For drafting him with #1 pick, completely agree!It just makes the stillers look like bozos.
For drafting him with #1 pick, completely agree!It just makes the stillers look like bozos.
Kenny played with backups against the Pats first team defensive but let's not let rationale and facts get in the way. And yes...we were led to believe that the Steelers had "UPGRADED" their quarterback room...looks like they just changed the toilet seat.Rookie outperformed him in second game.
And the fact Wilson and Fields stinking it up doesn’t make KP any better.
Yeah, KP well on his way to Canton!!Kenny played with backups against the Pats first team defensive but let's not let rationale and facts get in the way. And yes...we were led to believe that the Steelers had "UPGRADED" their quarterback room...looks like they just changed the toilet seat.
Oh trust me, they have looked like bozos for awhile now.It just makes the stillers look like bozos.
They’re trapped by Tomlins penchant for finishing around.500.Oh trust me, they have looked like bozos for awhile now.
The sad thing is....looking forward, there is not a really good QB class the next 2 years unless some guys emerge.They’re trapped by Tomlins penchant for finishing around.500.
Need a top 5 draft position to reset the QB room.
The past two drafts were solid but without a franchise QB it does no good
Probably doesn’t matter because the defense all but assures a continuation of the much hated streak of non losing seasons.The sad thing is....looking forward, there is not a really good QB class the next 2 years unless some guys emerge.
Don’t disagree but I’m not sure a franchise qb would have made a difference with this team the last two years. He’d have been running for his life and throwing to stiffs with an OC that’s cluelessThey’re trapped by Tomlins penchant for finishing around.500.
Need a top 5 draft position to reset the QB room.
The past two drafts were solid but without a franchise QB it does no good
Kenny was under contract - he didn’t have that power .He wanted out. They got what they could for him.
With his play to date with Philly seems they sold high.
Let me repeat -Rookie outperformed him in second game.
And the fact Wilson and Fields stinking it up doesn’t make KP any better.
We will just hope the second competely broken bears qb works better -but then he’s due $25 mil next season. As a backup currently who can’t score points or sustain drivesFor drafting him with #1 pick, completely agree!
They could have done all those things, but they didn't botch it. They were, at best, stuck in neutral if they stayed status quo. Upside was another 9-8 type season with a first-round playoff loss. Upside with Wilson is he has one more good year and can get them a playoff win. Upside of Fields was everything clicked and he began to show why he was a high draft pick.Let me repeat -
Kenny has two more years on a rookie deal
Fields is due a 5th year option next year .
Fields in no way is an upgrade over Kenny
Wilson may not be either :
Stillers could have also signed Mason cheaply on a multiple year contract .
They completely botched this
Unfortunately, not sure what happened, but something happened. The marriage ran its course and Kenny wanted out as much as the Steelers wanted him out. Maybe Tomlin is racist, I dunno.Let me repeat -
Kenny has two more years on a rookie deal
Fields is due a 5th year option next year .
Fields in no way is an upgrade over Kenny
Wilson may not be either :
Stillers could have also signed Mason cheaply on a multiple year contract .
They completely botched this
They declined Fields option in like the beginning of May. Who really cares if the backup QB stays or goes anyway? They're a dime a dozen.We will just hope the second competely broken bears qb works better -but then he’s due $25 mil next season. As a backup currently who can’t score points or sustain drives
Brilliant
That 5th year option came due already and the Steelers passed.We will just hope the second competely broken bears qb works better -but then he’s due $25 mil next season. As a backup currently who can’t score points or sustain drives
Brilliant
He's only been through one full time and another he's just starting with - so I'm going to take a wait and see approach.How many offensive coordinators, head coaches, and teams will Kenny have to go through before those unable to acknowledge that his spin-moves in the pocket into sacks and being scared to throw the ball downfield render him not a quality NFL QB?
It's a futuristic-based question. I should have added two? Three?He's only been through one full time and another he's just starting with - so I'm going to take a wait and see approach.
Gee, you’re wrong! Let me repeat you’re wrong! 😂We will just hope the second competely broken bears qb works better -but then he’s due $25 mil next season. As a backup currently who can’t score points or sustain drives
Brilliant
About what? He requested a trade. Correct.Kenny was under contract - he didn’t have that power .
You’re incorrect
Receiver was running a post - all fields needed was to if anything over lead him with some air under the ball.I am not one who tries to play factual twister in defending Kenny Pickett like some of you do. But that pass that Justin Fields threw 15 yards over the head of a WR for a sure TD and this misread below, would have all the anti Pickett torches and pitchforks from media and fans (Nitters and Hoopies) would be deafening. So yeah in this regard, Kenny got a bad deal.
I really like Payton Willis , since I have a NCSU degree -About what? He requested a trade. Correct.
Steelers accommodated him and traded him.
They got more for him than they would have with him sitting a year or worse regressing further.
Yeah - what’s his option contract due for next season ?Gee, you’re wrong! Let me repeat you’re wrong! 😂
They're setting Wilson up to be in a 3-man rotation at linebacker and he'll probably see a lot of action on passing downs as the season progresses.I really like Payton Willis , since I have a NCSU degree -
But a backup MLB isn’t equal value
So - instead we have not 1 but 2. One year rental QBs- so we turn over the entire room again next year .
Its idiotic
Hint: The Steelers are under NO obligation to sign either of these guys after the season.Yeah - what’s his option contract due for next season ?
Because hint he’s UFA since we declined the option /
So - spoiler alert - the stillers even invest more money and years guanteed or he’s gone .
Hint -
Two 1 year rental qbs instead of anything else with either Kenny (cheaper than fields ) or Mason- only slightly more expensive than fields
LOL, Cleanup on Aisle 2!I really like Payton Willis , since I have a NCSU degree -
But a backup MLB isn’t equal value
So - instead we have not 1 but 2. One year rental QBs- so we turn over the entire room again next year .
Its idiotic
Add the multiple passes that went through the hands of defenders.I am not one who tries to play factual twister in defending Kenny Pickett like some of you do. But that pass that Justin Fields threw 15 yards over the head of a WR for a sure TD and this misread below, would have all the anti Pickett torches and pitchforks from media and fans (Nitters and Hoopies) would be deafening. So yeah in this regard, Kenny got a bad deal.
Unfortunately, not sure what happened, but something happened. The marriage ran its course and Kenny wanted out as much as the Steelers wanted him out. Maybe Tomlin is racist, I dunno.
And yet people expect more out of the QB position.That's what I lean toward.
The drafting has sucked.
Tomlin sucks.
The o line has sucked.
The receivers suck.
The quarterbacks - I am talking abiut every single one we've been graced with since 2020 - have all sucked.
The tight end sucks.
Najee mostly sucks.
Canada sucked.
Smith looked like he sucks.
The coaching/development has sucked.
Other than that, I am optimistic.
Jones turned into Mason Cole for a night. Can’t blame Russ. I’m concerned about Broderick.The last few drafts *seem* good, but Jones was awful last night and I've not exactly heard reports of the other two linemen dominating. Obviously they could all three end up being Pro Bowlers; I'm only saying nothing has been written in ink yet other than Jones mostly holding his own last season.
Pickens has a unique skillset, but I don't consider him a #1 receiver at all. He needs a complement, and we don't seem to have one at the moment.
Defense should be fine, yeah. But I thought we were on the upswing with the rebuild... but these preseason games have me wondering if we've not even bottomed out yet.
yeah, brutal. wonder if he just truly hates playing RT and is there til Fautanu gets healthy. but very discouraging. Dan Moore cant play RT, obviously Jones cant do it. so its Fautanu or bust i guess..Jones turned into Mason Cole for a night. Can’t blame Russ. I’m concerned about Broderick.
The room is that bad and yet only Johnson left it. The fact is there is no statistical significance between last years room and this years room.You think Fields will be the QB? I definitely expect Wilson to get the nod. Unfortunately, if you gave Fields from now to the beginning of the season there's a chance he could be our 2nd best receiver, though... the room is looking that bad.
UghI don't see Tomlin tolerating the (at least) two turnovers a game that are inevitably going to come with him. I mean, he is going to botch at least one snap per game; that much is given. And he is going to hit the DBs in the chest at least once or twice per game as well.
I could see a frustrating 1-3 start and the city turning on Wilson or something, with Fields taking over after that. But I don't think he'll be the guy initially.
People on both sides of the state are placing too much on preseason football.He wanted out. They got what they could for him.
With his play to date with Philly seems they sold high.
Can’t disagree. But there were no QBs available to them at that moment in time, or since. They took their shot.It's amazing to me that so many people can talk about how incompetent the Steelers are and how all their draft picks sucked without considering the possibility that taking one of the most-scrutinized "first QBs taken" ever was also a dumb move. Like he's the one singular guy they hit on and everyone around him just happens to suck.
Like, yeah.... Najee was a bad pick. Friermuth was a bad pick. So TF was Pickett!
I can’t understand the Johnson one with no backup.The room is that bad and yet you lay Johnson left it. The fact is there is no statistical significance between last years room and this years room.