he was the only reason Capel won any games here and I think that's going to become increasingly evident.
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he was the only reason Capel won any games here and I think that's going to become increasingly evident.
Because when he was good, he was really good. The kid has a lot of ability but his decision making is as bad as I've ever seen. When he plays within himself, he helps the team a great deal. Its a ashame he didn't improve on that in 3 years.
- Stallings was not a good coach
- Capel is proving he is not a good coach. there is a reason he didnt get a sniff at the Duke job
- Capel brought in a lot of suspect city type players, drive slashers, not your shooters/defenders. You have to have a mix. Dixon won with a lot of these type of players but at least he got them to buy into playing defense. Capel doesn't know defense
- We are a mid level MAC team talent wise at this point.
- Capel is proving he is not a good coach. there is a reason he didnt get a sniff at the Duke job
- Capel brought in a lot of suspect city type players, drive slashers, not your shooters/defenders. You have to have a mix. Dixon won with a lot of these type of players but at least he got them to buy into playing defense. Capel doesn't know defense
- We are a mid level MAC team talent wise at this point.
Good assessment.
After what I saw against
The Citadel, I'd say at this
point we're barely a mid
level MAC team. If we beat
UNC Wilmington and Towson
I would say, yes.
I won't be surprised at any
result against these two
teams. I was posting on here
BEFORE, we lost the three
guards that we were a team
of average D1 players.
The only above average IMO
were Hugley, and Femi. I
gave Jeffers a "latent talent"
assessment.
With all that said, I feel today
we're barely mid level MAC.
I do believe we will win a few
of these OOC games. I hope
we start tonight.
The biggest problem I see with him is he's not a good enough coach to win at a place that's never going to have a bunch of high level talent on a roster at the same time. From what I have seen so far he seems like a "roll out the basketballs" kind of coach that tries to play the free flowing motion offense type game without the personnel necessary to beat teams that do the same thing but with much better players, or teams that have similar or slighty better players, but a much more structured offense and defense.
I don't think he's a bad guy but I think I've seen enough. Next man up.
Why is that? I mean if it was one or two, fine, but he's had twice that at least, and these guys where playing significant minutes for an ACC team and still walked away.
#11 wasn’t going to stop either defensively and he couldn’t score as well . Was a better rebounder than Artis not any better than Young . What he does better is that he has a feel for the game that can’t be taught .
Young was put into defending the post not the 4 as he should’ve been . Young was a very effective shot blocker .
Ps …Not taking anything away from JC had he played with anyone else who could rebound his numbers would’ve suffered .
if he was manhandled by the opposition on the boards, I'd agree, but he routinely rebounded the ball vs ACC centers. He just snagged double digit bounds in his first G league game the other night.
He has that intangible instinct to be where the ball is . At his time at Pitt he was the man on the boards no Blair no Adams just Brown !
Had he stayed another yr with Big John now in the lineup it would be interesting to see how it would have affected his numbers .
I'd bet any amount of money he'd average over 10 rebounds this year with John at the 5
They were certainly 2 of the 3 most selfish and “me-first” players I can remember at Pitt. X would be the 3rd.
Part of the problem was/is the lack of offensive structure we had in those last few Dixon years and since. The high efficiency inside-out system we ran in the Howland/Dixon heyday didn’t allow for selfish play.
There hasn’t been in years, starting with Dixon’s philosophical shift after joining the ACC. I’m not a big fan of the NBA-type 4 out motion offense, unless you have Duke or Kentucky players. I understand the problem though, the best players want to play in a free flowing offensive system without a lot of defensive responsibilities; that’s all they do on the AAU circuit.
In all fairness, this is not how it works of course. From JC's perspective he took a chance with a lowly program , has worked extremely hard, and will continue to do so for the length of his contract. The people who hired him should have been explicit on exactly how many wins were necessary, say after 4 years for him to be retained but of course nobody that does the hiring has the foresight, knowledge, concern to be up front about it, as always it is a love-fest at the beginning, lots of back slapping about how the school out smarted everyone and hired THE GUY, but has a messy, costly ending, like a bad marriage..... and the children (fans in this case) pay the price in the end.
That might not be to far fetched anymore. I think stallings had a plan he just couldn’t get any big guys at all. Capel I think is just trying to get anyone with talent and he is not doing a very good job. In todays game there are many shooters out there. You might not get a ton else but people can shoot he seems to lack the interest that made Pitt great. Shooting is an important part of the game. Maybe Heather can reinforce that to Capel.
that was always the thing said about Foge and also Chryst....such a nice guy! I remember Paterno made a big fuss when Foge was fired, said he couldn't believe we would do that. Maybe because Paterno realized with Foge in charge it was an easy W.
And nice guy Chryst handled his departure worse than Graham and was the picture of mediocrity here
Nice guys finish last is the old saying...
Stallings didn't get a fair shake at Pitt. The environment was toxic from day one. It was obvious when guys started to trickle out last year that this year could easily be another trainwreck. It's very difficult to retool the entire roster in one year. It's basically a crap shoot. Throw in a couple of unexpected injuries or departures, and it goes from bad to embarrassing.
Ironically, the same thing happened with Bryce Drew at Vanderbilt. I think Drew gets another shot at a big time program. He showed he could sign top talent at Vandy & his track record includes a shit-load of winning everywhere except those last 2 years in Music City.
