PSU and MD will be in the ACC in 7 years
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Sounded ridiculous when you mentioned PedU and MD, but evolved into crazy when you added Temple.
Well,
Most of us live in PA. Tell us why the state govt would be interested in where PSU plays its sports?
States are taking a closer look at revenue generated in state. It will impact subsidies given to the Universities that are state related. PITT, Temple, PSU, and Lincoln. If their athletic departments act independently and auditing shows that it does not go into the pot for the University. They are going to get a freeze for funding. PSU, PITT, Temple, and Lincoln are going to have standards set which will allow the state to dictate affiliations. Temple and PITT are not going to the Big 10. That leaves either ACC getting forced to pick up PSU and Temple or all 3 going independent.
I mean we never thought Hogan would turn heel on Macho Man either, but that happened, right?
So, their state governments are going to force them to move into a less profitable league?
Slow day on the BWI Board. A Nitter starting nonsense here to add to their 105 page thread on Pitt fans say the darndest things. Nitwits are loco.
At best, the state legislators might MIGHT force in-state major powers to play annual game(s) as part of funding the schools. That has happened in other states.
It would be nice if that happened in PA (Pitt vs PSU in football and MBB.
It would be nice if that happened in PA (Pitt vs PSU in football and MBB.
You are missing the point. It is more taxable revenue for the Commonwealth. Much more.....and it is wrapped up in the guise of “educational” benefit
pittdan77
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Temple is in the biggest (or second biggest - Houston?) TV market that doesn't have a P5 "home" team. (Yeah, I know, PSU says Philly is theirs.)
But PSU and MD aren't leaving the B1G.
None of this makes any sense whatsoever.
You’re a crackpot, that’s is never happening EVER!
You must have been eating magic mushrooms again.
Show us proof of this stupidity even being discussed
I mean, if say Penn State or Maryland would play at Heinz, FedEx or Lincoln Financial Field against WVU and it would be like road games for them. Everyone is a WVU fan in the MidAtlantic.
Explain how there is more taxable revenue? Do Pitt & psu pay taxes to the idiots in Hbg??
Are you serious? You really don’t understand this?
You don’t see how in state tax revenue is created with ticket sales, merchandise, parking, food, tv contracts, etc? These sports programs and the University should not be tax exempt while raising tuition. This is the point. Put more taxes on PITT, PSU, and Temple or have them generate taxable revenue. It’s one or the other.
Students should not have to pay for their tuition if we find means to tax people like you.
What difference does conference affiliation have to do with taxing the schools or the revenue stream?
I can see it now.
2027 new ACC Keystone Division
Pitt
PSU
Maryland
Temple
Duquesne
Slippery Rock
Morgan State
Robert Morris
Towson
2027 new ACC Keystone Division
Pitt
PSU
Maryland
Temple
Duquesne
Slippery Rock
Morgan State
Robert Morris
Towson
Tell me how the ACC is going to magically increase those revenues for Maryland and Penn State enough to offset the loss in conference revenue that would also be taxable? The gap was $24 million this year....adding Maryland. Penn State and Temple will not close that gap.
If you were going to make crap up about schools moving conferences for more revenue then that would be more plausible for politicians to push for Pitt and Temple to be part of the B1G.
Who said anything about the ACC increasing payouts to those schools? That has nothing to do with what we are talking about.
Leaving the big 10 to the acc would be one of the most idiotic moves for a school to make.
So how is the state going to make more tax revenue if Penn State loses $24 million in revenue switching conferences?
You don't know much about PA state politics. SPU is the most revered institution in PA and certainly among most legislators. It is the "Harvard of the Hills" to them. Those weekly gratis jaunts for legislators to Happy Valley during FB season are designed to showcase SPU to all those wannabe SPU alums & curry favor with all the legislators & constituents who have kids at SPU main (and its community college system). (SPU branch campuses are the main reason PA does not have a community college system vs. a collection of do it yourself local community colleges).
Few legislators will resist anything the SPU wants. After all they are compelled to echo the SPU line: "It is the "Flagship university" in PA" . . . whether true or not!
Penn State does whatever Penn State wants to do in PA. Who could wreak St. Joe's dream of being in the Big (Pre) ten (d)?
Few legislators will resist anything the SPU wants. After all they are compelled to echo the SPU line: "It is the "Flagship university" in PA" . . . whether true or not!
Penn State does whatever Penn State wants to do in PA. Who could wreak St. Joe's dream of being in the Big (Pre) ten (d)?
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anon_vmuicqnzlyp3u
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I would hope the ACC wouldn't want anything to do with you enablers. Quite frankly I think that the ACC wouldn't even talk to them
National Titles in the 2 Major Sports Since 2013.
ACC - 6
Big 10 - 1
ACC - 6
Big 10 - 1
Wouldn't that be a point in favor of not only the schools all being in separate conferences, but also never playing each other as well? The state of PA makes a lot more money on a day when Penn State is playing a home game against Akron and Pitt is playing a home game against UCF (just as an example) than they do when they are playing each other.
Let's compare all the items you mention and see. On ticket sales, two separate games certainly draw tens of thousands of more people, although at lower prices. Let be generous and say that's a small point in favor of playing each other. But then there's the rest of it. 130,000 - 140,000 people buy more merchandise than 70,000 or 108,000 do, so a point for not playing. Far more cars need to park when 130,000 - 140,000 people are attending events rather than 70,000 or 108,000, and both schools charge the same for parking no matter the opponent, so separate games bring in a lot more money there. Food, well, that's the same as parking. Two separate crowds that are far larger eat far more food than one crowd would. Again, advantage not playing. TV contracts is actually a wash, because neither team makes more or less money based on more or fewer home games or higher or lower quality of opponents.
Do you have any other things for us to consider? Because so far it seems pretty obvious that total revenue for two separate home games is clearly greater than the revenue for one game against each other would bring in.
I could see Maryland back in the ACC eventually like UConn back to Big East but never Penn State. Their fans and alums think the Big 10 is better than the NFL
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Agreed. Maryland will be back in Big Ten before we know it.
