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Amazing the cancer in the club house is big Ben, a good old white boy. AB is a strong independent Black brother. The Pgh media takes its cue to beat down the brother. Black GOATs ( Greatest of all time) matter
AB is the epitome of the player that would rather play well and lose than play bad and win. I don't necessarily disagree with you about Ben being a cancer in the locker room but AB is one too.

I enjoy the race baiting though, I hope this escalates on here and it gets ugly. "black brother?" isn't that.. meh, forget it.. carry on..
 
Amazing the cancer in the club house is big Ben, a good old white boy. AB is a strong independent Black brother. The Pgh media takes its cue to beat down the brother. Black GOATs ( Greatest of all time) matter
Fathead Ben, the Teflon man...he’s the biggest baby with the biggest ego on the team.
 
Yea, because of his name... I don’t have to revise anything and I am very familiar with that firm.
I don't think he's dumb but he's no Dan Rooney.. Art sr won money at the track and bought a team at the right time, Dan BUILT the steelers. The franchise is what it is because of Dan, not Art sr. this guy now, he is the apple falling far away from the family tree..
 
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do you really think AB will accept responsibility for letting his teammates down and apologize? What are the odds this happens? Yes, in a perfect world, this is what the steelers need to happen. AB tucks his tail between his legs, apologizes, sees the error of his ways and becomes focused on his playing career and forgets everything else.. This is something that will not happen, ever.

freakin guy is online, mocking his coach during tomlin's press conference. openly mocking him. you think he's ready to apologize?

And what is going on with Harrison? Why does he hate the steelers so much? He owes this franchise his life.. Rooney stuck up for him after he beat up a woman, and he craps on the steeler nation any chance he gets..Why? Cause Tomlin didn't play him last year?
There’s really no excuse for Harrison’s behavior .

If AB is going to play Fb next yr odds are it’s with the Steelers and no matter what kind of jerk he is there’s some pretty ruff guys in that locker room he has to face . He let them down by being a big baby and he has to accept responsibility and apologize or his life will hell . Bell was a money issue which the players all can appreciate because after this is a business . There is a difference and if somehow he’d end up in Steeler locker room next yr he’d be accepted a lot faster than AB right now .
 
Amazing the cancer in the club house is big Ben, a good old white boy. AB is a strong independent Black man. The Pgh media takes its cue to beat down the brother. Black GOATs ( Greatest of all time) matter
AB is a guy who lets his teammates down and throws furniture out of a high rise , black , white , yellow who cares . The man has issues and it has nothing to do with him being black . He let his teammates down and guess what there’s a lot of “strong independent Black men” playing Fb for the Steelers . You play for the men in the locker room first !
 
There’s really no excuse for Harrison’s behavior .

If AB is going to play Fb next yr odds are it’s with the Steelers and no matter what kind of jerk he is there’s some pretty ruff guys in that locker room he has to face . He let them down by being a big baby and he has to accept responsibility and apologize or his life will hell . Bell was a money issue which the players all can appreciate because after this is a business . There is a difference and if somehow he’d end up in Steeler locker room next yr he’d be accepted a lot faster than AB right now .
do we have that guy in the locker room though? Do we have that Farrior type, that Aaron SMith, who would grab AB by the throat and beat the hell out of him (Away from the cameras). I don't think so. that's the problem. back not too long ago, you had actual leadership in the locker room. Now, we have Ben, AB, guys like Pouncey who is going into his late 20's and still gets arrested every year on his birthday..

Not exactly strong leadership skills..
 
AB is mentally, well lets just say, challenged. immature is one thing, he's far beyond that. he needs a baby sitter. someone literally on the steelers payroll to live with him, take care of him, make decisions for him.

Like the elderly person that has someone come over for a few hours and bathe and feed them and take them to the store, AB needs someone like that..
 
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do we have that guy in the locker room though? Do we have that Farrior type, that Aaron SMith, who would grab AB by the throat and beat the hell out of him (Away from the cameras). I don't think so. that's the problem. back not too long ago, you had actual leadership in the locker room. Now, we have Ben, AB, guys like Pouncey who is going into his late 20's and still gets arrested every year on his birthday..

Not exactly strong leadership skills..
My guess is we’ll find out !
 
Amazing the cancer in the club house is big Ben, a good old white boy. AB is a strong independent Black man. The Pgh media takes its cue to beat down the brother. Black GOATs ( Greatest of all time) matter

Not saying Ben is innocent but what has he done that comes remotely close to what AB has done this year and last. Another example of trying to inject race where there is no racial issue. This is about proper and improper behavior
 
AB is mentally, well lets just say, challenged. immature is one thing, he's far beyond that. he needs a baby sitter. someone literally on the steelers payroll to live with him, take care of him, make decisions for him.

Like the elderly person that has someone come over for a few hours and bathe and feed them and take them to the store, AB needs someone like that..
He’d probably throw that person out the window !
 
Not saying Ben is innocent but what has he done that comes remotely close to what AB has done this year and last. Another example of trying to inject race where there is no racial issue. This is about proper and improper behavior
Ben does most of his damage behind the scenes, particularly the way he undermines offensive coaches to get his way. He’s a sneak. His criticizing Brown for the pattern he ran on his dumb interception in the end zone in the Denver game is classic Fathead....
 
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AB is mentally, well lets just say, challenged. immature is one thing, he's far beyond that. he needs a baby sitter. someone literally on the steelers payroll to live with him, take care of him, make decisions for him.

Like the elderly person that has someone come over for a few hours and bathe and feed them and take them to the store, AB needs someone like that..

No question... I said this to my buddy but there is clearly a mental issue here with AB. I don't know if he has CTE already or what the deal is but he is absolutely a lunatic mentally.
 
Ben does most of his damage behind the scenes, particularly the way he undermines offensive coaches to get his way. He’s a sneak. His criticizing Brown for the pattern he ran on his dumb interception in the end zone in the Denver game is classic Fathead....

I dont necessarily disagree. IMO Ben is not a standup guy and has deflected blame the last year. The 16 picks this year hurt the team as much as any fumble or missed FG. His reaction to drafting Rudolph is childish as well. However hes not been bat shit crazy like AB.

Tomlin has his hands full. Of course he probably helped create this by not putting his foot down earlier.
 
No question... I said this to my buddy but there is clearly a mental issue here with AB. I don't know if he has CTE already or what the deal is but he is absolutely a lunatic mentally.
His mental instability will be his downfall. He’s an expensive foreign sports car with aging parts. You spent a lot of money on it already and you know you can’t fix it so it’s not worth investing too much into because you know you only have it for another year or two. It’s value decreases by the day so try to get a year or two out of it and junk it.
 
Amazing the cancer in the club house is big Ben, a good old white boy. AB is a strong independent Black man. The Pgh media takes its cue to beat down the brother. Black GOATs ( Greatest of all time) matter

OK, so why is Ochocuatro showing such disrespect to his black head coach?
 
Brown can continue to cause mayhem in the locker room. That is his leverage. He can make life a living hell for Tomlin and Roethlisberger.
A franchise with integrity wouldn't let him into that locker room. Great talent...but bad person. Trade him for a couple draft picks.
 
OK, so why is Ochocuatro showing such disrespect to his black head coach?
Tomlin is a player's coach but the players don't like him. If you are going to be hated by the players, at least be an authoritarian who gets respect.. Tomlin is the first player's coach to be disliked by the players. a weird phenomenon.
 
AB cries when other players ON HIS OWN TEAM get any praise. guy throws tantrums like a child when Ju Ju outperforms him. like I said, no better example ever of a player who would rather play well and lose than play bad and win..
 
His fellow players don't like him either and they voted JuJu team MVP. Apparently that was too much for AB's feeble mind to handle.

The franchise QB ALWAYS trumps the franchise WR. It doesn't matter if the QB is white, black, or purple. The franchise QB trumps the assistant coaches and sometimes the head coach. That's they way it is. I guess AB hasn't figured that one out either.

That franchise QB got him paid.
 
Amazing the cancer in the club house is big Ben, a good old white boy. AB is a strong independent Black man. The Pgh media takes its cue to beat down the brother. Black GOATs ( Greatest of all time) matter
The Pittsburgh media, outside of Madden and Cook have been critical of Ben for years. He’s a jerk, everyone knows it, and probably was a spark that lit AB’s fire.

But give me a break. Both Ben and AB got passed over for team MVP. Only AB crossed the line since. He walked out on his team 3 times this year alone.

Bringing race into it is stupid. The media you’re questioning has been defending Tomlin for 10 years.
 
Amazing the cancer in the club house is big Ben, a good old white boy. AB is a strong independent Black man. The Pgh media takes its cue to beat down the brother. Black GOATs ( Greatest of all time) matter

I don’t think it is a black and white issue, but I do agree with you about Ben

Not exonerating Brown, but Roethlisberger and Tomlin are part of the problem as well and have been for years... In the case of Tomlin, it’s not his game coaching I’m referring to. His relationship with Roethlisberger is the problem. That is part of Brown’s beef. Some points on the subject:
  1. Roethlisberger is Tomlin’s boy. He can do no wrong. Whatever Big Ben wants, he gets. Whether that’s drafting a player, or firing a coach, or signing a free agent.
  2. Cowher was a players coach, with no favoritism. He let Joey Porter tear Big Ben a new one in front of his teammates in the locker room for his lack of leadership. Cowher did not interfere. It was a message to Ben and everyone else that they were a team.
  3. It didn’t do any good. Roethlisberger lacks real leadership in times of strife and chaos. They only ones that have been leaders recently are DeCastro and Heyward.
  4. Roethlisberger is every bit a prima donna as Brown. He shows up a couple of days for off season workouts and then takes the rest of the time off to go on a family vacation. When Brown saw that, he followed suit... He couldn’t have scheduled it around the workouts???
  5. Roethlisberger’s lack of leadership showed up again when he calls players out on the radio and then refuses to say the Brown is the number one receiver on the team. He feels he’s “earned” the right to call out players. Yes, but not on the radio! Do it in the locker room in front of the player. You’ll get more respect.
 
There’s really no excuse for Harrison’s behavior .

If AB is going to play Fb next yr odds are it’s with the Steelers and no matter what kind of jerk he is there’s some pretty ruff guys in that locker room he has to face . He let them down by being a big baby and he has to accept responsibility and apologize or his life will hell . Bell was a money issue which the players all can appreciate because after this is a business . There is a difference and if somehow he’d end up in Steeler locker room next yr he’d be accepted a lot faster than AB right now .
It'll go exactly that way. If indeed serious of wanting a trade, he'll be told privately that no way they'll swallow 21M in cap hit. So he'll be advised to issue a statement of contriteness, and it will go away for 8 months.

However I wonder if anyone noticed that the guy was just featured on some singing reality show. I don't watch such stuff. I don't know if it's something that was a one shot thing or he'll be on regularly. But all this drama seems somewhat calculated to coincide with that. Remember, it's all show biz.
 
However I wonder if anyone noticed that the guy was just featured on some singing reality show. I don't watch such stuff. I don't know if it's something that was a one shot thing or he'll be on regularly. But all this drama seems somewhat calculated to coincide with that. Remember, it's all show biz.

Wasn't it "Dancing with the Stars"? As the saying goes, "Don't quit your day job".
 
Love the report from ESPN that Ben will be extending his contract to help provide the cap relief the Steelers need to trade AB.

Cap is going up to 190 million + they had an extra $15 million from Bell. Doubt they needed to work a contract for cap reasons now if it wasn't meant to help with a trade.

Interested in what they get back for AB.
 
Except during the games, he's only won games, never lost any.

Lost against Miami last year by stepping out and not paying attention. Didn’t drag a foot in a late comeback bid against another opponent this year. Very prolific receiver but not flawless in his time here.
 
When Ben retires do anything you can to get a top 5 QB pick, or sign a big time free agent JUST LIKE COUSINS. PAY THE BIG MONEY to a free agent, or trade away a whole draft for a top pick. So what about Cousins in Minnesota, there's no guarantees you do it anyways, you don't go cheap for 26 years like between Bradshaw and Ben.

You play it out with who you have and if things go bad, go toward the draft. Paying a QB like Cousins, a guy who isn't gonna get your to the Super Bowl, is a monumental waste of cap space.

Dupree is a solid player. I am stunned that there is a narrative here that he is not. He is not a great player but he makes plays at speed and does not expose them in any sort of way. He is a good player.

Decent player, no way would I call him good. He also is not worth anywhere near the over $9 million they will have to pay him next year.
 
You play it out with who you have and if things go bad, go toward the draft. Paying a QB like Cousins, a guy who isn't gonna get your to the Super Bowl, is a monumental waste of cap space.
You don't know in advance if he will take you to a Super Bowl. If you have a solid roster and no QB, that's when you pull the trigger and take a BIG RIST. The thing that sucks about "Yinzer Nation" is never wanting to take a BIG RISK that might explode in your face or maybe hit the lotto.
 
Lost against Miami last year by stepping out and not paying attention. Didn’t drag a foot in a late comeback bid against another opponent this year. Very prolific receiver but not flawless in his time here.
NOBODY, is totally perfect, I'd argue he didn't lose those games. It's funny fans like you watching on TV pissed he didn't "drag a foot" as if it's easy to do.
 
You don't know in advance if he will take you to a Super Bowl. If you have a solid roster and no QB, that's when you pull the trigger and take a BIG RIST. The thing that sucks about "Yinzer Nation" is never wanting to take a BIG RISK that might explode in your face or maybe hit the lotto.
The Vikings went 13-3 last year and the second round of the playoffs.
Went 8-7-1 with cousins and are likewise watching from the couch.

Not the best example to use
 
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Never had any personal dealings with Roethlisberger, know multiple casino employees who did however.

One was a bartender at the Venetian, Roethlisberger had ordered a soda and requested it come in a bottle, not from the soda gun. Somehow this got confused and he got a “draft” soda, which he preceded to throw across the room while cursing out everyone involved. Also know a security guard at the Wynn who said he was one of the worst aholes he ever deal with, on par with Jerry Seinfeld.

This was all over a decade ago, since he got married and started a family Roethlisberger seems like a different person from what you see reported. Maybe he just grew up.
 
Wasn't it "Dancing with the Stars"? As the saying goes, "Don't quit your day job".
nope, that was two years ago...he was on the airing of some stupid singing costume show aired just last week...guessing in was taped before the broo-ha-ha started.
 
nope, that was two years ago...he was on the airing of some stupid singing costume show aired just last week...guessing in was taped before the broo-ha-ha started.
Not broo-ha-ha

Bro-ha-ha

It's a national lol for the Steelers.
 
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