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Pickett wasn't perfect tonight but the drops were awful. The two turnovers were the difference.

No he wasn’t perfect... not even that good.

This offense looks like they have been spending a little too much time practicing trick shots in a gym.
 
Yeah the wr had a bad bad game as did picket and the ol. Going to be tough to score this year, maybe the ol gels a bit and they get better if not probably won't win more than 4 or 5
 
Honesty the defense was great and Virginia's defense is very good. This was not a disaster. If you ask me aside for a few plays Pitt was the better team. We will be better as the season moves on. Glad football is back, and if we can mix in more run game it can be a special year still.
 
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Honesty the defense was great and Virginia's defense is very good. This was not a disaster. If you ask me aside for a few plays Pitt was the better team. We will be better as the season moves on. Glad football is back, and if we can mix in more run game it can be a special year still.
agree the OL should get better but this isn't going to be a special year. We could still win 7 maybe a very outside chance at 8 but that is the absolute tops. In the season prediction thread I had us at 6-6, with a outside shot at 7. I had VA as a loss and this game doesn't change my prediction as I expected the D to be pretty good and the OL and QB to be a concern all year.
 
If you're walking out of a game and you're saying "If it wasn't for those multiple drops, multiple bad interceptions and multiple missed receivers and multiple drive killing sacks" maybe you should not be calling 50-plus passing plays.

This was start # 16 for Pickett. Yes, he should be carrying a clipboard as a redshirt sophomore backup but after 16 starts, the word "potential" no longer applies. He can be decent like Stull and Tino were but that is now his ceiling. If he drops back 30 times ever again, we either have a horrible run blocking OL, in which case, the season is a total loss or we have morons drawing up the game plans, in which case, the season is a total loss.

The reason doesn't matter. If there is another game where we go in gunning like the NE Patriots, there is really no reason to waste anymore time on this team.
 
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If he drops back 30 times ever again, we either have a horrible run blocking OL, in which case, the season is a total loss or we have morons drawing up the game plans, in which case, the season is a total loss.
It was the first game under whipple, and last year we ran 3/4 of the time probably. A guy whose offenses are built around the passing game is probably gonna take the opportunity to catch the opponent off guard and come out throwing the ball all over the place in that scenario. Add to that, our running game looked incredibly subpar tonight.

Even with the horrendous drops tonight, any decent qb would’ve had a career game tonight (assuming the missed throws would’ve actually been caught.) I thought the game plan was a breath of fresh air after the pure garbage we saw the past two years. I didn’t the like the timing of some of the run plays or the formations they ran them out of, but Pitt could’ve easily scored 35+ tonight.

If Pickett could’ve actually hit wide open receivers tonight, we’re talking completions of 35+ yards almost every other drive and crowning Whipple a savior after 1 game. When did we ever see so many receivers that wide open last year? We may have had more receivers blow by defenders on their routes tonight than we did all last season combined.
 
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Good post Pittx9. Yeah we did have tons of guy open. Just need to clean up the execution. I hope we can do that. If this scheme would've worked, it would've been fun as the 2 TD drives were. I hope you are right.
 
The drops were tough. You have one on a big third-and-10 by the tight end and then another which was going to be a huge play ends up turning into an interception on the next play. Both were huge in term of the end result of the game, IMO. In general, the overall lack of accuracy and touch by Pickett were the biggest issue last night. Plays were there to be had and Pitt didn't make them.
 
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The drops by Mack and Tipton could have made this a different game.

Agree the drops stopped drives prevented big plays and cost us any chance at winning. VA receiver doubled teamed goes up out jumps our corners on an under thrown ball. Tipton wide open by a mile has a defender come back and try to make a play on the ball but doesn’t but he can’t come down with it. Just one example but there were enough drops to be a whole seasons worth. I’m not defending the QB play either the 2 interceptions killed us and overthrows and underthrows all night.
 
The drops by Mack and Tipton could have made this a different game.
Tipton’s was on a badly underthrown ball that was heavily contested by the best DB in the country. Mack had no excuse.

The first half drop by Griffin was really bad as well.
 
Honesty the defense was great and Virginia's defense is very good. This was not a disaster. If you ask me aside for a few plays Pitt was the better team. We will be better as the season moves on. Glad football is back, and if we can mix in more run game it can be a special year still.
The D was far from great in the second half. Never laid a finger on Perkins after 3 first half sacks. Camp being out all second half, which nobody seems to be talking about, had a huge impact on the front 7.

No question the offense was a much bigger issue though. Pathetic at best.
 
Tipton’s was on a badly underthrown ball that was heavily contested by the best DB in the country. Mack had no excuse.

The first half drop by Griffin was really bad as well.
True on Tipton, but it was still a 50/50 ball that good receivers find a way to come down with.
 
True on Tipton, but it was still a 50/50 ball that good receivers find a way to come down with.
It really wasn’t. It was too underthrown to make it a 50/50. He could have caught it in the sense that he got his hands on it, but it was a very high degree of difficulty with Bryce Hall’s hands and body in the way. If Pickett throws that ball out there where it needs to be it’s an easy TD against blown coverage. Unfortunately the guy just can’t make the necessary throws.

That really wasn’t the “drop” everyone on the board is making it out to be. Now, Mack and Griffin on the other hand........

Mack has no excuse. That was really bad, no legit P5 receiver should let that happen.
 
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It really wasn’t. It was too underthrown to make it a 50/50. He could have caught it in the sense that he got his hands on it, but it was a very high degree of difficulty with Bryce Hall’s hands and body in the way. If Pickett throws that ball out there where it needs to be it’s an easy TD against blown coverage. Unfortunately the guy just can’t make the necessary throws.

That really wasn’t the “drop” everyone on the board is making it out to be.

It was very clearly a really, really, really poorly thrown pass where the defender got his had on the ball, this making it a hard pass for Tipton to get.

It also was very clearly a really, really, really, easy pass to make -one where any Pitt lineman could have gotten the ball to Tipton before the defender recovered... and yet...
 
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It was very clearly a really, really, really poorly thrown pass where the defender got his had on the ball, this making it a hard pass for Tipton to get.

It also was very clearly a really, really, really, easy pass to make -one where any Pitt lineman could have gotten the ball to Tipton before the defender recovered... and yet...
Pickett was being dragged down as he threw. Think that made any difference?
 
Pickett was being dragged down as he threw. Think that made any difference?

He was not being dragged down. He was rolling away from pressure and either waited to long before throwing it, or was late to see Tipton standing by himself.
 
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He was not being dragged down. He was rolling away from pressure and either waited to long before throwing it, or was late to see Tipton standing by himself.
He jumped forward into the air on making the throw. A defender had him near the ankles dragging him back.

Tipton was first to the spot. Tipton could have walled of the defender and either caught the ball or drew a PI. A UVA receiver made a similar more difficult catch while being defended by Hamlin.
 
Pickett was being dragged down as he threw. Think that made any difference?

Wow... What game/play were you watching?

Pickett got rid of the ball way before he was ever touched... He absolutely was no being dragging him down when he threw it. Goodness- please watch plays before you talk about them.

It was a just a really, bad, underthrown pass.
 
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Wow... What game/play were you watching?

Pickett got rid of the ball way before he was ever touched... He absolutely was no being dragging him down when he threw it. Goodness- please watch plays before you talk about them.

It was a just a really, bad, underthrown pass.
I was at the game. Watched reply on scoreboard. As I remember it, he was on the run forward, leaped as the release the ball and had his ankle grabbed as he released the ball. I am not saying I am certain that was what happened. I am saying that is how I remembered it from scoreboard replay.
 
I was at the game. Watched reply on scoreboard. As I remember it, he was on the run forward, leaped as the release the ball and had his ankle grabbed as he released the ball. I am not saying I am certain that was what happened. I am saying that is how I remembered it from scoreboard replay.

How far was the throw? I don't think Pickett has Elway/Bradshaw arm strength.
 
I was at the game. Watched reply on scoreboard. As I remember it, he was on the run forward, leaped as the release the ball and had his ankle grabbed as he released the ball. I am not saying I am certain that was what happened. I am saying that is how I remembered it from scoreboard replay.

He was late.

 
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I don't fully see the release of the ball on that clip but: OK - say the hit did not impact the throw

Watching the play, could Pickett have gotten the ball out earlier? Was he under pressure the entire time leading up to the throw? Under those circumstances, how much arm can we expect him to have?

Do you feel Tipton could have adjusted to the ball better? played the ball a little stronger? Cleverly drew an interference call?

Was it a 3 really poorly thrown pass? Was it a 3 really easy pass to complete?
 
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He needed to throw the ball when he first started scrambling or before. Tipton was 20 yards behind everyone. The short throw was only an issue because he gave the DB 2-3 seconds to recover. He probably takes a shot if he plants and throws, but he also has a TD. I'm not going to question his toughness because I think he's about as tough as they come at the QB position.

I just think he's not decisive and doesn't see the field. Was locked on the WR on the left until he felt pressure and started running. If he wants to throw left, he can't be staring there the entire time. Never saw Tipton until it was too late.
 
He needed to throw the ball when he first started scrambling or before. Tipton was 20 yards behind everyone. The short throw was only an issue because he gave the DB 2-3 seconds to recover. He probably takes a shot if he plants and throws, but he also has a TD. I'm not going to question his toughness because I think he's about as tough as they come at the QB position.

I just think he's not decisive and doesn't see the field. Was locked on the WR on the left until he felt pressure and started running. If he wants to throw left, he can't be staring there the entire time. Never saw Tipton until it was too late.
Agreement here on not decisive and doesn't see the field,stare downs, etc., don't know about the rest.
 
I will refrain from continued posting on his deficiencies, it's out of my system now. I'll hope for a better performance against Ohio.
 
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