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Pitt vs PSU - Night Game

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The Pirates play at home and their game starts at 1:05. I wonder if it will be the prime time game on ABC.
 
I am going to buy Pirates tickets that day too, just to thank the Hillbilly Prince! Money is the only thing he understand, do the same if you want him to keep being flexible with Pitt.
 
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Wow. Did Nutting move the game for TV or did he do it out of the goodness of his heart? Very surprising he'd move their big-time game vs the Marlins for one of the biggest college football games in HF history.

This has to mean 8PM ABC, right?
Yup. There’s actually a good chance this game gets chosen for College Gameday. Only other good games that day are USC-Stanford and UCLA-Oklahoma, along with Georgia-South Carolina. The all SEC game will probabaly get the SEC Network Gameday thing and we’ll be in the running for the big one. But if it’s on ABC, we have to be the favorite.

Boy will that be a fun game. Now I don’t have to wake up early to watch an 11 AM game in my time zone :)
 
Wait, thought some swore this could never be on the table?

I have said that the Pirates will do it once every 5 years or so. Since this game involves Penn State, it's a smart move for them because many PSU fans are local. Plus, they are going to sell out without needing fireworks, so having the game in the day makes financial sense.
 
Surprise surprise. The Pirates do in fact have some control over their schedule. Maybe I should bump an old post where some have said otherwise. ;-)


You have it exactly backwards. The Pirates (for the most part*) DO have control of their game times. We don't. That's why they always have the choice as to when to play. The Pirates CHOSE to change their game time to help out Pitt. Had the Pirates chosen not to change their game time then their game time wouldn't have changed, no matter what delusional Pitt fans wanted.

* - The "for the most part" is because theoretically if Fox had a national television window that Saturday and they scheduled a Pirate game as one of their games then the Pirates would play when they were told to, just like we play when the television networks tell us to. Fortunately for us, the Pirates aren't playing someone like the Cubs that weekend, they are playing the Marlins, and even fewer people care about the Marlins than the PIrates.
 
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I don't have it backwards. Others who say the Pirates have no control have it backwards.


You have it exactly backwards. The Pirates (for the most part*) DO have control of their game times. We don't. That's why they always have the choice as to when to play. The Pirates CHOSE to change their game time to help out Pitt. Had the Pirates chosen not to change their game time then their game time wouldn't have changed, no matter what delusional Pitt fans wanted.

* - The "for the most part" is because theoretically if Fox had a national television window that Saturday and they scheduled a Pirate game as one of their games then the Pirates would play when they were told to, just like we play when the television networks tell us to. Fortunately for us, the Pirates aren't playing someone like the Cubs that weekend, they are playing the Marlins, and even fewer people care about the Marlins than the PIrates.
 
About time we have a meaningful night game again. I believe the last night game to my memory with any importance was the FSU game in 13. There may have been one other one, but past few years been North Carolina or Marshal. I miss the night backyard brawl games the most so this will bring back that feelings.
 
About time we have a meaningful night game again. I believe the last night game to my memory with any importance was the FSU game in 13. There may have been one other one, but past few years been North Carolina or Marshal. I miss the night backyard brawl games the most so this will bring back that feelings.
FSU and ND both that season. Now that was a good schedule.
 
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A Panther and a Mountaineer work together to embarrass the Nits on national TV... sounds good to me.
Sets up as a potentially big day for anyone who wants to do it. If Gameday does show up, you could do Gameday in the morning, Pirates in the afternoon, and Pitt-Penn State at nite. Makes for a long day but fun if you have the stamina for all that. Sunday is a day of rest.
 
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A pure money grab by nutting.

Lots of fans will go see the bucs... then tailgate until gametime.

If the Pitt game was at noon....no one is going to PNC Sat night.

This jagov has not changed his stripes and doesn't deserve any props from us.
 
Yup. There’s actually a good chance this game gets chosen for College Gameday. Only other good games that day are USC-Stanford and UCLA-Oklahoma, along with Georgia-South Carolina. The all SEC game will probabaly get the SEC Network Gameday thing and we’ll be in the running for the big one. But if it’s on ABC, we have to be the favorite.

Boy will that be a fun game. Now I don’t have to wake up early to watch an 11 AM game in my time zone :)
You also forgot Clemson vs Texas A&M which should be two too 25 teams. To be honest I highly doubt Pitt Penn state game is gameday. The other games feature several top 25 matchups.

I am guessing this game is a 7pm ESPN game.
 
Surprise surprise. The Pirates do in fact have some control over their schedule. Maybe I should bump an old post where some have said otherwise. ;-)

Good thing for Pitt that the Succos needed some positive PR.

they've always had control of their start times unless it was a national broadcast.
 
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You also forgot Clemson vs Texas A&M which should be two too 25 teams. To be honest I highly doubt Pitt Penn state game is gameday. The other games feature several top 25 matchups.

I am guessing this game is a 7pm ESPN game.
Good call, didn’t see Clemson-A&M when I was looking at the schedule.

Someone on the pay board who had prior knowledge of this said it’s going to be 8pm ABC, FWIW. We’ll see. It’s progress, though.
 
2016 was family friendly. Last year at state college it was a drunken orgy in the lots. 2018 seems like a time to hide the women and children
 
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2016 was family friendly. Last year at state college it was a drunken orgy in the lots. 2018 seems like a time to hide the women and children
And then 2019 will be the all-out war, just in time for everyone to say, “thank goodness the series is over.”

Then we’ll start the same cycle over in 15 years.
 
A pure money grab by nutting.

Lots of fans will go see the bucs... then tailgate until gametime.

If the Pitt game was at noon....no one is going to PNC Sat night.

This jagov has not changed his stripes and doesn't deserve any props from us.

Disagree....if the team is good PNC is Amazing on a Saturday night. This will cost a few fans which is fine. It’s actually a decent thing for them to do
 
Good call, didn’t see Clemson-A&M when I was looking at the schedule.

Someone on the pay board who had prior knowledge of this said it’s going to be 8pm ABC, FWIW. We’ll see. It’s progress, though.
ESPN typically puts its premier SEC home night game at 7 p.m. on either ESPN regular or ESPN2. I'd definitely say 8 p.m. on ABC is a good possibility for PSU/Pitt.
 
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ESPN typically puts its premier SEC home night game at 7 p.m. on either ESPN regular or ESPN2. I'd definitely say 8 p.m. on ABC is a good possibility for PSU/Pitt.
Few west of the Mississippi is interested in watching a Pitt PSU game. i can't see any chance at ABC scheduling it that night. It's a possible for ESPN or ESPN2 for that night.
 
2016 was family friendly. Last year at state college it was a drunken orgy in the lots. 2018 seems like a time to hide the women and children

2016 was fairly civil. State fans trashed our lot post game though. Looked like Kenny Chesney.
 
If we had time to pull off an upset or something, I could see GameDay coming.
But Chip Kelly v. Oklahoma, Jimbo Fischer leaving FSU only to face Dabo and Clemson right away, and both those being elite college environments, would be hard to pass up.
One thing that might be working in our favor though is whether Gameday thinks it might be coming to those places again later in the season. Then I could see the argument for Pitt just as a way of breaking it up and diversifying the locations. Not like they go to a ton of Northeast games.
 
You have it exactly backwards. The Pirates (for the most part*) DO have control of their game times. We don't. That's why they always have the choice as to when to play. The Pirates CHOSE to change their game time to help out Pitt. Had the Pirates chosen not to change their game time then their game time wouldn't have changed, no matter what delusional Pitt fans wanted.

* - The "for the most part" is because theoretically if Fox had a national television window that Saturday and they scheduled a Pirate game as one of their games then the Pirates would play when they were told to, just like we play when the television networks tell us to. Fortunately for us, the Pirates aren't playing someone like the Cubs that weekend, they are playing the Marlins, and even fewer people care about the Marlins than the PIrates.

Well another thing, there is more of a chance that people would go to the early Pirates game then tailgate and Pitt/PSU then tailgate early go to the football game, then stick around for a few hours to go to a baseball game. So in many ways, Bobby Nutts evaluated what would be best for his situation.
 
ESPN typically puts its premier SEC home night game at 7 p.m. on either ESPN regular or ESPN2. I'd definitely say 8 p.m. on ABC is a good possibility for PSU/Pitt.
Few west of the Mississippi is interested in watching a Pitt PSU game. i can't see any chance at ABC scheduling it that night. It's a possible for ESPN or ESPN2 for that night.

Almost guaranteed to be 8PM ABC.

Clemson/A&M is part of the SEC package which cant play on ABC. That'll either be 3:30 CBS or ESPN primetime.

FOX does 2 games per day so it will have at least one of UCLA/OU, USC/Stanford. It might have both. Even if it doesn't, the other one is ABC 3:30.

I don't see a way that this game couldn't be 8PM ABC. Though College Gameday would have to be going to College Station
 
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Herbsreit is always catching the corporate jet to hook up with Fowler after Gameday. Used to be that Gameday was at the venue of the big game that night. Then they started having events in North Dakota and such places.
 
Herbsreit is always catching the corporate jet to hook up with Fowler after Gameday. Used to be that Gameday was at the venue of the big game that night. Then they started having events in North Dakota and such places.

I am sure some season ticket holders who aren't local and drive 4 hours or more will complain because they will need to book a a hotel room and can't make the game just a day trip. Some will always complain.
 
Almost guaranteed to be 8PM ABC.

Clemson/A&M is part of the SEC package which cant play on ABC. That'll either be 3:30 CBS or ESPN primetime.

FOX does 2 games per day so it will have at least one of UCLA/OU, USC/Stanford. It might have both. Even if it doesn't, the other one is ABC 3:30.

I don't see a way that this game couldn't be 8PM ABC. Though College Gameday would have to be going to College Station
Good breakdown. I would expect the lineup to look the same way as you mentioned. FOX could probably do a pretty sweet doubleheader with them having rights to the PAC 12 and Big 12 home games.
 
Nice arrangement. I have tickets for the Friday night Pirates' game . . Now, maybe I'll skip Friday and go to the Pitt Hall of fame event (???) if that is the night it is being held. (Does anyone know?). Then go the Saturday Pirates game followed by Pitt v. SPU! Potentially a great weekend!
 
People have literally said that the Pirates can't control or change their game times.


That isn't what people say. People have bitched for years and years that Nutting COULD change the time of the Pirates' game to accommodate a night game for Pitt but that he refused to do so. Other people have said that Pitt should do whatever they want, the Pirates be damned, even though there are contracts about how such things work. But nobody has said that the Pirates have no control over their game times, with the limited exception of when Fox wants the Pirates game for a national television window.

If the Pirates truly had no control over their start times then why would anyone have ever blamed Nutting for Pitt having to play games at noon instead of at night? That would make literally no sense. They'd be arguing that the blame for a noon kickoff should go to a person who has no control over the game times. Do you really not get how crazy that would be?

People have bitched for years about the start times precisely because the Pirates are the ones that control game times. The reason that Pitt always got the noon games and the Pirates always got the night games is because that is exactly the way that the Pirates wanted it. They want it that way because they draw much bigger crowds on Saturday nights than they do on Saturday afternoons.

I really can't believe that someone could be on this board as long as you have and get something that has been discussed as often as this has so completely and utterly backwards.
 
Well another thing, there is more of a chance that people would go to the early Pirates game then tailgate and Pitt/PSU then tailgate early go to the football game, then stick around for a few hours to go to a baseball game. So in many ways, Bobby Nutts evaluated what would be best for his situation.


The Pirates would clearly draw a larger crown at night than they would for an afternoon game. And they get more television viewers on Saturday night than they do on Saturday afternoon. That is why in pretty much every instance that they do control their game times they play on Saturday nights rather than Saturday afternoons.
 
That isn't what people say. People have bitched for years and years that Nutting COULD change the time of the Pirates' game to accommodate a night game for Pitt but that he refused to do so. Other people have said that Pitt should do whatever they want, the Pirates be damned, even though there are contracts about how such things work. But nobody has said that the Pirates have no control over their game times, with the limited exception of when Fox wants the Pirates game for a national television window.

If the Pirates truly had no control over their start times then why would anyone have ever blamed Nutting for Pitt having to play games at noon instead of at night? That would make literally no sense. They'd be arguing that the blame for a noon kickoff should go to a person who has no control over the game times. Do you really not get how crazy that would be?

People have bitched for years about the start times precisely because the Pirates are the ones that control game times. The reason that Pitt always got the noon games and the Pirates always got the night games is because that is exactly the way that the Pirates wanted it. They want it that way because they draw much bigger crowds on Saturday nights than they do on Saturday afternoons.

I really can't believe that someone could be on this board as long as you have and get something that has been discussed as often as this has so completely and utterly backwards.

Look, I agree with most of what you said. I and most others understand that the Pirates have control and influence over their game times. However, there have been 'some' posters in the past who have defended the Pirates by claiming that the Pirates have no influence once the schedule is set.
 
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