisic looks like he’s rounding into form, and McKennie is better than in form. Reyna will hopefully be back but he missed another match today to illness. Bottom line is Berhalter better not screw this up next month.
 
Right now he’s in form, Brooks is in form, Pulisic looks like he’s rounding into form, and McKennie is better than in form. Reyna will hopefully be back but he missed another match today to illness. Bottom line is Berhalter better not screw this up next month.
oh don’t you worry FK. Zardes will be there and start 1 game
 
oh don’t you worry FK. Zardes will be there and start 1 game
I really haven’t followed the USMNT like others through the years so admittedly I don’t know about Zardes intimately. So I figured he played in Toronto or was used to playing in the cold elements. And I’ve never followed the MLS although would love a reason to. So I looked him up and see he’s a Southern California kid who grew up in the Galaxy’s academy. Lol.
 
I really haven’t followed the USMNT like others through the years so admittedly I don’t know about Zardes intimately. So I figured he played in Toronto or was used to playing in the cold elements. And I’ve never followed the MLS although would love a reason to. So I looked him up and see he’s a Southern California kid who grew up in the Galaxy’s academy. Lol.

It has more to do with him being a guy who just scores goals....though as others have pointed out, its usually against MLS or low-level international teams. To be fair though, even the worst MLS team would be no worse than 4th if they were a CONCACAF nation.

Before Zardes, Edson Buddle and Eddie Johnson filled this role. And then it was Wondo. This is what happens when you don't have a really good striker.
 
To be fair though, even the worst MLS team would be no worse than 4th if they were a CONCACAF nation.


Wait, are you trying to tell us that you think that if FC Cincinnati was a CONCACAF country they would be no worse than 4th in the World Cup qualifying table?

Good lord, you can't really think that, can you?
 
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Wait, are you trying to tell us that you think that if FC Cincinnati was a CONCACAF country they would be no worse than 4th in the World Cup qualifying table?

Good lord, you can't really think that, can you?
the chunks of stupidity produced never stop
 
the chunks of stupidity produced never stop
Lol. Why does every 8/10 SMF posts get shot down?

I do have to wonder though about some clubs vs international teams. There is something to be said for training and playing together year round.
 
I do have to wonder though about some clubs vs international teams. There is something to be said for training and playing together year round.


There is no doubt that the best club teams are better than the best international teams. But a team that won all of four games in MLS last year is not only not one of the best club teams in the world, they aren't even close to it.
 
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Wait, are you trying to tell us that you think that if FC Cincinnati was a CONCACAF country they would be no worse than 4th in the World Cup qualifying table?

Good lord, you can't really think that, can you?
100%. Most of the Panamanian players could not make an MLS team. Lets review where the Panama field players play:

Spanish 2nd Division: 4
MLS: 2
Panama: 5
Belgium: 1
Slovakia: 2
Iraq: 1
Austria: 1 (currently on loan to a bad Bundesliga team)
Venezuela: 1
Ecuador: 2
Peru: 3
Costa Rica: 1
Bolivia: 1

That team would finish last in a full season of MLS. Many of those players would not make an MLS team and the ones that could would be marginal players. But, but its a national team so they must be better than FC Cincinnati because it sounds like they are. Nope. They are not.
 
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100%. Most of the Panamanian players could not make an MLS team. Lets review where the Panama field players play:

Spanish 2nd Division: 4
MLS: 2
Panama: 5
Belgium: 1
Slovakia: 2
Iraq: 1
Austria: 1 (currently on loan to a bad Bundesliga team)
Venezuela: 1
Ecuador: 2
Peru: 3
Costa Rica: 1
Bolivia: 1

That team would finish last in a full season of MLS. Many of those players would not make an MLS team and the ones that could would be marginal players. But, but its a national team so they must be better than FC Cincinnati because it sounds like they are. Nope. They are not.


That's why the US team made up of all players playing at the MLS level or higher, in some cases much higher, beat Panama 12-0 the last time they played, and the Mexico team that is made up of all players playing at the MLS level or higher beat them 16-1.

Does FC Cincinnati have even one player good enough to play for their national team? Certainly none of their American players are anywhere close to playing for the US.
 
This one is a real shame. RB Salzburg lead throughout, and Munich scored in the 90th minute to tie. That’s too bad. They had a chance to go up 2-0 but a Munich defender got a foot out to stop a shot going into an open net. Anyway Aaronson is really impressing.
 
This one is a real shame. RB Salzburg lead throughout, and Munich scored in the 90th minute to tie. That’s too bad. They had a chance to go up 2-0 but a Munich defender got a foot out to stop a shot going into an open net. Anyway Aaronson is really impressing.
He will not be in Salzburg for much longer. Jason Davies was reporting in the last few weeks EPL clubs are monitoring him. This kid just never stops. He seems very durable with an extremely non stop motor.
 
That's why the US team made up of all players playing at the MLS level or higher, in some cases much higher, beat Panama 12-0 the last time they played, and the Mexico team that is made up of all players playing at the MLS level or higher beat them 16-1.

Does FC Cincinnati have even one player good enough to play for their national team? Certainly none of their American players are anywhere close to playing for the US.
The USMNT would be just above the relegation zone in the EPL. Panama would be a 3rd division team. MLS teams are lower English 2nd division in my opinion. Lower EPL teams can lose to 3rd division teams away from home, especially when playing the reserves like Berhalter did.

2 of FC Cincinnati's DP's are from Brazil and Argentina so they obviously cant make those national teams but I would guess would be the best players on Panama
 
He will not be in Salzburg for much longer. Jason Davies was reporting in the last few weeks EPL clubs are monitoring him. This kid just never stops. He seems very durable with an extremely non stop motor.


Leeds made several offers for him in January, I think the last was the equivalent of around $28 million, but Salzburg wouldn't take any of them because they think they have a real chance to beat Bayern and they didn't want to break up their team.
 
Leeds made several offers for him in January, I think the last was the equivalent of around $28 million, but Salzburg wouldn't take any of them because they think they have a real chance to beat Bayern and they didn't want to break up their team.
That’s too bad. I watched pieces of that match yesterday and they had a chance to go up 2-0. Aaronson had a great shot and almost score earlier in the game too. I was impressed with their organization in the back. Munich kept coming and coming, and RS never panicked and made defending look simple. But they did give up the goal late, and it’s a tough task now to go back to Munich and get a win.
 
That’s too bad. I watched pieces of that match yesterday and they had a chance to go up 2-0. Aaronson had a great shot and almost score earlier in the game too. I was impressed with their organization in the back. Munich kept coming and coming, and RS never panicked and made defending look simple. But they did give up the goal late, and it’s a tough task now to go back to Munich and get a win.


Yeah, that late goal was a back breaker. Going into the second leg needing only a draw or maybe a one goal loss to advance would have put them in a pretty good spot.
 
Leeds made several offers for him in January, I think the last was the equivalent of around $28 million, but Salzburg wouldn't take any of them because they think they have a real chance to beat Bayern and they didn't want to break up their team.
Leeds would be a decent fit for Aaronson. Bielsma is high tempo all 90 minutes, however Leeds very well could get relegated. I also think he could thrive at City with Pep. Pep likes the high press and Aaronson with that motor could be very effective.
 
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Leeds would be a decent fit for Aaronson. Bielsma is high tempo all 90 minutes, however Leeds very well could get relegated. I also think he could thrive at City with Pep. Pep likes the high press and Aaronson with that motor could be very effective.
Yeah but I don’t want him at City rotting on the bench. I’ll tell you where I’d like to see him and that’s Everton. Lampard loves him a 4-3-3 and we know Berhalter is married to that formation. And if Tuchel doesn’t give Pulisic a run of games before the years out, I’d love to see Pulisic reunited with my man Frank.
 
Looks like CBS is putting some knockout round games on their over-the-air station. PSG/RM was on KDKA. Unbelievable 93rd minute game winner by Mbappe.
 
Wait it was on cbs sports?


No, it was actually on CBS. Channel 2, for us Pittsburghers. They showed a game on both Tuesday and Wednesday, PSG - Real on Tuesday, Inter - Liverpool on Wednesday. I watched the second halfs of both when I got home from work.

Next week they are showing Chelsea - Lille on Tuesday and Atletico - Man U on Wednesday.
 
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BTW, in a Europa League oddity, Leipzig started Tyler Adams and played him 45 minutes on Thursday as a center back.

I have to admit, I wouldn't have seen that coming.

Also, Gio Reyna came on at the half and played 45 minutes for Dortmund in the game they didn't care about, er, I mean in their loss to Rangers on Thursday.
 
No, it was actually on CBS. Channel 2, for us Pittsburghers. They showed a game on both Tuesday and Wednesday, PSG - Real on Tuesday, Inter - Liverpool on Wednesday. I watched the second halfs of both when I got home from work.

Next week they are showing Chelsea - Lille on Tuesday and Atletico - Man U on Wednesday.

That would have to be the first time that club football was shown on a weekday on an over-the-air station in the US. Kinda cool but CBS's coverage of Champions League is all over the place. Some games are stream only, some on CBSSN, and now on old-school CBS.
 
That would have to be the first time that club football was shown on a weekday on an over-the-air station in the US. Kinda cool but CBS's coverage of Champions League is all over the place. Some games are stream only, some on CBSSN, and now on old-school CBS.


I think the original plan was that only the final was going to be over the air, there were going to be a few games on CBSSN, and most of the games were going to be streaming only. I wonder what happened to change their minds?
 
HUGE Josh Sargent assist vs Liverpool today. Incredible talent exhibited here. ;).

 
I think the original plan was that only the final was going to be over the air, there were going to be a few games on CBSSN, and most of the games were going to be streaming only. I wonder what happened to change their minds?

This?


2nd largest Round of 16 in American TV (English-speaking) history. I know they are trying to sell Paramount+ subscriptions and I think that's a good plan for the early round which are more niche/diehard-ish. But for the knockout stages, those appeal to the masses, but not folks who are going to go through the trouble of signing up for Paramount+, downloading the app, etc but will watch in droves if you put it on CBS.
 
HUGE Josh Sargent assist vs Liverpool today. Incredible talent exhibited here. ;).

I really think Norwich was a poor destination for Josh. They were always going to struggle to score and they have. Add to that, Josh needing a boost in confidence and that's a poor combo. Not saying all relegation teams would be a bad fit, Newcastle or Watford woulda been a little better. They can actually score a bit.

Regardless, Norwich were in good form but then had to play Man City and Liverpool back 2 back and has them back at 18
 
This?


2nd largest Round of 16 in American TV (English-speaking) history. I know they are trying to sell Paramount+ subscriptions and I think that's a good plan for the early round which are more niche/diehard-ish. But for the knockout stages, those appeal to the masses, but not folks who are going to go through the trouble of signing up for Paramount+, downloading the app, etc but will watch in droves if you put it on CBS.


Two things. First of all, they didn't know that that would happen before they put the game on over the air. Secondly, if the goal is selling Paramount+ subscriptions (and I agree, that is what the goal is) then ending up moving the best programming from Paramount+ to over the air after you've told everyone that they are going to need Paramount+ to watch the games is a really good way to piss off the people who are paying you the money. And pissing off the people who are paying you money is generally not a good idea.
 
And now for some bad USMNT news. Gio Reyna started today for the first time since his injury last September. He made it 28 minutes before they had to take him off injured again.
 
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Two things. First of all, they didn't know that that would happen before they put the game on over the air. Secondly, if the goal is selling Paramount+ subscriptions (and I agree, that is what the goal is) then ending up moving the best programming from Paramount+ to over the air after you've told everyone that they are going to need Paramount+ to watch the games is a really good way to piss off the people who are paying you the money. And pissing off the people who are paying you money is generally not a good idea.

Did they ever say EVERY match will be on Paramount+ though?

I mean there's 8 Round of 16 matchups. 2 of the "mainstream" matchups being on your grand dad's CBS and 6 being on Paramount+ seems like really good business without pissing off that many people. Then they can do 2 Quarterfinals on CBS and 2 on Paramount+. Semis and Finals can be just Paramount+. So diehard soccer fans will know they need Paramount+ from the playoff rounds to group stage all the way through the quarterfinals. Someone like me, who is more of a mainstream soccer fan will never buy a Paramount+ subscription for early rounds but will watch later CBS coverage. Best of both worlds for them
 
Watching the She Believes Cup with my daughter. I’ve seen something that I have never seen before. A first half natural hat trick. It’s 3-0 at the half, and all three goals were own goals by the same player for New Zealand.

when I played baseball at Pitt, I struck out (as a lead off hitter) 4 times in one game. Finally someone out did me.
 
Did they ever say EVERY match will be on Paramount+ though?

I mean there's 8 Round of 16 matchups. 2 of the "mainstream" matchups being on your grand dad's CBS and 6 being on Paramount+ seems like really good business without pissing off that many people. Then they can do 2 Quarterfinals on CBS and 2 on Paramount+. Semis and Finals can be just Paramount+. So diehard soccer fans will know they need Paramount+ from the playoff rounds to group stage all the way through the quarterfinals. Someone like me, who is more of a mainstream soccer fan will never buy a Paramount+ subscription for early rounds but will watch later CBS coverage. Best of both worlds for them


Well there are 16 round of 16 matchups, and of the first eight there are going to be four of them on CBS. One would assume that they are planning to do the same thing in the next cycle of games, so it will be eight out of 16 games. And of course those eight games will be the best eight games, the eight games that most people are interested in. So yeah, if I bought Paramount+ because they were selling it as the place to watch the Champions League games and they ended up putting all the best games in the knockout rounds on free TV I'd be pissed.

I get that you aren't, because you don't pay for Paramount+ (I don't either). But knowing the sorts of things that you complain about I can give a 100% guarantee that if you bought it specifically because they said that was what you had to do to watch the Champions League that you'd be pissed off about it.
 
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