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Pitt finds itself in what is easily the nation's best athletic conference

I left out the fact that 4 of the ACC's impressive bowl victories came against teams with a combined record of .500.

People on here are reading way too much into bowl games. That's ironic considering we are 1-5 in our last 6 bowls, with the only win coming against Bowling Green in the $5 Pizza bowl.

The ACC had a good year. But imo, the Big 10 was better. I see it the same way as most of the national pundits.
 
 
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TD_6082 said:
I left out the fact that 4 of the ACC's impressive bowl victories came against teams with a combined record of .500.

People on here are reading way too much into bowl games. That's ironic considering we are 1-5 in our last 6 bowls, with the only win coming against Bowling Green in the $5 Pizza bowl.

The ACC had a good year. But imo, the Big 10 was better. I see it the same way as most of the national pundits.
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-No National pundit agrees with you since the ACC was 17-6 against the Big Ten and SEC this year and slaughtered every top team from both conferences. The fact Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State were clowned by ACC teams must really burn you up.
 
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Man you are WAY off! Since you are all about the polls and committees, here is a recap.

ACC 3-1 vs BIG
#2 Clemson beat #3 OSU.
#11 Florida State beat #6 Michigan.
#23 Pitt lost to Northwestern. (What people don't realize is Pitt was the 7th best team in the ACC, Northwestern was the 8th best team in the BIG.)
Boston College beat Maryland.

ACC vs Others
Unranked Miami beat #16 WVU.
Unranked Wake Forest beat #24 Temple.
#13 Louisville lost to #20 LSU
#22 Virginia Tech beat Arkansas.
Unranked UNC lost to #18 Stanford.
Maryland/BC, NC State/Vanderbilt were even.
Georgia Tech and Kentucky had a one game difference in their records.

So in the ACC, only two ranked teams played unranked teams while three unranked teams played a ranked team and won two of them.

B1G 1-3 vs ACC
See above for head to head.
#5 Penn State lost to #9 USC.
#8 Wisconsin beat # 15 Western Michigan.
Unranked Iowa lost to #17 Florida, both teams were 8-4.
Unranked Nebraska lost to #21 Tennessee, both teams ended up 9-4.
Indiana lost to #19 Utah.
Minnesota/Washington State Even.

So in the B1G the top three teams lost, two were ranked higher than their opponents and one was ranked one behind.
Only one game was a mismatch, Indiana and Utah. The rest were even.

So how do you come to your conclusions?










TD_6082 said:
I left out the fact that 4 of the ACC's impressive bowl victories came against teams with a combined record of .500.

People on here are reading way too much into bowl games. That's ironic considering we are 1-5 in our last 6 bowls, with the only win coming against Bowling Green in the $5 Pizza bowl.

The ACC had a good year. But imo, the Big 10 was better. I see it the same way as most of the national pundits.
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Do mean THIS Stewart Mandel?

Stewart Lance Mandel is an American sports writer who focuses on college football and college basketball. Mandel was raised in Cincinnati, Ohio, attending Sycamore High School, and is a graduate of Northwestern University (1998) with a degree in Journalism.

Yeah, I'm sure he isn't too biased.

This is where a lot of people fail. They read articles and listen to people in the media, but do not check their backgrounds. Every time I see a pro B1G article, I Google the author and in almost EVERY instance it is a B1G graduate homer spewing his worthless opinion and people like you just lick it up.

TD_6082 said:
Stewart Mandel obviously feels differently.

The ACC was a 2 team league and FSU played like crap in 2 games.
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Take away the conference affiliations and look at geography. Northern football schools didn't fare too well against Southern football schools. If the Civil War would have been contested on the college football field the Union would be no more.
 
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But Mandel says

On Monday, SEC champ Alabama will meet ACC champ Clemson to determine the nation’s best team for 2016. Regardless of the result, we already know which was the top conference this season.



Can you say, “A-C-C! A-C-C!”

The actual national consensus is the ACC was the best conference this year.

I'm still waiting on TD6082 to show us where his claims of a national consensus came from. Please don't upload a picture of your butt. Nobody wants that.


TD_6082 said:
Stewart Mandel obviously feels differently.

The ACC was a 2 team league and FSU played like crap in 2 games.
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ncyajleel said:
Do mean THIS Stewart Mandel?

Stewart Lance Mandel is an American sports writer who focuses on college football and college basketball. Mandel was raised in Cincinnati, Ohio, attending Sycamore High School, and is a graduate of Northwestern University (1998) with a degree in Journalism.

Yeah, I'm sure he isn't too biased.

This is where a lot of people fail. They read articles and listen to people in the media, but do not check their backgrounds. Every time I see a pro B1G article, I Google the author and in almost EVERY instance it is a B1G graduate homer spewing his worthless opinion and people like you just lick it up.
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TD_6082 said:
Stewart Mandel obviously feels differently.

The ACC was a 2 team league and FSU played like crap in 2 games.
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-Big Ten was a 0 team league

But it gets even better.

-The Big Ten has 3 National Titles in the last 35 years, worst in the P5. The Big Ten was dead last in National Title Game appearances in the bcs era.

-Every team in the Big Ten has a losing bowl record except Ohio State, Penn State, and Purdue, All Time

-I also read somewhere the Big Ten is 20 games under .500 in bowl games since the BCS era. Considering the Big Ten went 3-7 in bowl games this year which once again was the bottom feeder in Power 5. The Big Ten is a conference to forget, remember 2011 when the Fat 10 went 0-5 on new years bowl games.

-When I think of the Big Ten Football Conference,. i think of A Conference Punching bag for everyone else.

-I also have to laugh at Michigan, the Big Ten's flagship team, has a total of 1 National Title in almost 70 years. The Big Ten is a joke. The Big Ten Football = ACC Baseball, Pretender league.
 
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The Big 10 has much better bowl tie-ins than the ACC.

FSU is the only team in the ACC with hardware in your time frame, unless you count the one joke of a shared title GaTech won in 1990. That title is right there beside BYU's 84 title in terms of respectability.

How do you think of the Big 10 as a punching bag for everyone else? We lost to Northwestern. We went 1-3 in recent games against Iowa. We went 0-2 against Michigan State. We suffered our worst ever defeat, 72-0 to tOSU. We hired Narduzzi, Chryst, and Walt from Big 10 schools... They sure aren't a punching bag for us.
 
TD_6082 said:
The Big 10 has much better bowl tie-ins than the ACC.

FSU is the only team in the ACC with hardware in your time frame, unless you count the one joke of a shared title GaTech won in 1990. That title is right there beside BYU's 84 title in terms of respectability.

How do you think of the Big 10 as a punching bag for everyone else? We lost to Northwestern. We went 1-3 in recent games against Iowa. We went 0-2 against Michigan State. We suffered our worst ever defeat, 72-0 to tOSU. We hired Narduzzi, Chryst, and Walt from Big 10 schools... They sure aren't a punching bag for us.
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Pitt's record this year or in previous years is not mutually exclusive to the B1G's abysmal bowl performance. Both are true. And I'm not sure where you're going with the B1G Bowl tie-ins. If your point is that the B1G is the best conference than regardless of the match-ups they should win. Period. And as another post pointed out, it is a fallacy that they had match-ups that were more unfavorable to them than any other conference. TD - this is one fight you need to bow out gracefully.
 
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Pitt has a seat at the table

Now, we have to do something about it

If Clemson wins the NC, then UVA wins it in basketball and we finish middle of the pack in both sports, it really doesn't do much for me.


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I love threads where facts speak for themselves.
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pitt-girl said:
Pitt's record this year or in previous years is not mutually exclusive to the B1G's abysmal bowl performance. Both are true. And I'm not sure where you're going with the B1G Bowl tie-ins. If your point is that the B1G is the best conference than regardless of the match-ups they should win. Period. And as another post pointed out, it is a fallacy that they had match-ups that were more unfavorable to them than any other conference. TD - this is one fight you need to bow out gracefully.
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I happen to think the B1G was the best conference this year. That's my opinion. Besides, I'm a big picture guy & The SEC is always going to carry the banner for college football. That's never going to change.
 
TD_6082 said:
I happen to think the B1G was the best conference this year. That's my opinion. Besides, I'm a big picture guy & The SEC is always going to carry the banner for college football. That's never going to change.
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Where are your facts? Head to Head? Overall winning %? Polls are based on the biased media's opinion. Look no further than the Presidential Election.
 
TD_6082 said:
I left out the fact that 4 of the ACC's impressive bowl victories came against teams with a combined record of .500.

People on here are reading way too much into bowl games. That's ironic considering we are 1-5 in our last 6 bowls, with the only win coming against Bowling Green in the $5 Pizza bowl.

The ACC had a good year. But imo, the Big 10 was better. I see it the same way as most of the national pundits.
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Most national pundits feel the ACC was the best conference. You keep picking out the worst of the ACC and not comparing it to any other conference. Of course it will look bad to you that way.
 
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I happen to think the B1G was the best conference this year. That's my opinion. Besides, I'm a big picture guy & The SEC is always going to carry the banner for college football. That's never going to change.
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you happen to be wrong and no one outside of state college, ann arbor, columbus, etc, agree with you.

I can't figure out if this is just a great gimmick you run or you are really this dumb. Thinking it is a deep cover trolling job since no one is that stupid.
 
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In college football, ya know how to tell if you're watching a Top 10 team? ...look at the polls and see if they are in the top 10.

Its still a perception driven sport.

The B1G is going to have as many, if not more Top 10 teams than the ACC.

BTW, Had PSU & Michigan lost in the same embarrassing fashion as tOSU, my opinion would have changed on the B1G.
 
Slick Manager of Champs said:
you happen to be wrong and no one outside of state college, ann arbor, columbus, etc, agree with you.

I can't figure out if this is just a great gimmick you run or you are really this dumb. Thinking it is a deep cover trolling job since no one is that stupid.
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Slick, most people on this board think Pitt is better than PSU. How many non Pitt fans do you think hold that opinion?
 
Nobody cares about the middle or bottom teir. We never judged Big East basketball by South Florida, St Johns, Seton Hall, Providence, DePaul and Rutgers.

And its really hard to look favorably on a team that loses 80-16, or whatever the hell it was, to a mediocre team like Louisville. Its one thing to lose, another to lose badly... and yet another to get embarassed like that.
 
ThePanthers said:
Acc will have 2 teams above any big 10 team.

Top 25 (which most people look at) will have more acc teams ranked.

On the field results will strongly show acc is better this year.
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Top 25? I'm sorry, but once you get past the top 10, then we're no longer talking about contenders. At that point, we're talking wannabes.
 
TD_6082 said:
What do you think the Top 10 is going to tell us?
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The Top 10 is going to tell us that a disproportionate number of alumni from Big Ten schools work in the sports media business, and bring their biases into their poll votes.
 
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Well, AP voters dont have that luxury. Call me crazy, but I don't think they are going to determine that we are the better team, despite 42-39.
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Which non conference teams did the Big 10 beat? Then let's list the nonconference teams the ACC beat and compare? Go ahead.
 
When it comes to overall body of work, I think Clemson is the best among any other ACC or B1G team. After that, I would have 4 Big 10 teams and then FSU. After that, we're talking mediocrity and deeply flawed teams.

That, in a nutshell, is why I think the B1G is better than the ACC.

Thats my reasoning. You don't have to agree with it but there it is.
 
I'm guessing clemson, Bama, USC, ou, Okie st, Washington, FSU, and then 3 of whisky, Michigan, tosu, and psu will be in the top 10.
So big might be down to 3 good teams.
 
TD_6082 said:
Top 25? I'm sorry, but once you get past the top 10, then we're no longer talking about contenders. At that point, we're talking wannabes.
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-Actually, unless you play in the National Title game or win the National Title, you are or never were a contender, period.

-Big Ten Football = ACC Baseball, the Pretender leagues that dont produce champions or real challengers. Win some hardware or at least make the Title game and come back.
 
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-Actually, unless you play in the National Title game or win the National Title, you are or never were a contender, period.

-Big Ten Football = ACC Baseball, the Pretender leagues that dont produce champions or real challengers. Win some hardware or at least make the Title game and come back.
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-Michigan is a 67 year pretender in the last 68 years.
 
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-Besides the Fact the Pac-12 goes deeper in the NCAA World Series Tournament than the ACC every year, wins the National Title almost every other year, has more titles then the ACC using a 50 year metric, 10 year metric, or 5 year metric, and has 2 Teams ranked higher than any ACC team once again in the preseason polls, the ACC baseball conference = Big Ten Football. A conference with zero legit National Title Contenders. A Big Fat Zero. But hey, you can pump your chest for getting 10 bids into the tournament just so you can watch all 10 of them lose to Pac-12 teams in the playoffs.
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Over the holidays College Baseball News released their preseason top 40 for this year and their preseason All American teams. There were four PAC12 teams in the top 40. Hey, that's pretty good. There were also four ACC teams. In the top 12. And two more in the top 16. And two more, for a total of eight, in the top 40. I know which one of those is better, it's ammusing that you don't.

On their preseason All American teams there were a grand total of ZERO PAC12 players who were first team All American, but there were four ACC players who were first team. There was one PAC12 player who was second team All American. The ACC only had seven of them. There were two PAC12 players who were third team All American. The ACC had three of them. So that's a total of three PAC12 players on their All American teams and 14 ACC players.

The fact of the matter is that the ACC has far more good teams and far more good players than the PAC12 does. That you think that the PAC12 having one or two teams that are better than the ACC teams means that the PAC12 is a better league is completely ridiculous. No one but you thinks that way. Because you are obviously wrong.

The funny thing is that you post that Pitt fans don't understand college baseball, and then shortly there after you give some PAC12 history and say that you don't even have to include newcomers Utah and Colorado in your post. Which surely does make it seem like as if you don't know that Colorado hasn't played D1 baseball in three decades. And it's funny you mention Utah, because they don't help your point, they hurt it. I mean you realize that Utah was the PAC12 champion last year in a season that they finished three games UNDER .500, don't you? A team that stunk won the PAC12 championship. They went 7-18 in games against teams that weren't in the PAC12. Utah actually finished five spots BEHIND Pitt in the RPI last year, and yet they won the PAC12 championship. Not the PAC12 tournament, they didn't have one of them. They won the regular season championship of the conference, in a year that they were worse than Pitt.
 
TD_6082 said:
When it comes to overall body of work, I think Clemson is the best among any other ACC or B1G team. After that, I would have 4 Big 10 teams and then FSU. After that, we're talking mediocrity and deeply flawed teams.

That, in a nutshell, is why I think the B1G is better than the ACC.

Thats my reasoning. You don't have to agree with it but there it is.
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FSU just beat Florida and Michigan in back to back non conference games. Which Big 10 team has 2 nonconference wins as impressive as that?
 
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