Now that you say it like that, he's perfect to be the face of this franchise.
Pickens ain’t optimistic!
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Now that you say it like that, he's perfect to be the face of this franchise.
How about trying a new head coach that can instill some discipline and teach a man to grow up instead of caudling a man full of childish behavior.
He wasn’t a difference maker either. And if you think theyll be paying him 1.3 mill this coming year you’re dumber than you’re posts make you look
Better yet. How about not drafting clowns who were known to be clowns well before the draft. It was well documented that Pickens was a head case before the draft which is why so many teams passed on him.
the steelers have taken drafting mental midgets for WRs to a new level. Claypool, Bryant, Dionte, Pickens. you almost have to try and find people this dumb..
Throw in just terrible picks like James Washington, Sammy Coates, Tony clemons and it's crazy how bad the steelers are with drafting Wrs..
You can be dumber than a box of rocks if you produce like Bryant and Johnson did here, especially at their best. But at some point the production/headache graph goes negative, and then it's time to send them on their way.
So? He's not optimistic.... Neither am I......
They are
His last year of his rookie contract so $1.6mil next season
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I’m not sure what your point is here. I’m sure he will be shopped. And if there aren’t takers, he will be back here. No one is debating your 1.6mil comment.
But signing him to a big money extension isn’t happening, in spite of your claims throughout the season. Unless he has a come to Jesus and turns into Russ Wilson off the field and Hines Ward on the Field.
The point the board idiot is missing is Pickens thinks he’s worthy of #1 money and is going yo demand an extension prior to next season that pays him #1 money If you thought he was a cancer in locker room this you you ain’t seen nothing yet. Thats why most people think he won’t be on the Roster next year at 1.6 mil. They’ll either cave and over pay him with an extension or trade him.
pittbb80 said it, you cant have that guy on your roster if he's in his last year of a contract man. he would be an absolute nightmare. Think Antonio Brown quitting in mid game but with 1/3 of the talent and production.
you dont sign him, you get him as far away from pittsburgh as you can.
Not sure why Souf is so emotionally attached to that troublemaker. It’s weird.
That’s crazy. AB is the best receiver I’ve seen in my 31 years. Instead of pushing off on every close throw, he got his body in the way until he caught it. Was an usher at Heinz when we were. (Paid well for wild tickets, and the reporting tips is umm not gonna be reported. And Gay) The triple B’s.
You can have ultra focused wide receivers who get mad because perfection is met with fury.
AB being mad about about the facemasks in Oakland is proof he is a perfectionist. Not crazy.
There’s no hope for a Steeler Super Bowl in the next 3. Russel sucks and our O line sucks.
Edit: Ryan Shazier was a beast. His pregame freezing warmup was shirtless picking off passes. Wild to see/ remember.
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I mean, why should he be, right? They won one more SB with Cowher's team in 2008 then it's been a constant stream of blaming coordinators, QBs, and players. Running out of ways to cover for the HC being a moron.
Zero emotion
Production versus costs . It’s simply logic and business . Steelers have 100% of the leverage and Pickens has O% this upcoming season .
The emotional folks are using the emotional words like “cancer “ and “head case “
I see a very productive and cheap WR , which gives us more cap space to improve the WR room
Can’t say he’s very productive. Mildly productive yes, when he wants to be. He’s Farmer Ted-king of the dipshits. Someone in that WR room has to catch balls and by default it’s him. He’s a one trick pony with behavioral issues. He’s just not a WR1 and is going to want paid like one. Who would pay a malcontent with only one skill set 25-30 million? That just means more drama next year—maybe more than this year if it’s possible. No doubt the Steelers are having conversations internally about shopping him around the league. Maybe another team will want the headache at his price for a year.
I’d shop him and essentially every player not named Boswell around the league. Sign Fields to a cheap deal and get lots of draft picks.
Thank God Cowher had a couple 6-10 seasons. Without them there would have been no super bowls. Hopefully the Steelers aren’t fixated on stumbling to another 9-8 record and some weird manufactured non losing season streak. Bite the bullet and try reloading. This is the way.
the problem is, he only has one year left so you arent going to get much for him. maybe a late rd pick. still better than allowing this cancer back into the locker room in '25.
khan and tomlin need to find out why they continue to draft these clowns every year and change their process. character does matter, it's costing them W's. but you dont need 31 other GMs to love him, you just need one. one foolish guy who thinks they can "fix" him in their system and for him to overpay. lets hope that guy is out there.
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That’s the thing. People talk about his talent but for all those talents he was 28th in the league in targets on a team void of talent at the skill positions. Teams rarely double teamed him so it’s not because the other team took him away. He rarely gets separation.
It’s because as you said he’s a one trick pony and far from a compete receiver. I’m not sure he’s even a legit #2.
If he stays and is productive next year I’ll be willing to admit I’m wrong. But I’m pretty confident one of two things happen. He’s traded before the season OR this clown organization extends him to keep his head from exploding and ends up over paying for him.
They got decent value for Claypool and Johnson who most would say were not near as talented. Will be interesting for sure to see how this works out
good point.. it only takes one terrible GM who is desperate to give you over value. lets hope khan can "con" someone like he did with the bears.
I have tried very hard to support him because he is a V E R Y high end talent, and I am mostly entertained by the crazy stuff he does on the field like take on four defenders at the sideline, stiff arming on and when the play ended being the only one still on his feet.
But, his horrific performance with the drops, and how he acted as other noted, in the Bengals game was the final straw, he just is way too unstable to put the kind of money into him that he will rightfully demand this upcoming year, and he needs to get out of Pittsburgh to have a chance, because MTs reputation as a "great leader of men" is absolute smoke and mirrors.
Not sure anyone will be able to reach him, but the great Mike Tomlin has had three years and he still is a toddler.
Pickens reminds me of Randy Moss before he went to New England for a few years.
Serious question. Has Mike Tomlin ever “reached” a head case like Pickens? As someone else said he and the team tolerated AB because he was an elite receiver and he really didn’t go off the reservation till the end of the AB may be the only example MT was able to control a bit
Can he really be a moron?? He speaks in elegant prose. He should write romance novels and poems. I don't see Andy Reid or Sean McVey or Sean McDermott or Nick Siriani speaking in similar tongues, these guys specialize in having teams that can compete for conference and league titles.
But you weren’t wrong. It doesn’t take receivers three years to develop skill sets that make them more than just a guy who makes good contested catches along the sideline. If he comes back next year and is a model citizen with a great disposition, well it would take the biggest transformation in history since Clark Kent first entered a phone booth.
bunch of tweets coming out now about how pickens was late for games and now practices. i think the "smear campaign" has started, the first signs of the organization moving him in the off season and getting little push back from fans.
Yeah he’s not a moron. The guy is super intelligent. And he’s a great ambassador for the team, City and league. He just has outdated principles and doesn’t employee innovative coaches. His alleged specialty, defense, isn’t an asset he possesses. A motivational guy, which is his strong suit, can’t overcome a flawed and outdated approach to football. He was able to motivate a team filled with HOF leaders to a championship. And he had an innovator on defense that he was smart enough to keep in place. Without those things in place, he can’t motivate a franchise to a miracle.
I was pretty sure he would be the scapegoat for the annual excuse making and apologists campaign.
Mike DeFabo of the Athletic is the one facilitating the leak, sorry, reporting this.
If we see Dulac refute it, you know it’s the Steelers giving him the marching orders and doing damage control in an effort to keep his trade value from sliding.
That does seem to be the script although I'm not sure there's much to save in this case. I think there were only two guys drafted ahead of him that have better stats. A lot of teams just passed on Pickens because they saw him as a problem and I suspect teams will reference those scouting reports to reconcile what they're seeing from him in the NFL.
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