Are you sure because he transferred? Also, he sucked too. He barely won the starting job for a bad Sun Belt team.
PSU may make the CFP without beating a ranked team
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Are you sure because he transferred? Also, he sucked too. He barely won the starting job for a bad Sun Belt team.
All OOC games for them were at neutral sites, until last year I believe they changed.
Which should be expected.
They bring in by far the best recruiting classes of any conference.
There’s kind of a correlation between elite talent and elite on field results.
People just try too hard to think it’s all a media/voter conspiracy.
Best recruits out of high school and they put the most players in the NFL out of college.
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I can see them being tied for 5th place most years.
They will certainly be 4th every year. 2 loses may be anywhere from 4th to tied for 6th.
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I can see them being tied for 5th place most years.
They will certainly be 4th every year. 2 loses may be anywhere from 4th to tied for 6th.
It wasn't that long ago Franklin had to back to back seasons with Big 10 records of 4-5. This year they certainly look to be better than that, but I'm not convinced he is a good enough to coach to just pencil in 10 wins. Sure you can pencil in 6, 7, maybe 8 wins -- but I'm not penciling in 10. The beauty of the sport is that nobody knows and they have to play the games.
Maybe but PSU doesnt have to beat them. They can lose to Ohio State and USC and then get off the bus 10 times.
Look at these 10 games PSU has to win to make it:
WVU
BGSU
Kent St
Illinois
UCLA
@ Wisky (the only possible loss)
Washington
Purdue
Minnesota
Maryland
So basically, lose to Ohio State and split USC/Wisky and you're in.
Yeah, four cupcakes and crap conference games. That will do wonders with season ticket sales. As if attendance was not bad enough.
If we win more, attendance will be fine. Maybe it doesn't help season ticket sales, but winning will help individual game ticket sales and people that actually bought tickets will show up.
Yeah, UCF and Cinci really move the attendance needle. So you're saying maybe a more traditional P4 school? There were throngs of people at Oklahoma State a few years ago.
You know what yinzers care about? Wins and playoff chases. 9-2 with an ACC championship appearance riding on the last game against Miami will drum up interest. No one will care that four of the nine wins were against Kent, Thiel, Mercyhurst and Duquesne.
Winning doesn't help individual ticket sales. No one says, hey, Pitt is 5-1, lets spend a few hundred on tickets, food, and parking to watch them play Cal instead of watching it on my couch. Pitt's attendance is fine. The problem is the stadium is far too big. If we were undefeated going into the Syr and BC home games, we would draw 5K more fans, maybe.
In any sport, it is season tickets that drive attendance. Baseball maybe not so much; for example Paul Skenes draws a pretty big walk up crowd.
So maybe you have a winning season and people think hey Pitt is on the upswing, maybe I'll grab some season tickets next year. Of course a little more marketing from the AD would help in that regard
Right. Which is why I say if Pitt is undefeated into November, we will only get 5K more for Syracuse and BC. If we make the CFP, we will still have a season ticket decline next year because WVU is off the schedule but would still have a reasonably good season ticket sale. But that's making the CFP. If we dont make the CFP, season ticket numbers wont be good. Pitt needs EXTREME winning or a marquee opponent to sell season tickets. 8-4 or 9-3 isnt going to do it
This. It’s season tickets and law firms and corporation that buy to give away, that drive ticket sales on a game to game basis. At least in professional sports. And Pitt, USC, Miami, etc. are more like a professional sport situation.
I know they don't stay the whole game, but I'd love to see the spillover student section on the lower level. They had them all in the upper deck end zone for Week 1 and they took up a good 40-45% of those seats. Get them all on the lower level in the end zone and visitor sideline. I know this would displace some season ticket holders but would make for a better presence and atmosphere.
Penn State rarely has more than 2 tough games. Their schedule this year holds to that pattern.
That's kind of the definition of a 12 team playoff. 10-2 or better will keep you where you need to be. I'm not sure what the complaint is. Most teams are in similar positions. ND has an even easier path.
Pitt's path is even easier. The only ranked team on the schedule just got destroyed and will probably be unranked, the conference is down and you get the WVU team at home. It's all there for the taking.
Bowl games, as Pitt fans know well, are subject to opt outs. It’s difficult to really say who was the better team when elite players choose to sit it out.
This site will give you the strength of schedule for whichever year you want to look at.
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This site will give you the strength of schedule for whichever year you want to look at.
NCAA College Football Strength of Schedule Rankings & Ratings
NCAA College Football Strength of Schedule Rankings & Ratings from TeamRankings.com, your source for NCAAF computer power rankings.
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I would like for Pitt to make the playoff without beating a ranked team.
Or heck, while beating one of them. Or two. Or five. Or ten.
Or heck, while beating one of them. Or two. Or five. Or ten.
Tate Rodemaker lost the QB1 job for a really bad Southern Miss team. You people wanting to put an FSU team in the playoffs without a D1 QB are comical. The committee got it right. FSU had the resume but it was really close vs a 1 loss Bama team. The fact that they went from one of the best QB's in college football to a guy who may not start for Duquesne is just too big of a drop. Its the most important position in all of team sports.
Looking at F+
Penn State has played one Top 40 team all year.
USC who comes in at 18.
So it’s been largely warm up games for them this year.
The back half of their schedule is pretty decent.
Wisky 22
Ohio State 1
Washington 28
Minnesota 39
Penn State has played one Top 40 team all year.
USC who comes in at 18.
So it’s been largely warm up games for them this year.
The back half of their schedule is pretty decent.
Wisky 22
Ohio State 1
Washington 28
Minnesota 39
Feel like this is pretty unfair to Alabama. They are playing north of Mason Dixon (at Wisconsin this year) and next year they play two power conference teams OOC: Wisconsin and Florida State. Not their fault those teams both declined since they scheduled them. In 2026, they have WVU, USF, and FSU. In 2027, WVU and at Ohio State (again north of Mason Dixon.) In 2028, Ohio State and Oklahoma State. In 2029, at Notre Dame (against north of mason) and Oklahoma State.
All of that on top of an SEC West schedule, which is often the best division statistically.
PSU does legitimately play weak schedules though, there I agree.
Washington is God awful. They lost 21 starters. They'd be one of the worst teams in the ACC.
That OSU game looks like it will have a lot riding on it ... winner of that will in all likelihood play Oregon for the Big 10 championship, right? That championship game would be for the auto playoff berth, and I'm sure whoever is the Big 10 champ this year will finish in the top 4 and get a playoff 1st round bye.
Right. Winner plays Oregon for a B10CG spot and then if you win that, you get a first round bye and an auto spot in either the Rose, Sugar, Fiesta, or Peach on Dec 31/Jan 1, which stupidly serve as quarterfinal venues.
I guess I am totally dismissing Indiana. Can they really run the table? I know they still play OSU. Could OSU lose to both PSU and IU and get left out of the playoffs with 3 losses?
