Sandusky still tarnishing Penn State!!! More news that happened in 1988

[michnittlion]

Not for certain? Paterno didn't even dispute that McQueary told him. Holy shit you are a cult POS. Can't answer yes or no questions. Wow.

You aren't worth further conversation. You are really, really, a sad individual to be someone to leap onto message boards to try to defend these type of things. Wow, the level of depravity of you f*Vks never ceases to amaze me.

Yep, "not for certain." Paterno's testimony was at a distance of 10 years. McQueary has sort of changed his story a few times. Even in the courtroom, that one particular charge was one of the few where Sandusky was found not guilty.

I think it's likely, but given the 3 statements above, I will not use the word "certain." I want more certainty before branding somebody a pedophile enabler.

Now, as for the bolded:

So says the poster who, back in September, had not made a post on NCAABBS in 76 days --- yet was somehow responding within 1 minute (!!!) of a thread starting there about Penn State's on-campus integrity monitor departing the campus 2 years early.

You tell me --- who's the one who has the web-crawler searching for anything Penn State related and "leaping" onto message boards to say their word?

http://www.cusa.csnbbs.com/thread-749983.html

 

[michnittlion]

And a quick google look found this link. It is not a link to the story that I was thinking of where McQueary was quoted as being sickened by the appearance of Sandusky with children at PSU practices, but it is a report of a victim testifying to the grand jury that he had been brought to a Penn State practice by Sandusky FIVE YEARS AFTER McQueary reported the incident to Paterno. FIVE YEARS. This was not an irregular practice.

http://deadspin.com/5856777/a-guide...-and-to-penn-states-alleged-willful-ignorance

Google is your friend. Stop clicking on the 409 links and nut job conspiracy theorist articles you like to read and try out actual journalism, facts, and common sense. I hate wasting my time on these morons. Holy cow, you people make me absolutely sick.

Your claim: "He absolutely did, and it was stated by McQueary how he was sickened to see him bring children to football practices after the shower incident."

No offense, but that link doesn't prove your initial claim.

 

[Panther Parrothead]

That's why I said "University Park" --- I know about Behrend.

The University administrators will have to answer as regards Behrend, if/when their case goes to trial. I think that one is on C/S/S much more than Paterno.

So in other words, the administrators on Penn State's main campus didn't want that known molester around their kids, or around the kids of their families and friends in Happy Valley. But by allowing him to have camps in Northwestern Pa, they didn't give a damn about what ol' Jerry might do to the kids in the Erie area.

 

[michnittlion]

So in other words, the administrators on Penn State's main campus didn't want that known molester around their kids, or around the kids of their families and friends in Happy Valley. But by allowing him to have camps in Northwestern Pa, they didn't give a damn about what ol' Jerry might do to the kids in the Erie area.

I don't defend C/S/S on that one. They'll have to answer for that one in a courtroom soon.

Whether Paterno was actively involved in that decision to shuttle Jerry off to Northwestern PA? As of the moment, no proof of that.

 

[9nationalchampionships]

Sandusky is a punk. I hope he gets his due in prison

 

[CrazyPaco]

Your claim: "He absolutely did, and it was stated by McQueary how he was sickened to see him bring children to football practices after the shower incident."

No offense, but that link doesn't prove your initial claim.

So you want me to dig around the internet for an hour to find the article, out of the 1000s that exist about your warped institution, that describes McQueary's nausea at seeing Sandusky bring kids to Penn State practices, but the actual testimony of a Sandusky victim to a grand jury that he was brought to Penn State football practices doesn't corroberate that enough for you? You really want me to waste more of my time to prove McQueary statements weren't invented by my imagination because the sworn testimony of a victim to the exact same types of incidents isn't good enough? You believe Paterno might not have had the power to determine who was and wasn't at his practices, yet he could get the head of student affairs fired, a person that wasn't even supposed to be in his sphere of influence? My lord, look in the f*&cking mirror at yourself! Why does a sick f&vk like you deserve another minute of my time. That's a rhetorical question. You don't. I've wasted too much already.

 

[michnittlion]

So you want me to dig around the internet for an hour to find the article, out of the 1000s that exist about your warped institution, that describes McQueary nausea at seeing Sandusky bring kids to Penn State practices, but the actual testimony of a Sandusky victim to a grand jury that he was brought to Penn State football practices doesn't corroberate that enough for you? You want me to waste more of my time to prove McQueary statements weren't invented by my imagination because the sworn testimony a victim isn't good enough? You believe Paterno didn't have the power to determine who was at his practices, but he could get the head of student affairs fired, a person that wasn't even supposed to be in his sphere of influence? My lord, look in the f*&cking mirror at yourself! Why does a sick f&vk like you deserve another minute of my time. That's a rhetorical question. You don't. I've wasted too much already.

Fair enough. You're just confusing me.

At first, I'm not worthy of you wasting your time and providing a link.

Yet, 20 minutes later you provide me a link.

But, that link doesn't show what you said you were going to show.

So we're back to me not being worthy of your time. Fair enough.

 

[PittPoker]

Fair enough. You're just confusing me.

At first, I'm not worthy of you wasting your time and providing a link.

Yet, 20 minutes later you provide me a link.

But, that link doesn't show what you said you were going to show.

So we're back to me not being worthy of your time. Fair enough.

I think Paco has schooled you sir - not your finest hour.

 

[michnittlion]

I think Paco has schooled you sir - not your finest hour.

Fair enough, but even you must admit --- your opinion is the equivalent of Russian judge giving the Russian figure skaters a 6.0 at the Sochi Olympics.

 

[9nationalchampionships]

Why is it many ups fans believe in the sugar plum fairy ??

Maybe because if this ever came out in a real trial their whole existence would be a farce.

 

[Pitt-Chains]

Yeah, Sandusky violating children, and the children having to live with that the rest of their lives ---- that's a "gift."

A "gift" for you as a Pittsburgh Panthers football fan.

Good job keeping the proper perspective here.

Feel free to lecture me as to how I don't give a damn about the victims.

Just imagine if the coverup didn't last so long.
Nitwits will never get it.
Not just the Pittsburgh Panthers to put into perspective.

 

[Panther Parrothead]

I don't defend C/S/S on that one. They'll have to answer for that one in a courtroom soon.

Whether Paterno was actively involved in that decision to shuttle Jerry off to Northwestern PA? As of the moment, no proof of that.

Well, someone from Penn State's Administration made that decision. And whether or not Paterno himself made that decision, can there be any question that, at the very least, Paterno knew about that decision - and WHY that decision was made? After all, he knew that PSU football facilities were being used for Sandusky's camps, so he'd know when they stopped being used as well.

And were any of Paterno's players being used to assist at Sandusky's camps? It's not uncommon for players to get involved in such endeavors - NOT saying that there was nefarious activity involving the players - but saying that Paterno was aware of where his players were and whom they were assisting.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Call a spade a spade --- I've seen "recruitsreadtheseboards" posts' before, and his interests in the Sandusky case are nothing beyond it's net benefits for Pittsburgh Panthers football.

Not all (or even the majority) of Pittsburgh Panthers fans are like that.

You have no idea. My interests in this is actually borne out of amazement that you have football fans who put a coach and a football team before the kids and above jurisprudence. Because of that it is scorn and ridicule for Penn State and the Joebots. I think you people would sell out your first born to Sandusky or a person like that to win.

 

[Ditka1960]

Sandusky has been found guilty, and from what I've seen, the jury got it right.

Not a rather unique opinion I have there.

I know PSU fans want to forget what has been a nightmare, but seriously isn't it just incredible that this monster was a beloved part of the Penn State football program from 1962 when he arrived on campus as a player until 2010? That's nearly 50 years. It's one of the creepiest stories ever. Imagine how PSU players for all those years now feel knowing that sick, criminal pervert was in their locker room and abusing children, touching them during practice, all the while holding his exalted status as JoePa's right hand man? Gross. Pray for the victims. Nothing else really matters, period.

 

[wbrpanther]

Which Sandusky "affair" are you talking about? The one he was investigated for in 1998 that Paterno miraculously didn't know about despite the precedent of decades of local police informing him of every single minor player indiscretion...you know, the one which was soon thereafter followed by Jerry's surprisingly retirement and college coaching blackball? Or are you referring to the "affair" McQueary reported to Paterno 2001, yet Paterno did nothing about...that is other than continue to give Jerry unfettered access to Penn State football facilities, players, and practices...while he was with children. Or are you talking about the arrest of Sandusky in 2011 after which the long time assistants were retained who undoubtedly couldn't have known anything of the sort was going on, because apparently all the well known whispers that were circulating in Central PA for years don't penetrate the Lash building. Such standout citizens as good Sandusky friend Tom Bradley who was picked to lead your puke program to a bowl game that just had to go to because, after all, priorities are priorities; or perhaps Ron Vanderlinden and Larry Johnson that of course couldn't have known anything, especially since they were such important recruiters to retain for the next regime.

Yeah, they've got no guilt. After all, we know what crossing Paterno gets you...ask Vicky Triponey whom I'm sure you call bitch under your breath. It's convenient to believe that everyone is completely in the dark, because that is what cults do, circumvent logic and common sense to continue to worship their cult gods.

I'm sure you are proud of your university going out and hiring a coach in the midsts of a rape scandal following the worst sex abuse scandal in the history of sports. If that doesn't signify culture change, what does? And kudos for grabbing Florida State's president to lead your university, at least you got someone with plenty of experience excusing rogue programs. F*vking Bravo!

You're just another sick SOB piece of trash like you entire university and the rest of you sad cultist f*^vks.

Hey Paco, tell us how you really feel.

 

[vinniep33]

OK, good, you named names. Names of people you think "knew about Sandusky yet were kept on by Penn State to help the football program along." Bradley, Vanderlinden and Larry Johnson.

Now, since those three have let Penn State:

Bradley has since been hired by all of CBS Sports, WVU, and UCLA.

Vanderlinden has since been hired by Air Force.

Larry Johnson has since been hired by Ohio State University.

What do you think about CBS Sports, WVU, UCLA, Air Force, and Ohio State University? Were those 5 institutions all incorrect in hiring those men? Is it at least possible that your supposition that those three knew about Sandusky is incorrect?

Uh...no

 

[FanOfConstantSorrow]

I think every hire was gross and disgusting. Not surprised at all by OSU and WVU. Air Force, that is just flat out disappointing. College football is a very disturbing business.

I publicly stated many times that if Pitt hired Bradley, as was pushed by certain factions, that I would end 20+ years of support of Pitt football. A similar promise that I made good on with Miami in 2003, where I lived prior, when I learned of their unethical behavior. There is a line that should not be crossed, and covering up decades worth of the rape of children is WELL beyond that line. And I don't respect those that attempt mental gymnastics to stretch that line because of misplayed fealty to man or team.

That entire program should be considered radioactive. The hiring of Bradley would have been disastrous.
Sadly, history is filled with precedent. Look at the birth of the space program.

 

[PITTDC]

Look, Paterno knew about Sandusky's ways plain and simple. To think otherwise you are either a PSU apologist, in denial or an idiot. Why do you think Paterno basically forced Sandusky to retire years before he wanted to. The whole athletic department is a disgrace and the whole University leadership is as well. Lol that SMU got a lifetime ban for something 1/100th as awful and disgusting as the cover up of Jerry Sandusky and his evil ways.

I went to Penn State and I will say this unequivocally - If there WAS EVER a case for a lifetime ban in sports it should have been the Penn State University football program.

I too went to PSU and graduated. I severed all ties to the university and its athletic department.

 

[JHud986]

Paco, you are trying to reason with a cultist. That will never work. A cultist still believes that paterno is god.
They will never take off the glasses of worship to their almighty.
Just wait for the statue to reappear. They will have homages to the statue waiting for a vision of paterno to appear on their pancakes.

 

[ncyajleel]

That is what's so funny about this whole thing, if anything could be. These PSU fans saying Pitt fans would feel the same way. I love Pitt football and I hope they do well, but Pitt football isn't the top priority in my life, it's not my identity. So if that were to happen at Pitt, I would have done what you did. But that's the problem with these joebots. Their lives are so pathetic that they bought everything paterno sold them, mostly lies, and their entire existence is PSU football and because of that they look like idiots. That's what happens when you come to realize that everything you believed in and revolved your life around was a lie and that is why they are acting like THEY are the victims.

I too went to PSU and graduated. I severed all ties to the university and its athletic department.

 

[pittdan77]

Sandusky is a problem for all of PA and much more than the "pro-Pitt" side of it, although I have no idea how it's "helped" Pitt. It's affected every aspect of State government including the upcoming election (Franco has really gone off the rails) and promises to be a nightmare for years to come.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

I find it amazing that a Nitter comes on and acts somewhat rational and relents that he has to believe that "Sandusky probably was guilty", then with each post starts to go into the ridiculous and conspiratory paranoia that most Joebots cling to.

It is not rocket science, despite lawyers trying to make it as such.

Jerry liked little boys like PSU fan Jared likes little boys over foot long Subway subs.
Jerry was investigated for his attention to little boys in 1998.
Jerry mysteriously retired after 1998.
McQueary saw Jerry and Victim #2 in the showers one night doing things of "sexual nature" in 2002.
McQueary told Joe Paterno.
Joe Paterno told Curley and Schultz, that Monday because he did not want to ruin their weekend.
Sandusky meanwhile had at least 8 other victims over this next decade.

In a small town. Where there was at least a) a police investigation b) then a reported sighting by a PSU coach and c) lots of rumors...... No one did anything.

Why? Don't Penn State fans ever ask the question, F**K the Freeh Report and all of the other bullcrap stuff they are using as mask to try and cloud over this whole situation, but why, WHY, wouldn't Paterno stop this and turn him in? Why didn't McQueary physically intervene? Why didn't the Three Stooges go to the proper authorities. This was a crime, not an "internal matter" as so many like to say. But it happened within PSU, within the confines of the PSU football facilities as witnessed by a PSU football coach who reported it another football coach who just happened to be the Grand Effing Poobah, Jesus Christ himself, the Pope and the Don all wrapped in one person, Joe Paterno. And nothing happened. And more kids were victimized.

Why? Why didn't they act? It would have been so easy, oh sure some embarrassment for a period of time for Paterno and PSU, but nothing bad in terms of sanctions or lawsuits because they reported to the authorities. Why?

And.....almost 10 years later, when someone bravely and boldly (or did their job) step up and stop Sandusky from these actions and caused the State Police to finally launch an investigation that ended with a Grand Jury investigation and what looked like charges, the week before it all came down, Sandusky was a guest of Spanier in his box for JoePa's 409th win?

You can go into all the fine details and try and blur the lines, but the edges and lines are just too bold to try and blur and rough out. It was obvious to all what happened. The question that never has been answered is "why"? And that to me is or would be the most interesting aspect, but one that will likely never be answered. And I am betting the answer is something any PSU fan, alum, student etc....would never want to be found out.

 

[ncyajleel]

We need an applause button for this post! A question on every person's mind who is not a joebot, PoSU, or feels we are the real victims.

I find it amazing that a Nitter comes on and acts somewhat rational and relents that he has to believe that "Sandusky probably was guilty", then with each post starts to go into the ridiculous and conspiratory paranoia that most Joebots cling to.

It is not rocket science, despite lawyers trying to make it as such.

Jerry liked little boys like PSU fan Jared likes little boys over foot long Subway subs.
Jerry was investigated for his attention to little boys in 1998.
Jerry mysteriously retired after 1998.
McQueary saw Jerry and Victim #2 in the showers one night doing things of "sexual nature" in 2002.
McQueary told Joe Paterno.
Joe Paterno told Curley and Schultz, that Monday because he did not want to ruin their weekend.
Sandusky meanwhile had at least 8 other victims over this next decade.

In a small town. Where there was at least a) a police investigation b) then a reported sighting by a PSU coach and c) lots of rumors...... No one did anything.

Why? Don't Penn State fans ever ask the question, F**K the Freeh Report and all of the other bullcrap stuff they are using as mask to try and cloud over this whole situation, but why, WHY, wouldn't Paterno stop this and turn him in? Why didn't McQueary physically intervene? Why didn't the Three Stooges go to the proper authorities. This was a crime, not an "internal matter" as so many like to say. But it happened within PSU, within the confines of the PSU football facilities as witnessed by a PSU football coach who reported it another football coach who just happened to be the Grand Effing Poobah, Jesus Christ himself, the Pope and the Don all wrapped in one person, Joe Paterno. And nothing happened. And more kids were victimized.

Why? Why didn't they act? It would have been so easy, oh sure some embarrassment for a period of time for Paterno and PSU, but nothing bad in terms of sanctions or lawsuits because they reported to the authorities. Why?

And.....almost 10 years later, when someone bravely and boldly (or did their job) step up and stop Sandusky from these actions and caused the State Police to finally launch an investigation that ended with a Grand Jury investigation and what looked like charges, the week before it all came down, Sandusky was a guest of Spanier in his box for JoePa's 409th win?

You can go into all the fine details and try and blur the lines, but the edges and lines are just too bold to try and blur and rough out. It was obvious to all what happened. The question that never has been answered is "why"? And that to me is or would be the most interesting aspect, but one that will likely never be answered. And I am betting the answer is something any PSU fan, alum, student etc....would never want to be found out.

 

[TIGER-PAUL]

'Justice for Jerry' buttons available.
Seriously.

 

[melwood]

If there were people who were guilty in the Sandusky affair that were still associated with Penn State football --- then yes, I would no longer support Penn State football. Penn State football would be disgracing the victims and would be unworthy of support.

However, as I see it --- there are currently NO individuals (and HAVE BEEN no individuals, since November 2011) who were guilty in the Sandusky affair that are associated with Penn State football.

Am I wrong? If so, who are the individuals currently associated with Penn State football who were guilty in the Sandusky affair? Please be specific.

Spider Caldwell KNEW!!!

 

[michnittlion]

Spider Caldwell KNEW!!!

So did Jack Ham, Lou Prato and Ed DeChellis.

That's one way to increase the likelihood of a cover-up succeeding: INCREASE the number of people who know about things.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

New Info But whether It is a Step In the Right Direction Remains to be seen?

LINK:
In twist, Attorney General Kane gets pulled into Jerry Sandusky case

The judge presiding over former Penn State football defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky's latest appeal on Thursday ordered Attorney General Kathleen Kane to present, under seal, any evidence she has regarding leaks from the Sandusky grand jury.


Senior Judge John Cleland of McKean County, assigned to the case in Centre County, reacted to a statement Kane's office released a day earlier.


In it, she accused state Judge Barry Feudale, who supervised the Sandusky grand jury, of leaking sealed matters to two Philadelphia Inquirer reporters who were investigating his removal as a grand jury judge.


The Supreme Court removed Feudale at Kane's request after she took office in 2013. The leaks Kane referred to did not pertain directly to the Sandusky child sex abuse investigation.


But Kane has alleged in the past that Feudale may have been too cozy with some of her predecessor's prosecutors, including Frank Fina, who led the Sandusky investigation.


In an internal review of the Sandusky prosecution, conducted by a specially-appointed deputy, Kane was able to draw no conclusions about leaks from the Sandusky grand jury.


Sandusky's appellate attorney, Al Lindsay, separately has maintained that investigative information from the case was leaked to reporters to aid that investigation months before anything was formally unsealed.


In an apparent attempt to address that issue, Cleland issued a rare bench order forcing Kane to present to him within a week any information she has that Feudale or Sandusky's prosecutors “orchestrated, facilitated, cooperated in or arranged for disclosure of otherwise secret grand jury material.


“... She shall detail who was involved, what was disclosed, when and how it was disclosed” by Wednesday, Cleland wrote.


Attorney General spokesman Jeff Johnson said Kane and her staff will comply with Cleland's ruling, but had no further comment.


Lindsay said he was surprised by Cleland's order, and hailed it as a sign that the judge is taking his arguments “very seriously. ... I'm thrilled.”


The order was one highlight from a 30-minute legal argument on whether Lindsey should have subpoena power to aid his efforts to build a case against the 21012 conviction of Sandusky, the longtime defensive assistant to Penn State head football coach Joe Paterno.


Sandusky is serving a 30-year minimum prison term for abusing 10 boys who he was introduced to through his Second Mile youth charity.
LINK:
http://triblive.com/news/adminpage/9345547-74/sandusky-kane-grand

 

[Pittx9]

And.....almost 10 years later, when someone bravely and boldly (or did their job) step up and stop Sandusky from these actions and caused the State Police to finally launch an investigation that ended with a Grand Jury investigation and what looked like charges, the week before it all came down, Sandusky was a guest of Spanier in his box for JoePa's 409th win?

I don't believe that there are such things as coincidences that large. You're telling me after all these years it just becomes public RIGHT AFTER JoePa wins 409? Excellent post btw. IMO there's not a punishment large enough for Sandusky. Total waste of taxpayer's money to feed that animal in prison every day.

 

[wicker]

Get your popcorn ready. maybe the XL bucket. Ziegler is in on this now

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

One piece of Great News for Pennsylvania, Thank goodness, the voters rejected Judge Covey and the Franco Harris commercials promoting her for the Supreme Court Seat yesterday! One of the most Unqualified Judges in the Commonwealth as judged by her Peers and Bar Associations! She was the one the ruled on the NCAA-Penn State Case!

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

One piece of Great News for Pennsylvania, Thank goodness, the voters rejected Judge Covey and the Franco Harris commercials promoting her for the Supreme Court Seat yesterday! One of the most Unqualified Judges in the Commonwealth as judged by her Peers and Bar Associations! She was the one the ruled on the NCAA-Penn State Case!

Thank god. There is some hope for this state afterall.

 

[Pittx9]

One piece of Great News for Pennsylvania, Thank goodness, the voters rejected Judge Covey and the Franco Harris commercials promoting her for the Supreme Court Seat yesterday! One of the most Unqualified Judges in the Commonwealth as judged by her Peers and Bar Associations! She was the one the ruled on the NCAA-Penn State Case!

I'm a Steelers fan, so I still do look at Franco favorably because of his NFL days. However I voted specifically to try and keep Covey from winning. Mission accomplished!

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

I'm a Steelers fan, so I still do look at Franco favorably because of his NFL days. However I voted specifically to try and keep Covey from winning. Mission accomplished!

I found out as I got to being adult, almost in every case, I root for the logo, not the name on the back of the jersey. There are guys I genuinely like and admire, and guys I don't really like and hold my nose if they are wearing my team's jersey. But ultimately, again it is about the logo.

As for Franco, I do think he is a good guy at heart. His loyalty is somewhat admirable, but I do think he is way too beholden to that false narrative of Paterno and PSU football and the squeaky clean image that emanated from State College all of these years, that actually may have been real when he was there. But obviously, things changed up there, and it became "success, with or without honor, it doesn't matter, WE ARE, a football factory".

 

[Pittx9]

I found out as I got to being adult, almost in every case, I root for the logo, not the name on the back of the jersey. There are guys I genuinely like and admire, and guys I don't really like and hold my nose if they are wearing my team's jersey. But ultimately, again it is about the logo.

As for Franco, I do think he is a good guy at heart. His loyalty is somewhat admirable, but I do think he is way too beholden to that false narrative of Paterno and PSU football and the squeaky clean image that emanated from State College all of these years, that actually may have been real when he was there. But obviously, things changed up there, and it became "success, with or without honor, it doesn't matter, WE ARE, a football factory".

Couldn't have said it better, spot on. I root for the jersey, but Franco with the Immaculate Reception is a huge part of Steelers history. My mother who grew up back then can not stand him anymore because of his creepy Paterno cardboard cut-out carrying. So while I will applaud him if he's at a Steelers game because of what he did for the team, his whole Paterno mission is just odd. And while he was a Steeler, I'm not going to vote for who he endorses when I happen to think that person would just be awful for an already corrupt state.

 

[JHud986]

Captain do you think this has the opportunity to blow up again against ups?

 

[Panthertag]

Serious question: How can you hide this much rape?

 

[9nationalchampionships]

Pennsyltucky Cult

Serious question: How can you hide this much rape?

 

[Pittx9]

Serious question: How can you hide this much rape?

Having the governor involved makes just about anything illegal or shady possible.

 

[DruidTM]

Wh

Get your popcorn ready. maybe the XL bucket. Ziegler is in on this now

What's that jack wagon up to now?... He's always been one of the " jerry was framed " crew....

 

[Pittx9]

Wh

What's that jack wagon up to now?... He's always been one of the " jerry was framed " crew....

That delusional idiot interviewed Jerry in jail and Dottie at her home. Claims that the victims were forced to say what they did because of how they changed their minds. Doesn't even think that maybe victims of this kind of abuse have so much going through their head they don't know who to trust and don't think anybody will believe them. The lack of compassion as for the victims and second-guessing their testimonies is absolutely disgusting and everyone who attacks these poor kids are just as bad as that filthy, disgusting monster Sandusky himself.