Other than the pregame fight, none of those were on-field issues. Pickens taking plays off, tantrums on the sideline, and dumb penalties are the on-field issues. DJ and his lack of effort were on-field issues.
You’re really grasping at stuff that can all individually be debated, but none of those things you mentioned were chronic issues that impacted things on the field. That group I mentioned policed their locker room. Other than Ben. His shithousery cost the Steelers a potential dynasty, going 8-8 Cowhers last year because of him. And cowher retired because of it. Maybe Tomlin should follow Cowher to CBS.
lol. And you think the Steelers offense is good. All the more reason this offense should be targeting your boy more. Thanks for making my argument dopey
After seeing Dotson i have no doubt its coaching and Jones would be a good LT if he got real coaching. Not the Mike Tomlin form of coaching. I think Jones will be a good LT if we get a real OL coach
Who said it was good
Nevermind Ben actually gaining weight during the season ?
Yeah I posted about this in the other thread. The Steelers want to make a splash in FA and trade Pickens. This is exactly what I posted three weeks ago, yet soufie said it wasn’t happening.
im not sure of his trade value. he's in his last year under a rookie contract but he is a cancer. but like we said before, you only need one GM to think they can "change" him. I'd LOVE to get a 2nd rounder for him but that might be wishful thinking..
You’re really reaching to try and make a point. Name a chronic problem in that locker room in those days that hurt the team? I’d say that Ben might have been the only one, considering his behavior took a Super Bowl contender to an 8-8 season.
Dude I’d take a 4th. Anything really. Same goes for any player on the roster, not just him. The team isn’t competing for a championship next year. Might as well kick the can down the road and get draft picks for productive players if you can.
think you have to move TJ too. we got his best years, he still has trade value. a contender would love him. would be a PR hit with yinzer nation for sure but it's the smart move..
He and Minkah are at the top of my list…along with George and probably ahead of George.
whoever said Porter was a locker room culture enforcer lol. the moron had the intelligence of a piece of celery. we all kind of knew his character when he was getting into a gun fight at a bar in denver during the season. dude bragged about his pet dogs eating his neighbors horse on social media, what kind of sick F does that?
I did. Well, I said Porter would have put a guy like Pickens in his place. George wouldn’t be showing up late chronically and only running half his routes.
ugh, yeah, gonna disagree on that one. i think those late 2000 Cowher teams had some great locker room guys, farrior, Hampton, Aaron smith. porter was someone you keep the young guys away from..
Yeah I get that. But he also would have knocked out George. But yeah, to your point, who in this locker room is a farrior, etc? I don’t think it’s Cam, Minkah or TJ.
Yeah I can’t even make out anymore the word salad being vomited up in these threads in an effort that deflect blame away from the coach.
im curious what kind of sway Khan the accountant actually has. i Believe we'll know better with this off season. big off season moves are necessary and the steelers usually are very conservative in the off season.. proof will be there to see soon enough if Khan is an actual GM or just a puppet..
Isn’t this what moving of from Dionte was supposed to do ?
Porter wasn’t exactly disciplined himself
Except the Steelers aren’t cash constrained like Pitt athletics
No doubt. But Pitt hamstrung themselves with those extensions.
Both seem to be aging like milk .
And why would rooney give Tomlin the atypical extra years extension AND a raise? When asked last year, Rooney’s immediate response was that “the players like Mike and he’s respected around the league”.
Really is a no brainer. Especially when Dulac, Fittipaldo, and Bouchette all say it should happen.
i think the problem is, you arent getting much value for him in return. teams know his issues, one year left on a rookie contract, probably 2nd rd pick at best..
