Q Henderson to Steelers
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Happy for Q, if he would have listened to the PITT coaching staff..
He'd have what? He was, I believe, the shortest WR at the combine, his production slipped on offense, most of it came on gimmick plays that his 40-time suggested he could never pull off in the league. He was always going to be scouted as a return specialist unless his production improved dramatically this year. The NFL doesn't take flyers on return specialists in the draft anymore.
Glad the young man is getting paid.
I tend to agree with your first paragraph, but is he 'getting paid'? Don't you have to make the practice squad, at least, first?
True, but I'm saying that it's not likely much would have changed in terms of his draft stock. This year he'd have had to shave a tenth of second from his 40, add 3" to his vert, run less sweeps, and catch significantly more passes across the middle. All of that and it still might not have seen him drafted due to his measurables.
Yeah - i don’t blame him for leaving, as i just don’t see him as ever being a viable receiver. He’s a poor man’s Trevon Austin, IMO. Best case, he sticks around 5 years and cashes some checks (not 1st round, Austin level checks, but he can do relatively well). Wish him luck even tho i wish he was still at Pitt.
Gained exactly nothing by leaving Pitt early. Barring an injury, Next year only could've helped his stock. Shame.
Production in the passing game would’ve changed his stock. That wasn’t possible last year, this year it’s likely to go way up for all involved.
As a life long fan of both the Steelers and the Panthers, I am happy to see Q stay in Pittsburgh. But I think it’s extremely important for him to light it up in the preseason games. It seems like the Steelers took on a lot of projects in this draft that are geared for the future, I don’t see room for Q on the roster unless he has an electric preseason.
There is very little room on NFL rosters for only kick return specialists. He's best chance of collecting any football related checks may be in Canada.
Yep. As a Steelers fan, I sure hope Henderson doesn't make the team. I'd be does there have been some serious injuries.
It's unfortunate that while he was at Pitt, Q never seemed to learn the art of running routes. There's a place in the NFL for small, fleet receivers; New England was successful using three of 'em: Wes Welker, Julian Edelman, and Danny Woodhead. And we can throw-in our old nemesis, Ryan Switzer, who's making a respectable living playing football.
As good as Q was at Pitt, he could've been - no, make that should've been - so much better, given his speed and elusiveness.
As good as Q was at Pitt, he could've been - no, make that should've been - so much better, given his speed and elusiveness.
We had no QB for most of the season... without looking at all of the stats, every receivers stats are down .. if KP is as we expect, the pass game should open up.. meaning he should have stayed.
I just don't think there's much of a difference b/w being a 6th/7th rounder next year and an UFA this year. Late round draft picks are just as likely to get cut if they don't have a good camp as UFAs, and as a UFA, you can pick the best team situation for your skill set.
Yes and no. If Henderson stayed at Pitt for 2018, maybe he would've worked on being a better receiver. (He certainly would get more game action while playing for Pitt than he's gonna get in the NFL.) As it is now, he'a a "one-trick pony" with practically no versatility.
As Pitt-Chains noted, this year's passing game should be better than last year's. And the short passing game (which would be good for Q) could be even more important in the offense if the O-line struggles.
I hope that he proves us to be wrong. Maybe having a baby - and wanting money - affected his decision? But if so, having that (free) college degree should've been even more important for him.
his stock is no higher than now, he's not a WR on any level so those skills (or lack thereof are irrelevant). He is a punt returner/kick returner, that's his resume and that is at it's highest now. Another year at pitt wasnt' going to help that, if anything, it would have hurt it..
college degree is irrelevant, if he wants it after a few years in the cfl, he can come back and complete it.
Do you really think that he'd come back to Pitt and pay his own way to a degree? And who's to say that with some hard work, that he couldn't be a decent receiver?
This isn't rocket science or quantum physics...it's freakin' football. We're not teaching budding Einsteins how to run crossing patterns.
I know Edelman was a QB in college, but Switzer and Welker we’re far more accomplished WRs in college. Both topped 1,000 yds.
if he couldn't be a wr up until now, why all of a sudden do you guys think he'd have become one in his last year? Guy wanted no parts of Watson's offense, cant say I blame him really. You really think our bone head OC would have all of a sudden used him in a role that would have developed these "hidden" WR skills? you really believe this?
Guy has a small chance to parlay his KR skills into some money and that chance is now. another year at pitt does nothing but hurts him.. as far as finishing his degree, maybe he goes online at Univ of Phoenix like larry fitz. it's not expensive..
A degree and a chance to put his name in the college record books, in the return game, along with a good season bumping him to a possible 6th or 7th rounder is worth more than a camp shot and a short career in the CFL. He could have had a better shot at the NFL career and another year wouldn't have hurt him for the CFL. Plus he could have gotten a degree for free which now he is going to have to pay 25k for. Pretty sure the NFL pays for the degree if you are drafted or make a team but not for UDFA.
Summarizing, I think that the bottom line is that he simply didn't want to go to college anymore...he got a taste of early fame when he became a consensus All American, and now he wants to reap the (presumed) financial rewards from that.
I'll repeat my earlier prediction: his skill set is better equipped for the Canadian League, and there's nothing wrong with making a living there.
One thing that needs adjusted is the NFL's grading system for guys coming out early. The info they are giving these guys is just flat out wrong most of the time. I read that Q henderson was given a 6th or 7th round grade from the NFL before going into the draft. Anyone with a brain knew he wasn't getting drafted so why is he being given info that says 6th or 7th. I understand that info is given before the combine and things change but it seems to me there are far to many guys being given grades where there aren't enough spots. For example they might give 60 guys a 3rd or 4th round grade and there are only 64 spots, many of which will go to seniors.
I think the real point to be made is that Q gained nothing by leaving a year early. He left Pitt without a degree and without any guarantee of a NFL paycheck. He had a draft party for himself and didn’t get drafted. That shows some level of delusion on his part. Bottom line is you don’t leave school early unless you’re a sure thing.
i think Watson played a bigger part in his decision than anything.. I agree with your statement on CFL, that's a cool way to spend your mid/late 20's, making 6k salary, travelling around America Jr AKA Canada. hell yes I'd sign up for that.
Maybe he’s just like me. I’ll take any excuse to throw a party...
But what he gained is the opportunity to get a paycheck a year earlier. At the same token, what did he really lose in leaving a year early? Admittedly, i don’t know the rookie pay structure. Do you get a signing bonus as a 6/7 round pick?
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If he wants to come back and get his degree there are plans set up for former players that will not hurt his bank account.
If I'm not mistaken, Hugh has taken advantage of the program or was going to.
There not going to treat him like a normal student.
Why do people think he wasn't a hard worker? I've seen him practice. Being lazy or unprepared never came across my mind with him.
Hope it works out for him. He was one of the most electric players that I've ever watched. I'm pissed he left early, as I think some all-time NCAA records were within his reach but thats purely my own selfish reason. He was not as good last season. I blame bad WR coaching. Hopefully he can turn his elusiveness into an asset for the Steelers. Its fun to watch him do his thing!
Discipline and attention to detail separates the winners from the losers especially if you're undersized at your position.
Smaller WRers have to rely on precision routes, speed and sure hands to make an NFL team.
If you Bing Small NFL WRers these guys come up so it's up to Q to focus on his new job and see what happens. Lots of upside potential!
I wonder if one reason that he left was friction with the coaches? He may be difficult to coach which will be a career ender in the NFL.
Antonio Brown Steelers 5'10 - I never considered him small but he comes up in the small WR searches. He plays big thats for sure!
Julian Edelman New England 5'10
Randall Cobb Packers 5'10
Steve Smith Ravens 5'9"
TY Hilton Colts 5'9"
+ the other guys you mentioned.
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CFL rookie minimum is 54k CAD or 46k US. NFL practice squad minimum is $8k per week during the season and every player at camp is paid at least 1.1k per day of camp.
For others asking, the only difference between a 7th round pick and UFA signing is a 50-60k signing bonus to the draft pick. UFAs signed by the team can get a bonus anywhere from a few hundred to a few thousand dollars. Teams can have unlimited UFA signings, but the total bonus they can give us capped.
He’d be able to come back and finish if he wanted to
Pretty sure that is only for guys who were drafted or actually make a NFL team, not for training camp invites.
It actually doesn't. They don't advertise it but I know of guy's who have went back and finish.
If they didn't have a program, they would have to be readmitted under the current standards.
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