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You commented about my comment about him not getting the transition tag THIS year. If he would have signed the offer they offered him, it would have been a great signing and well worth it.
I would never pay an RB 14.5 mil or whatever it is now. I would also never draft an RB high in the draft either. Guys like Terrell Davis showed that over a decade ago.
 
Wins: Rivers 106 - Ben 147
Game winning drives: Rivers 26 - Ben 43

Rivers is a choke artist. He played with plenty of talent. End of comparison.

Rivers has not had as much talent and basically has been sabotaged by inept ownership/management.
 
“Ben’s the elder statesman. If the players were smart, they’d listen to him. He’s been there,” Colbert said, via Jeremy Fowler of ESPN
 
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AB . Conduct unbecoming . If they can't get a decent trade deal .
Don't trade and file a suit against him and strip him of his remaining contract .
 
Good luck with that
What ?
His conduct is Not unbecoming ?
What defense does he have ?
He's been an over bearing , Insane , out of control child . Who's done nothing but crapped all over the organization (Not that anyone would notice at this point) . Unbecoming . Got to have stated that somewhere in his contract .
Stipulation #1 : "No shitting where you eat" !
 
What ?
His conduct is Not unbecoming ?
What defense does he have ?
He's been an over bearing , Insane , out of control child . Who's done nothing but crapped all over the organization (Not that anyone would notice at this point) . Unbecoming . Got to have stated that somewhere in his contract .
Stipulation #1 : "No shitting where you eat" !
There has to be something to that because this sets a really bad precedent.
 
This is absolutely false and I went through Cowher's record and posted all the losses to terrible teams he had on the boards. I'm not shocked everyone pretended it wasn't there.
The difference Ski, is Cowher did not spend most of his career with a HOF QB in his prime. Tomlin has. This is not a race thing. I could care less if Cowher was blue and Tomlin was striped.
 
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What ?
His conduct is Not unbecoming ?
What defense does he have ?
He's been an over bearing , Insane , out of control child . Who's done nothing but crapped all over the organization (Not that anyone would notice at this point) . Unbecoming . Got to have stated that somewhere in his contract .
Stipulation #1 : "No shitting where you eat" !

Like I said. Good luck with that.
 
The difference Ski, is Cowher did not spend most of his career with a HOF QB in his prime. Tomlin has. This is not a race thing. I could care less if Cowher was blue and Tomlin was striped.
It’s ridiculous that you even have to go there, Owt. Was anyone worried about race when they were critical of Cowher? The levels of criticism toward Cowher weren’t any different than the levels toward Tomlin. People have short memories.
 
AB . Conduct unbecoming . If they can't get a decent trade deal .
Don't trade and file a suit against him and strip him of his remaining contract .
If being a jerk is breach of contract plenty of Pro athletes would be in trouble.
 
It’s ridiculous that you even have to go there, Owt. Was anyone worried about race when they were critical of Cowher? The levels of criticism toward Cowher weren’t any different than the levels toward Tomlin. People have short memories.

I’m confused about the part where I brought up race...
 
It’s ridiculous that you even have to go there, Owt. Was anyone worried about race when they were critical of Cowher? The levels of criticism toward Cowher weren’t any different than the levels toward Tomlin. People have short memories.
I know but up until this year, a lot of criticisms of MT wee dismissed or shouted down under this item.
 
The difference Ski, is Cowher did not spend most of his career with a HOF QB in his prime. Tomlin has. This is not a race thing. I could care less if Cowher was blue and Tomlin was striped.

1: Different game more reliant on RBsz
2: Better defense.
3: So what? Cowher should have drafted better.

I find this a profoundly unconvincing excuse.
 
It’s ridiculous that you even have to go there, Owt. Was anyone worried about race when they were critical of Cowher? The levels of criticism toward Cowher weren’t any different than the levels toward Tomlin. People have short memories.
If you think it didn’t matter with kordell you’re fooling yourself.
 
If you think it didn’t matter with kordell you’re fooling yourself.
I won’t argue that. That was 20 years ago. We all knew people who were prejudice against black QB’s. It was a real thing. But a majority of those people were the old generation that grew up differently than the way we grew up. Those people are dying off. And while today there are certainly people who have a problem with Tomlin because he’s black, they are very few and far between. My point to Owt is that no one should have to feel like they have to put out some kind of a disclaimer before they criticize a coach. If you want to criticize tomlin, criticize him. No one should give you grief about it.
 
I won’t argue that. That was 20 years ago. We all knew people who were prejudice against black QB’s. It was a real thing. But a majority of those people were the old generation that grew up differently than the way we grew up. Those people are dying off. And while today there are certainly people who have a problem with Tomlin because he’s black, they are very few and far between. My point to Owt is that no one should have to feel like they have to put out some kind of a disclaimer before they criticize a coach. If you want to criticize tomlin, criticize him. No one should give you grief about it.
Dude-

Western pa is one of the most racist places I know-

As someone who lived in North Carolina for 15 years
 
I won’t argue that. That was 20 years ago. We all knew people who were prejudice against black QB’s. It was a real thing. But a majority of those people were the old generation that grew up differently than the way we grew up. Those people are dying off. And while today there are certainly people who have a problem with Tomlin because he’s black, they are very few and far between. My point to Owt is that no one should have to feel like they have to put out some kind of a disclaimer before they criticize a coach. If you want to criticize tomlin, criticize him. No one should give you grief about it.
Kordell couldn’t play qb in the nfl. Cowhers stubbornness kept him at an a year or two too many. A smarter coach would have talked kordell into moving full time as a wr and had he done that, he’d have had a nice career.

The color of his skin allowed cowher the leeway to keep trying him at qb despite everyone seeing the obvious, his accuracy was horrid. A white qb, with his failures at qb, would have been benched long before kordell was. Cowher wanted to be some sort of pioneer and it set the team back years.
 
Why aren't democrats and republicans considered racists? Are they not hating upon another individual based off of their belief?
 
I am not surprised that you think this, considering you look for it 24/7.

It’s really laughable to me that liberals see so much racism in their bubbles, yet in conservative suburbia, there’s little to none.
Never doubt souf’s ability to find racism anywhere and everywhere. You lower the bar of what is racist enough, you’ll find it
 
I don’t know what you’re asking. Progressives hate on Christians, but embrace Muslims. Race plays a part in that sentiment, as it always does with progressives.
Trump is pushing to ban all anti homophobic laws, much to the disdain of several Islamic countries in Middle East. There are literally countries where being gay is against the law. Trump trying to change that.


What in the world does a liberal do here?
 
Good point
Hating a black an was a thing -
But those some folks evolved to embrace a black head coach
You’re going to tell you you haven’t heard the Rooney Rule rationale?
Kordell was loved in this town, until he continued to fail time and again as a qb. Pittsburghers have shown much more venom towards bad qbs then slash. Remember mark malone? stoudt? brister? they recieved way more animosity than kordell.
 
I don’t know what you’re asking. Progressives hate on Christians, but embrace Muslims. Race plays a part in that sentiment, as it always does with progressives.
Progressives don’t hate on Christians -
Practice your faith in private as you wish

Of course, that’s never enough- you want government to affirm and ordain your beliefs .

I have no tolerance for that regardless of the origin of the religion.
 
Trump is pushing to ban all anti homophobic laws, much to the disdain of several Islamic countries in Middle East. There are literally countries where being gay is against the law. Trump trying to change that.


What in the world does a liberal do here?
Trump has done so many things that liberals should embrace, but their hatred clouds their vision.

I mean? Think about it. Because he wants a wall, they say walls don’t work. And they truly have convinced themselves that walls don’t work. They lose all logic.
 
Kordell was loved in this town, until he continued to fail time and again as a qb. Pittsburghers have shown much more venom towards bad qbs then slash. Remember mark malone? stoudt? brister? they recieved way more animosity than kordell.
You have a good point. We do hate our QBs in this town. But being black did make it a bit worse.
 
Just look at the state of the union address. He literally went back and forth showing support on issues that Dems normally embrace and what cons normally embrace. Yet he couldn’t get smiles and approvals from the Dems. They don’t want to give the impression that he is actually reaching across the aisle. It kills their narrative.

Mostly because he speaks exclusively in lies -
And has done nothing in practice and execution to indicate he’s anything but a right wing nut
 
KOrdell gets rumors about schenley park for 20 years to destroy his reputation and career.
That destroyed his career? Lol, yeah, the nfl GMs all thought he was a really good QBs but those rumors kept him from succeeding. M

Come on, no one gave a crap about that. It was office gossip for a few months, nothing more. Same people said bill was hooking up with a secretary behind his wife’s back. Again, gossip.
 
That destroyed his career? Lol, yeah, the nfl GMs all thought he was a really good QBs but those rumors kept him from succeeding. M

Come on, no one gave a crap about that. It was office gossip for a few months, nothing more. Same people said bill was hooking up with a secretary behind his wife’s back. Again, gossip.
I thought the rumor was that Bill was hooking up with Kordells sister. Lol.

Now it makes sense. So people who were critical of Cowher were actually critical of him because they thought he was having relations with a black woman, not because his record in home AfC championship games.

Life through the eyes of a progressive.
 
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