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I am 42 and honestly can’t understdnd why this is a rivalry. These two teams have never been good at the same time. I remember one playoff game about 15 years ago where we beat them. Thanks to foge fazios Bend and break prevent De with a big lead.
That’s it. They were good in 80s, we weren’t. We were good in 70s, they weren’t. We were good in 90s, they weren’t then they left the city. I think they were good in 60s, we sucked.
They came back, they sucked and we were good. Plz explain to me why this is a rivalry?
That’s it. They were good in 80s, we weren’t. We were good in 70s, they weren’t. We were good in 90s, they weren’t then they left the city. I think they were good in 60s, we sucked.
They came back, they sucked and we were good. Plz explain to me why this is a rivalry?
They are a historical rival and have been in the same division, so are divisional rivals as well.
rivals
- a person or thing competing with another for the same objective or for superiority in the same field of activity.
I consider the ravens a much bigger rival. I consider the bengals a bigger rival.
Steelers and ravens have had some incredibly epic games. Huge reg season games, a lot of playoff matchups, always close and heated.
We are in same division with Cleveland. That’s it. Pretty weak rivalry if you can call it that. I hate the ravens, I strongly dislike cincy. Browns?? No strong feelings either way.
Yes, I agree 100%. Other than the traditional definition of the term rival, Cleveland really hasn't done anything to make the series even remotely interesting. I hate Cincy, mostly because their key players on D were, well, a**holes. The Ravens really mirror what the Steelers do on the field and off it, so they really are our biggest rival the last 15 years. Been to games in Pittsburgh and Baltimore, the dislike spills out into the stands at times too -- "just like the old days."
Went to a Steelers v ravens game in Baltimore about 11-12 years ago. Last game of season, meaningless. We were good, they were bad that year.
Made the mistake of wearing Steeler jersey. Got hit in face with snowball before I was out of the car. Smack dab in face. Hurt like hell. I was with girl, 6 ravens fans MF’in me, before I am out of the car. I literally hadn’t even stepped out of car and closed my door yet.
I tried not to completely P out even though I kind if did. I’m looking at them tough but still walking away. I’m like “ ok tough guys” while not making any real big moves.
That's more of a function of doing anything in Blatimore. That town is for cretins.
There needs to be some etiquette here though. I feel like you should have to allow the fan of an opposing team the luxury of completely getting out of his car before attacking him. Like when a player fair catches a punt, you give him a yard.
And that 1989 season the way the Steelers fell into the playoffs and won a playoff game and played the Broncos tougher than Cleveland did, it was almost as if PIT had a better season. That is how I view it.
That was a great post season. Huge had two back to back big games. That game prior at Houston was such a great game. Anderson in OT with a 50 yarder. Our boy Jerry O blocked a punt earlier.
I was actually a big Tim Worley fan, don’t ask why, i have no idea.
I think you mean something like if they take make a complete athletic move, 2 steps, its game on.
Otherwise they can get back in their car and leave.
Never drive a convertible to a away rivals football games.
Away rival fan rule #214 is you must be able to lock your vehicle and it must weigh atleast 4,000 lbs to prevent accidential turnover.
When the Steelers were 2-10 in 1988 I was hoping they’d lose out because I wanted Mandarich in the worst way. I was buying into the hype, but after reading the Noll book it sounded like Noll would have drafted Worley over Sanders if given the chance. Worley looked good in the Black and Gold, but man was he a dud. Thankfully, Barry Foster was drafted.
Even in the late 80s most of those early-round picks were bad. Huey Richardson over Ted Washington in Noll’s final draft in 1991 was some way to go out. He broke his nose on the first day of camp in a non-contact drill.
The move to Baltimore messed everything up. From about 77'-82', both teams were very good but we had bigger rivalries with Oak and Dallas. In the late 80's to early 90's it was great again because both teams were good. The cities and their people were so similar and so close. Now they have almost nothing in common and most that remember how great the rivalry was have moved on to hating the Ravens.
As someone who has spent a lot of time in both cities, and who still has many close friends in both places, I definitely view it as a rivalry and I can absolutely tell you they view it as a blood feud.
They want to shove it so far up our asses they can taste it. If you don’t think it’s a rivalry now, you soon will look at it as a rivalry — I guarantee it!
There are many similarities between the cultures of Pittsburgh and Cleveland. That much is definitely true. However, one glaring difference between the two is that Cleveland is delusionally optimistic regarding their sports teams and Pittsburgh is unrelentingly pessimistic regarding their sports teams.
For example, a few years ago - probably several years ago now - Pitt played at Notre Dame and as we drove home the next day from South Bend, the Steelers were edging the Browns in a very good game. I want to say Pittsburgh won, 20-17 or something like that.
Well, we listened to the game on the Cleveland Browns radio network and I am telling you even though they lost, there were 25 straight calls to their postgame show just bragging about the team. “This aspect of the team is great!...that dude is incredible, etc.”. It was basically an hour and a half of, “Yes we lost today but we are going to be incredible in the next few years.”
It was really surreal to hear after a loss. Also, it wasn’t just the fans – it was the hosts as well. It was flat out open cheerleading. I don’t care how you feel about the Pittsburgh media, nobody does anything here remotely like what you regularly hear in Cleveland.
Then, we got into Pittsburgh airspace and listened to caller after caller after caller bitching and moaning about every aspect of the Steelers team.
It was a whole bunch of, “If they think they’re going to get away with this next week against Miami (or whomever), they’re kidding themselves. This team is overrated and it stinks.”
It was a lot of stuff like that.
To me, that’s the real difference and it is also why I am exactly 0% surprised that they are acting like maniacs right now and planning their Super Bowl parades (plural) because they finally drafted a good quarterback and traded for a good receiver.
You watch, Pittsburgh will go 11-5 and Cleveland will go 9-7, and the Pittsburgh fans will treat their season as a disaster while the Cleveland fans will anoint their season as the next step in their inevitable march to immortality.
I guarantee that’s how this is going to go down if the season plays out the way I think it probably will.
They want to shove it so far up our asses they can taste it. If you don’t think it’s a rivalry now, you soon will look at it as a rivalry — I guarantee it!
There are many similarities between the cultures of Pittsburgh and Cleveland. That much is definitely true. However, one glaring difference between the two is that Cleveland is delusionally optimistic regarding their sports teams and Pittsburgh is unrelentingly pessimistic regarding their sports teams.
For example, a few years ago - probably several years ago now - Pitt played at Notre Dame and as we drove home the next day from South Bend, the Steelers were edging the Browns in a very good game. I want to say Pittsburgh won, 20-17 or something like that.
Well, we listened to the game on the Cleveland Browns radio network and I am telling you even though they lost, there were 25 straight calls to their postgame show just bragging about the team. “This aspect of the team is great!...that dude is incredible, etc.”. It was basically an hour and a half of, “Yes we lost today but we are going to be incredible in the next few years.”
It was really surreal to hear after a loss. Also, it wasn’t just the fans – it was the hosts as well. It was flat out open cheerleading. I don’t care how you feel about the Pittsburgh media, nobody does anything here remotely like what you regularly hear in Cleveland.
Then, we got into Pittsburgh airspace and listened to caller after caller after caller bitching and moaning about every aspect of the Steelers team.
It was a whole bunch of, “If they think they’re going to get away with this next week against Miami (or whomever), they’re kidding themselves. This team is overrated and it stinks.”
It was a lot of stuff like that.
To me, that’s the real difference and it is also why I am exactly 0% surprised that they are acting like maniacs right now and planning their Super Bowl parades (plural) because they finally drafted a good quarterback and traded for a good receiver.
You watch, Pittsburgh will go 11-5 and Cleveland will go 9-7, and the Pittsburgh fans will treat their season as a disaster while the Cleveland fans will anoint their season as the next step in their inevitable march to immortality.
I guarantee that’s how this is going to go down if the season plays out the way I think it probably will.
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I am almost in Cleveland as I am in Pittsburgh anymore, so I spend alot of time there, my last two companies had R&D centers located in Cleveland, and manufacturing plants in Ohio. So I appreciate the "rivalry" in the geographic/demographic angle. But that's it.
Cleveland is as much as a rival to the Steelers on the playing field as say Mississippi is to Alabama. Or worse, Vanderbilt.
Cleveland's last time they were good (early to mid 80's) the Steelers had a down turn. The last time the Browns were great, most of us on here weren't born, the AFL and NFL haven't merged, and hell a thing called the Super Bowl wasn't yet born. The Steelers sucked.
Since the merger, the Steelers have been the winningest franchise in the NFL. The Browns have been overall one of the least successful, let alone the hiatus. It would have been more interesting if the "Old Browns" didn't become the Ravens, because the Ravens became really good quickly.
But until the Browns beat the Steelers in a game of some importance, this rivalry is strictly on paper.
Cleveland is as much as a rival to the Steelers on the playing field as say Mississippi is to Alabama. Or worse, Vanderbilt.
Cleveland's last time they were good (early to mid 80's) the Steelers had a down turn. The last time the Browns were great, most of us on here weren't born, the AFL and NFL haven't merged, and hell a thing called the Super Bowl wasn't yet born. The Steelers sucked.
Since the merger, the Steelers have been the winningest franchise in the NFL. The Browns have been overall one of the least successful, let alone the hiatus. It would have been more interesting if the "Old Browns" didn't become the Ravens, because the Ravens became really good quickly.
But until the Browns beat the Steelers in a game of some importance, this rivalry is strictly on paper.
The Steelers and the Browns have always been tied at the hip. When the NFL and AFL came together, the NFL would have to give up a couple of teams in order to balance everything. The Browns and Steelers agreed to move so long as both went together and stayed in the same division. When there were big games, people would drive out to the state line to hang signs on bridges because the teams would bus back and forth and a lot of folks in Pittsburgh were with Cleveland when the Baltimore stole their franchise. So far as the on the field rivalry, a lot of it has to do with knocking each other down a peg when the other was good.
