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Steelers vs Titans

5-3 , they won a game. so that means next week will be a dud.

not falling for this shit anymore.

Back in the 90s, you could tell who would win a game, or at least have a good idea.
the refs werent such a factor. the actual players were.
 
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TRUTH IS Kenny had 4 bad misses, maybe we score 2 more TDs if he makes these routine throws that he missed when he had little or no pressure on him, throws that are routine for average NFL QBs, he's really not NFL level, at least until he improves by a lot, he's barely mediocre at this point.
 
TRUTH IS Kenny had 4 bad misses, maybe we score 2 more TDs if he makes these routine throws that he missed when he had little or no pressure on him, throws that are routine for average NFL QBs, he's really not NFL level, at least until he improves by a lot, he's barely mediocre at this point.

Missing those throws has little to do with NFL level and more to do with the mental aspect. Plus we don't know how much he was hurting from the injury. The fact that he keeps driving the team down the field to score so often in the 4th is about as clutch a thing you can want from an NFL QB. And a lot of guys can't do it. See Levis. He had three passes that should have been picks on that final drive. Teams will adjust to Levis and he will be an average QB.
 
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TRUTH IS Kenny had 4 bad misses, maybe we score 2 more TDs if he makes these routine throws that he missed when he had little or no pressure on him, throws that are routine for average NFL QBs, he's really not NFL level, at least until he improves by a lot, he's barely mediocre at this point.
we know kenny is not your qb.
 
TRUTH IS Kenny had 4 bad misses, maybe we score 2 more TDs if he makes these routine throws that he missed when he had little or no pressure on him, throws that are routine for average NFL QBs, he's really not NFL level, at least until he improves by a lot, he's barely mediocre at this point.
The worst miss was Pickens across the middle. The Austin pass was not well thrown but should have been caught. The Robinson pass should have been a TD. kenny was being sure not to risk a pick there.

Ok. Done with Kenny?

Pickens had a Easy TD but carelessly did not get a foot down. Harris dropped a swing pass.
Pickens pouted almost the entire game.

Canada had at least 5 terrible calls. Overthought goaline play.

Jones committed an inexcusable penalty on the extra point. Twelve men in the huddle also inexcusable. False start from the one, inexcusable.

We had 45 yards in penalties on their first drive,

After they can't block us (2 holding penalties) we rush 3 and let them covert 1st and 23 with one throw.

Prevent defense gives them 3 at end of the half.
Prevent defense gave them a decent shot at the end.

We are a poorly coached, undisciplined team on offense and defense.

Kenny has played games minus weapons. Johnson and Friemuth. They have no depth behind those guys.

Kenny had hurt his knee and now his ribs.

Kenny has Canada calling the plays.

Kenny is hardly the problem. On a mediocre, poorly coached team his record stands at 12-8. That record comes with little over a year under his belt.
 
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Pickett did not play well. Completing three passes on a comeback drive - in a game we should have scored at least 37 points - does not change that.

Neither one is a finished product, but all 32 teams would take Levis over Pickett right now if they had to choose.
 
Pickett wins the game while Levi’s throws a pick in the end

Seems right after all the slobbering over this guy. I knew he wasn’t repeating 4 TDS again
 
The worst miss was Pickens across the middle. The Austin pass was not well thrown but should have been caught. The Robinson pass should have been a TD. kenny was being sure not to risk a pick there.

Ok. Done with Kenny?

Pickens had a Easy TD but carelessly did not get a foot down. Harris dropped a swing pass.
Pickens pouted almost the entire game.

Canada had at least 5 terrible calls. Overthought goaline play.

Jones committed an inexcusable penalty on the extra point. Twelve men in the huddle also inexcusable.

We had 45 yards in penalties on their first drive,

After they can't block us (2 holding penalties) we rush 3 and let them covert 1st and 23 with one throw.

Prevent defense gives them 3 at end of the half.
Prevent defense gave them a decent shot at the end.

We are a poorly coached, undisciplined team on offense and defense.

Kenny has played games minus weapons. Johnson and Friemuth. They have no depth behind those guys.

Kenny had hurt his knee and now his ribs.

Kenny has Canada calling the plays.

Kenny is hardly the problem. On a mediocre, poorly coached team his record stand as 12-8.That record comes with little over a year under his belt.

Canada called a fine game last night. He was an asset, not a problem.

Pickett needs to figure this out real fast, because the ceiling right now is squeaking ugly wins out against non-playoff teams, save for a flukey aberration here or there. 0% chance we could keep up with the better teams in the league on a consistent basis playing like this.
 
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TRUTH IS Kenny had 4 bad misses, maybe we score 2 more TDs if he makes these routine throws that he missed when he had little or no pressure on him, throws that are routine for average NFL QBs, he's really not NFL level, at least until he improves by a lot, he's barely mediocre at this point.
Ignore that "easy toe tap for a td on a perfect pass to a lazy receiver" man behind the curtain..
 
Canada called a fine game last night. He was an asset, not a problem.

Pickett needs to figure this out real fast, because the ceiling right now is squeaking ugly wins out against non-playoff teams, save for a flukey aberration here or there. 0% chance we could keep up with the better teams in the league on a consistent basis playing like this.
Who said the Steelers are a playoff team to begin with?

The Browns and Ravens are clearly better not worse than the recent past and the Steelers have beaten both

This defense? Oh Vey…

It ain’t all Kenny … not even close

Canada calling a wildcat at the goal line was a mess
 
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Who said the Steelers are a playoff team to begin with?

The Browns and Ravens are clearly better not worse than the recent past and the Steelers have beaten both

This defense? Oh Vey…

It ain’t all Kenny … not even close

Canada calling a wildcat at the goal line was a mess

This defense, while far from dominant, is the reason why Comeback Kenny exists. If they don't hold the other team to a baseball number, there is no comeback because the game is over before the 4th quarter begins.
 
Two things can be true:

1) Kenny missed some easy, really important passes that would have had a significant outcome in the game (e.g., Pickens across the middle on a cross, the TD to Robinson which could have been better placed or to Heyward, the long pass to Austin - possibly excusable because it was a blitz; I liked the aggression there anyway); and

2) a ton of other players had similarly ugly mistakes (e.g., Pickens mental error of not getting both feet down, Darnell Washington on the 12 man penalty, tons of problems communicating on defense and in coverage including allowing key 3rd downs).

Right now this is still a sloppy team. They don't consistently gain yards and that's why Kenny's misses are magnified. Because when he misses an open pass and they have to punt, the defense is also bad and then we don't see the offense for 8 minutes. We run fewer plays and they're less productive so the misses are very, very costly. Levis gets sacked, Henry is stuffed, and then we bailed them out on 3rd down via terrible coverage or awful penalties. That happened all night. Kenny just has no margin for error but to his credit he did do enough to win.
 
bro , you still kill kenny.....
everyone has a reason, yours is big ken.......all kens fault.
 
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This defense, while far from dominant, is the reason why Comeback Kenny exists. If they don't hold the other team to a baseball number, there is no comeback because the game is over before the 4th quarter begins.

The defense got consistently shredded all night, especially on key downs. They gave up multiple 3rd downs to penalties on the Titans TD drive.

But they showed up late when it counted. They are just Kenny on the other side of the ball.
 
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That's a win they needed. Kenny with another comeback victory. Weird how he comes alive late in these games. Canada is bad, he's so predictable. I almost wonder if it's Tomlin not letting him open it up.

Levis played well. I think he needs to be careful he doesn't become a turnover machine. Steelers should have picked at least 3 of his passes. He's very loose with the ball.

Levis is a social media QB where he has all of these splash plays for the casual fans but takes a ton of sacks and throws a lot of near picks. And his TDs last week were almost all busted plays (Hopkins freaking tackled the DB on one of the TDs). I think real watchers of the game are right to be skeptical of him. BUT he does have some high level traits. So did Drew Lock....

Kenny is a T-Bill. You know what you're getting. It's not sexy and it better not be more than a part of your portfolio but it generally won't kill you. Little upside so people don't talk about it but everyone needs it.
 
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Levis is a social media QB where he has all of these splash plays for the casual fans but takes a ton of sacks and throws a lot of near picks. And his TDs last week were almost all busted plays (Hopkins freaking tackled the DB on one of the TDs). I think real watchers of the game are right to be skeptical of him. BUT he does have some high level traits. So did Drew Lock....

Kenny is a T-Bill. You know what you're getting. It's not sexy and it better not be more than a part of your portfolio but it generally won't kill you. Little upside so people don't talk about it but everyone needs it.

Levis is far from a finished product, but it was also his second start. It's more about potential with him; he *can*, theoretically, compete with the big boys with that skill set. Are the odds in his favor? No. But it's just about the malleability of the clay right now. There are a lot of impressive things he can do. Frankly, I was surprised. I thought he sucked at Kentucky, and I thought last week was mostly him just launching bombs against a bad defense. But he can make all the throws.
 
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America is not a bad place to be.



The Beatles transend.

 
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Levis is a social media QB where he has all of these splash plays for the casual fans but takes a ton of sacks and throws a lot of near picks. And his TDs last week were almost all busted plays (Hopkins freaking tackled the DB on one of the TDs). I think real watchers of the game are right to be skeptical of him. BUT he does have some high level traits. So did Drew Lock....

Kenny is a T-Bill. You know what you're getting. It's not sexy and it better not be more than a part of your portfolio but it generally won't kill you. Little upside so people don't talk about it but everyone needs it.

I was at the game last night so really tried to analyze the 2 QBs up close.

- Levis was better than I thought but my expectations were very low as I basically thought he sucked. He is a legit NFL starter I'm sorry to say. However, he had tons of open WRs. He made nice throws to guys who were open.

- Pickett missed a few throws, made a few throws. I am a Kenny homer but its becoming more and more apparent to what Kenny is. A solid NFL starter. Not Mahomes or Elway or Manning or Roethlisberger. But a solid starter. His WRs arent open very much. He needs better offensive talent around him.

The Steelers have a "good enough" QB. They need to find a DeAndre Hopkins for him to throw to. And everyone hates Canada but he doesn't have any offensive talent... like Pitt. Bring in some dudes and Kenny will be much better.

BTW, I'd estimate 3K, maybe 5K empty seats. They were scattered though so not sure how it came across on TV. The crowd was dead. Definitely not loud. Didnt see any fan fights unfortunately. Had my camera ready to record.
 
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I was at the game last night so really tried to analyze the 2 QBs up close.

- Levis was better than I thought but my expectations were very low as I basically thought he sucked. He is a legit NFL starter I'm sorry to say. However, he had tons of open WRs. He made nice throws to guys who were open.

- Pickett missed a few throws, made a few throws. I am a Kenny homer but its becoming more and more apparent to what Kenny is. A solid NFL starter. Not Mahomes or Elway or Manning or Roethlisberger. But a solid starter. His WRs arent open very much. He needs better offensive talent around him.

The Steelers have a "good enough" QB. They need to find a DeAndre Hopkins for him to throw to. And everyone hates Canada but he doesn't have any offensive talent... like Pitt. Bring in some dudes and Kenny will be much better.

BTW, I'd estimate 3K, maybe 5K empty seats. They were scattered though so not sure how it came across on TV. The crowd was dead. Definitely not loud. Didnt see any fan fights unfortunately. Had my camera ready to record.
Solid analysis as always SMF .
 
Well TribLive has an article up about why Brodrick Jones started. Chuks said something on the field last week that got him into hot water with Teflon Tom causing him to be benched. If this is true, welcome back to the bench Mr. Jones.
 
Steelers are like a bunch of infants.

but Broderick should be starting anyways, idk i cant critique OL ?
 
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we know kenny is not your qb.
I was happy when the Steelers drafted him, I thought he'd be good, here we are 20 games in and he's not cutting it, other younger QBs are outperforming him. myself I want the Steelers to have a top level QB no matter where he went to school, I'd rather have an all pro Nitter than a mediocre Panther, for me it's more important for the Steelers to succeed than for an individual Pitt guy to succeed. I root for the laundry, not the individuals in it. Kenny is winning games, but missing a lot of plays, has poor substandard stats, maybe he can reach the standard of 9-8 and get blown out in the wild card game because scoring TDs is too hard. Maybe he'll get better, but so far he is more Josh Rosen than Josh Allen.
 
A lot of you forget that Ben didn't break out until his forth season. His third was actually pretty ugly. QB's usually take some time to settle in when they don't have a ton of solid talent around them. Guy is far from where he needs to be but he's playing through some injuries and not throwing games away. This isn't even an offense that is designed to pass the ball that much and still lacks creativity.

I also don't get the "Canada called a good game last night," crowd. Nearly cost them the go-ahead TD with a goofy trick play and the offense still looks predictable at the wrong times.
 
I was happy when the Steelers drafted him, I thought he'd be good, here we are 20 games in and he's not cutting it, other younger QBs are outperforming him. myself I want the Steelers to have a top level QB no matter where he went to school, I'd rather have an all pro Nitter than a mediocre Panther, for me it's more important for the Steelers to succeed than for an individual Pitt guy to succeed. I root for the laundry, not the individuals in it. Kenny is winning games, but missing a lot of plays, has poor substandard stats, maybe he can reach the standard of 9-8 and get blown out in the wild card game because scoring TDs is too hard. Maybe he'll get better, but so far he is more Josh Rosen than Josh Allen.
yeah that is great in all sir, but what penn state qb was available when the Steelers selected number 20 in the year 2022 ?
 
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yeah that is great in all sir, but what penn state qb was available when the Steelers selected number 20 in the year 2022 ?

dude you say some funny stuff. you get my point , you have no point, again.
There doesn't have to be an actual player that fits the description, it's a way of making the point that I don't care at all what school a guy came from.
 
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